Original Posted By: DonanClara(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbing>>AirCampers,> First time out of the chute for me here.> I have a long fuse Piet on the gear here in beautiful Boulder,Colorado.> I am working on the three piece wing fittings at this time. I havethe>wood center piece constructed and am working on the metal fittings. Does>anyone know how they fit together? From studying the photos I cannot make>out how the fittings go together. The straps seem to be the same distance>apart.> Also, I am piecing together the tubing between the header tank and the>gascolator. Can I run tubing back past the passenger so that I can use the>shut off valve without having to attach an extension? I have purchased a>mini-valve fromm Aircraft Spruce and hope to use two of them.> I am using a Corvair.> Crosby>>________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbing
Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbing
Original Posted By: Rodger & Betty
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbingAirCampers, First time out of the chute for me here. I have a long fuse Piet on the gear here in beautiful Boulder, Colorado. I am working on the three piece wing fittings at this time. I have the wood center piece constructed and am working on the metal fittings. Does anyone know how they fit together? From studying the photos I cannot make out how the fittings go together. The straps seem to be the same distance apart. Also, I am piecing together the tubing between the header tank and the gascolator. Can I run tubing back past the passenger so that I can use the shut off valve without having to attach an extension? I have purchased a mini-valve fromm Aircraft Spruce and hope to use two of them. I am using a Corvair. Crosby________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 21:51:40 -0600
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbingAirCampers, First time out of the chute for me here. I have a long fuse Piet on the gear here in beautiful Boulder, Colorado. I am working on the three piece wing fittings at this time. I have the wood center piece constructed and am working on the metal fittings. Does anyone know how they fit together? From studying the photos I cannot make out how the fittings go together. The straps seem to be the same distance apart. Also, I am piecing together the tubing between the header tank and the gascolator. Can I run tubing back past the passenger so that I can use the shut off valve without having to attach an extension? I have purchased a mini-valve fromm Aircraft Spruce and hope to use two of them. I am using a Corvair. Crosby________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 21:51:40 -0600
Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbing
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Is there a reason you had rather have gas running past the passenger than anextention? Mine has an extension and works fine. Seems a little safer to me.Thanks, Larry----- Original Message -----
Is there a reason you had rather have gas running past the passenger than anextention? Mine has an extension and works fine. Seems a little safer to me.Thanks, Larry----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: pre cover insp
Original Posted By:> fishin [SMTP:fishin(at)wwa.com]
Hi Joe,The FAA no longer requires pre-cover inspections (since 1983). There is apretty good article on the FAA requirements in this month's Sport Aviation.Another good source of info on the legalities of custom built aircraft isthe EAA's book "Custom Built Sport Aircraft Handbook", available form EAAfor $14.95.You can contact EAA to find the closest Tech Counselor, or the local FAAFSDO can provide you with a list of DARs (Designated AviationRepresentatives) who are not FAA employees, but are designated by them toinspect aircraft. They will charge you between $300 and $400 to look atyour project, but it's a good idea to have somebody look at it who knowswhat to look for. I'm sure you're a careful builder, but everybody makesmistakes and it's much better to find the mistakes before cover than in theair. I talked to a DAR once who said he had never looked at a projectwithout finding at least one nut that hadn't been cotter-pinned or aturnbuckle that hadn't been safety wired. I know I've looked at my wingseveral times and realized that some of the fittings were bolted and torqueddown, but no cotter pins installed. It's easy to do. Good Luck, Jack> -----Original Message-----
Hi Joe,The FAA no longer requires pre-cover inspections (since 1983). There is apretty good article on the FAA requirements in this month's Sport Aviation.Another good source of info on the legalities of custom built aircraft isthe EAA's book "Custom Built Sport Aircraft Handbook", available form EAAfor $14.95.You can contact EAA to find the closest Tech Counselor, or the local FAAFSDO can provide you with a list of DARs (Designated AviationRepresentatives) who are not FAA employees, but are designated by them toinspect aircraft. They will charge you between $300 and $400 to look atyour project, but it's a good idea to have somebody look at it who knowswhat to look for. I'm sure you're a careful builder, but everybody makesmistakes and it's much better to find the mistakes before cover than in theair. I talked to a DAR once who said he had never looked at a projectwithout finding at least one nut that hadn't been cotter-pinned or aturnbuckle that hadn't been safety wired. I know I've looked at my wingseveral times and realized that some of the fittings were bolted and torqueddown, but no cotter pins installed. It's easy to do. Good Luck, Jack> -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood joysticks
