Original Posted By: Lauren Williams
I ordered 160 board ft' of clear douglas fur along with 1/6, birch,1/18and 1/4 marine grade okoume enough to almost build two Pietswas 2500.00 including shipping. ----- Original Message ----- ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Pietenpol-List: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: vistin(at)juno.com
I was wondering if someone could give me an idea of what it's going to costjust for the wood to build an Air Camper. Thanks.________________________________________________________________________________
I was wondering if someone could give me an idea of what it's going to costjust for the wood to build an Air Camper. Thanks.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By:> > Jay White
Thats listed as the GN-1 Aircamper in the 1998/99 catalog #02-04700 823.00In the 1999/2000 catalog GN-1 Aircamper 02-04700 is listed at 1,300.00Looks like Aircraft Spruce is trying to cash in on the new popularity of the AirCamper because most of the other wood kits have stayed the same in price.GordonClay Spurgeon wrote:> Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to Aircraft> Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They offer> a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the> details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,> hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.>> Clay>
Thats listed as the GN-1 Aircamper in the 1998/99 catalog #02-04700 823.00In the 1999/2000 catalog GN-1 Aircamper 02-04700 is listed at 1,300.00Looks like Aircraft Spruce is trying to cash in on the new popularity of the AirCamper because most of the other wood kits have stayed the same in price.GordonClay Spurgeon wrote:> Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to Aircraft> Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They offer> a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the> details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,> hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.>> Clay>
> > Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By:> > > Jay White
Like I said in my last message.Aircraft Spruce lists the kit for the GN-1Not for the Aircamper.Apples and Oranges again.I have heard nothing but the best about that Canada company that sells kits forthe Real Aircamper.I wonder why AS & S does not sell a wood kit for the aircamper.Is is because more people buying the 25.00 GN plans don't know what they arebuying?May be a better design amyway.GordonDoug Sheets wrote:> Jay & Clay:> I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the right stuff> for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between an> Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The capstrips> were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center section> spars were too short to use based on my 1933 Aircamper plans. Several pieces> didn't match so I ended up buying a project from a couple guys that went> thru the plans and ordered each piece. Also AS&S DOES NOT include any> plywood for $823; only the spruce pieces.> Doug>> >From: Clay Spurgeon > >Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion > >To: Pietenpol Discussion > >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:20:22 +0000> >> >Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to> >Aircraft> >Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They> >offer> >a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the> >details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,> >hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.> >> >Clay> >> >
Like I said in my last message.Aircraft Spruce lists the kit for the GN-1Not for the Aircamper.Apples and Oranges again.I have heard nothing but the best about that Canada company that sells kits forthe Real Aircamper.I wonder why AS & S does not sell a wood kit for the aircamper.Is is because more people buying the 25.00 GN plans don't know what they arebuying?May be a better design amyway.GordonDoug Sheets wrote:> Jay & Clay:> I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the right stuff> for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between an> Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The capstrips> were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center section> spars were too short to use based on my 1933 Aircamper plans. Several pieces> didn't match so I ended up buying a project from a couple guys that went> thru the plans and ordered each piece. Also AS&S DOES NOT include any> plywood for $823; only the spruce pieces.> Doug>> >From: Clay Spurgeon > >Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion > >To: Pietenpol Discussion > >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:20:22 +0000> >> >Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to> >Aircraft> >Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They> >offer> >a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the> >details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,> >hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.> >> >Clay> >> >
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By:> Jay White
Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to AircraftSpruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They offera spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the details on these through my server. They're probably plywood, hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details. Clay
Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to AircraftSpruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They offera spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the details on these through my server. They're probably plywood, hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details. Clay
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: Gordon Brimhall
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>Jay & Clay:>I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the right stuff>for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between an>Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The capstrips>were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center section>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>Jay & Clay:>I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the right stuff>for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between an>Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The capstrips>were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center section>>>>>________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By:> > Jay White
Jay & Clay:I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the right stuff for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between an Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The capstrips were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center section spars were too short to use based on my 1933 Aircamper plans. Several pieces didn't match so I ended up buying a project from a couple guys that went thru the plans and ordered each piece. Also AS&S DOES NOT include any plywood for $823; only the spruce pieces.Doug>From: Clay Spurgeon >Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:20:22 +0000>>Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to >Aircraft>Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They >offer>a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the>details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,>hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.>>Clay>>
Jay & Clay:I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the right stuff for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between an Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The capstrips were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center section spars were too short to use based on my 1933 Aircamper plans. Several pieces didn't match so I ended up buying a project from a couple guys that went thru the plans and ordered each piece. Also AS&S DOES NOT include any plywood for $823; only the spruce pieces.Doug>From: Clay Spurgeon >Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:20:22 +0000>>Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail in to >Aircraft>Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. They >offer>a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't get the>details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,>hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.>>Clay>>
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
THANK YOU DOUG..............how interesting, hopr you got money backJohn D________________________________________________________________________________
THANK YOU DOUG..............how interesting, hopr you got money backJohn D________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: steve(at)byu.edu
No, I didn't bother - Now I have wood for 1-1/4 Piets!!!>From: TXTdragger(at)aol.com>Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT)>>THANK YOU DOUG..............how interesting, hopr you got money back>>John D________________________________________________________________________________
No, I didn't bother - Now I have wood for 1-1/4 Piets!!!>From: TXTdragger(at)aol.com>Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion >To: Pietenpol Discussion >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT)>>THANK YOU DOUG..............how interesting, hopr you got money back>>John D________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: Petri David S CDR
the 2nd .25pirt will be light.......air'y, but might be hard to fly.......LOLJD________________________________________________________________________________
the 2nd .25pirt will be light.......air'y, but might be hard to fly.......LOLJD________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: Doug Sheets
Doug,When I contacted Aircraft Spruce they put me in contact with the "sprucedept" When I said what I was looking for , they put me in touch with agirl ( forget her name, but can get it) who was the expert on Piets. Shesaid she would send me a mat'l list to look over. It was what I wanted, andplaced the order.All components are build, except the finished wings( all ribs complete) andeverything seems to be on the money. Its a shame if you got a sales personwho didn't know.Did they send you a materials list first?I've always had good luck with Aircraft Spruce.walt-----Original Message-----
Doug,When I contacted Aircraft Spruce they put me in contact with the "sprucedept" When I said what I was looking for , they put me in touch with agirl ( forget her name, but can get it) who was the expert on Piets. Shesaid she would send me a mat'l list to look over. It was what I wanted, andplaced the order.All components are build, except the finished wings( all ribs complete) andeverything seems to be on the money. Its a shame if you got a sales personwho didn't know.Did they send you a materials list first?I've always had good luck with Aircraft Spruce.walt-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By:> LaurenMWilliams(at)webtv.net (Lauren Williams)