Original Posted By:> Rodger & Betty
A lot of '20s biplanes had wooden sticks . . Wacos, Stearmans, etc. I'mnot sure they were "baseball bats" "axe handles" or anything else, but justturned oak sticks. I had a friend get killed when the wooden stick brokeoff in a Waco during aerobatics. That being aside, I would think twiceabout a wooden stick in a Piet simply because the control cables attach tothe stick itself, above the hinge point. If you are going by the oldplans, both the elevator AND the ailerons attach up high. Purely from anoverly cautious standpoint, that does not sound like a good idea. Inaddition, Waco/Stearman sticks are over 2" in diameter, a wooden stick assmall as a Piet wouldn't be all that strong.----------
A lot of '20s biplanes had wooden sticks . . Wacos, Stearmans, etc. I'mnot sure they were "baseball bats" "axe handles" or anything else, but justturned oak sticks. I had a friend get killed when the wooden stick brokeoff in a Waco during aerobatics. That being aside, I would think twiceabout a wooden stick in a Piet simply because the control cables attach tothe stick itself, above the hinge point. If you are going by the oldplans, both the elevator AND the ailerons attach up high. Purely from anoverly cautious standpoint, that does not sound like a good idea. Inaddition, Waco/Stearman sticks are over 2" in diameter, a wooden stick assmall as a Piet wouldn't be all that strong.----------
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: pre cover insp
Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: pre cover insp-Check onto the EAA website and you can find a list of advisors.Since you don't have one in your area you might have to pay foran inspection. Just before covering sounds like the place to doit. If you ever want someone else to review all that you'vedone, do it before you cover. It'll also give you additionalsupport in your log for that single FAA inspection at the end.Mike BellColumbia, SC>>>> Greg Yotz wrote:>>>>> (trying to rig and get ready for fabric)>>>>>> I hear talks of rigging and fabric selection and coveringsbut>>> can't recall any talk of pre-covering inspections. is thisbeing>>> done and by who or is the only inspection the one prior totest>>> flights...the reason for my question is that my chapter doesnot>>> have a tech advisor and I'm not that far away from thinking>>> coverings.>>>> regards>> JoeC>> Zion, Illinois>> ps--if you haven't guessed, this is my first project>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:16:25 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: pre cover insp-Check onto the EAA website and you can find a list of advisors.Since you don't have one in your area you might have to pay foran inspection. Just before covering sounds like the place to doit. If you ever want someone else to review all that you'vedone, do it before you cover. It'll also give you additionalsupport in your log for that single FAA inspection at the end.Mike BellColumbia, SC>>>> Greg Yotz wrote:>>>>> (trying to rig and get ready for fabric)>>>>>> I hear talks of rigging and fabric selection and coveringsbut>>> can't recall any talk of pre-covering inspections. is thisbeing>>> done and by who or is the only inspection the one prior totest>>> flights...the reason for my question is that my chapter doesnot>>> have a tech advisor and I'm not that far away from thinking>>> coverings.>>>> regards>> JoeC>> Zion, Illinois>> ps--if you haven't guessed, this is my first project>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 08:16:25 -0700 (MST)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: pre cover insp
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Three piece wing fittings and header tank plumbing
Original Posted By: AKROZBI(at)aol.com
Crosby,If you look closely at the three piece wing print, you will see that thewing-side fittings have an extra layer of ply under them to space them outto fit on the outside of the center section fittings. I'm doing that partnow and if I had it to do over again, I would have laid out the bare spars,and center spars, and located and drilled all fittings first. I'm nowtrying to fit and drill the wing spars with ribs in place, all the whilekeeping the wing straight with center section. Oh well.walt evans-----Original Message-----
Crosby,If you look closely at the three piece wing print, you will see that thewing-side fittings have an extra layer of ply under them to space them outto fit on the outside of the center section fittings. I'm doing that partnow and if I had it to do over again, I would have laid out the bare spars,and center spars, and located and drilled all fittings first. I'm nowtrying to fit and drill the wing spars with ribs in place, all the whilekeeping the wing straight with center section. Oh well.walt evans-----Original Message-----
> Pietenpol-List: Wood joysticks
Original Posted By: "Mike Bell"
> > > Ref. Wood joysticks> > I once saw a Stearman bipe with wood joysticks made from baseball bats> which had been turned down on the big end to fit into a socket on the> control system, looked great.> > Rodger> > ________________________________________________________________________________
> > > Ref. Wood joysticks> > I once saw a Stearman bipe with wood joysticks made from baseball bats> which had been turned down on the big end to fit into a socket on the> control system, looked great.> > Rodger> > ________________________________________________________________________________