I bought a wood kit from Wicks for a Mitchell Wing many moons ago - the wood and the kit were excellent. They started as a pipe organ company and this would give them a great background in wood appreciation and selection. Got a reply to my e-mail from AS&S saying they will fax the parts listings for their Pietenpol kits to me. I'll let y'all know when I get it, and if its for a Peit or a GN-1. Cheers, Clay
I bought a wood kit from Wicks for a Mitchell Wing many moons ago - the wood and the kit were excellent. They started as a pipe organ company and this would give them a great background in wood appreciation and selection. Got a reply to my e-mail from AS&S saying they will fax the parts listings for their Pietenpol kits to me. I'll let y'all know when I get it, and if its for a Peit or a GN-1. Cheers, Clay
Pietenpol-List: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By: Gene Tomblin
I have had much better luck buying spruce from Wicks. I have receivedsome poor material from Aircraft spruce, also they only finish it on twosides. Wicks' spruce is all sanded to dimension on all four sides. http://www.wicks.com/aircraftAt one point, I ordered a seven lb. kit of glue and 195 ft. of 1/4 x 1/2cap strip from Aircraft Spruce. What I received was, 7 kits of glue andabout 20 ft. of cap strip, only half of which was usable due to slashgrain. That's when I started buying from Wicks. I have been very pleased with both their materials and their service. Lauren________________________________________________________________________________
I have had much better luck buying spruce from Wicks. I have receivedsome poor material from Aircraft spruce, also they only finish it on twosides. Wicks' spruce is all sanded to dimension on all four sides. http://www.wicks.com/aircraftAt one point, I ordered a seven lb. kit of glue and 195 ft. of 1/4 x 1/2cap strip from Aircraft Spruce. What I received was, 7 kits of glue andabout 20 ft. of cap strip, only half of which was usable due to slashgrain. That's when I started buying from Wicks. I have been very pleased with both their materials and their service. Lauren________________________________________________________________________________
>> > Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper
Original Posted By:>> > > Jay White
REPLICRAFT Aviation in NJ has great parts for the real Piet.John Bayer writes:>Like I said in my last message.>>Aircraft Spruce lists the kit for the GN-1>>Not for the Aircamper.>>Apples and Oranges again.>>I have heard nothing but the best about that Canada company that sells >kits for>the Real Aircamper.>>I wonder why AS & S does not sell a wood kit for the aircamper.>>Is is because more people buying the 25.00 GN plans don't know what >they are>buying?>May be a better design amyway.>>Gordon>>Doug Sheets wrote:>>> Jay & Clay:>> I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the >right stuff>> for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between >an>> Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The >capstrips>> were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center >section>> spars were too short to use based on my 1933 Aircamper plans. >Several pieces>> didn't match so I ended up buying a project from a couple guys that >went>> thru the plans and ordered each piece. Also AS&S DOES NOT include >any>> plywood for $823; only the spruce pieces.>> Doug>>>> >From: Clay Spurgeon >> >Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion >> >To: Pietenpol Discussion >> >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:20:22 +0000>> >>> >Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail >in to>> >Aircraft>> >Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. >They>> >offer>> >a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't >get the>> >details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,>> >hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.>> >>> >Clay>> >>> >
REPLICRAFT Aviation in NJ has great parts for the real Piet.John Bayer writes:>Like I said in my last message.>>Aircraft Spruce lists the kit for the GN-1>>Not for the Aircamper.>>Apples and Oranges again.>>I have heard nothing but the best about that Canada company that sells >kits for>the Real Aircamper.>>I wonder why AS & S does not sell a wood kit for the aircamper.>>Is is because more people buying the 25.00 GN plans don't know what >they are>buying?>May be a better design amyway.>>Gordon>>Doug Sheets wrote:>>> Jay & Clay:>> I bought the Piet wood kit from AS&S and it is NOWHERE near the >right stuff>> for the Aircamper. I think now that I know the difference between >an>> Aircamper and a GN1 that they may have the wood for a GN1. The >capstrips>> were 1/4 x 1/4 not 1/4 x 1/2 as shown in the plans and the center >section>> spars were too short to use based on my 1933 Aircamper plans. >Several pieces>> didn't match so I ended up buying a project from a couple guys that >went>> thru the plans and ordered each piece. Also AS&S DOES NOT include >any>> plywood for $823; only the spruce pieces.>> Doug>>>> >From: Clay Spurgeon >> >Reply-To: Pietenpol Discussion >> >To: Pietenpol Discussion >> >Subject: Re: The Cost of Spruce for an Air Camper>> >Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:20:22 +0000>> >>> >Jay - If you're looking to go "aircraft grade", I have an e-mail >in to>> >Aircraft>> >Spruce and Specialty for a breakout on their Pietenpol wood kits. >They>> >offer>> >a spruce kit for $800 and three other Pietenpol kits, but I can't >get the>> >details on these through my server. They're probably plywood,>> >hardware and metal kits. Give 'em a call if you want the details.>> >>> >Clay>> >>> >