Original Posted By: Kevin Southwick
<Hi Martin,< It may shock you to learn that there are a whole bunch of usfriendlyandprivate email<for these private conversations that don't include the "group" anddon't have<WarrenThanks Warren, that's my point exactly.Mike B (Piet N687 MB). FYI - 60 years since first solo. IFR, multiengine, sea/landHiMartin, It mayshock you to learn that there are a whole bunch of usfriendlypilots (41years flying here) building Piets who don't speak francais,andafter aweek or so do kinda wonder why you guys don't go to your privateemailfor these private conversations that don't include thegroup and don't haveanything to do withPiets.WarrenThanks Warren, that's my pointexactly.Mike B (Piet N687 MB). FYI - 60years sincefirst solo. IFR, multi engine, sea/land________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By:>> Jack Phillips (EUS)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Thanks>>>A big thanks to all that responded. Hear is my first update:>>I have obtained:> a. The Sportplane Builder> b. Firewall Forward> c. Sportplane Construction Techniques> d. Tony Bingelis on Engines>>Ordered from EAA but nor hear yet> e. Wood Aircraft Building Techniques>>will order>f. AC 43-13B Acceptable Methods, Aircraft Construction and Repair.>g: Mike Cuy's video if available.>>I very much appreciate the Douglas fir information and will look into it>more closely(can you say LUMBER YARD trip) there used to be tons of lumber>mills in northern CA and we generally have good quality wood hear so I may>get lucky. Once again thanks for all the advise.>>Cant weight until the plans arrive. Im like a kid in a candy store.>>Chris>>>----------
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Thanks>>>A big thanks to all that responded. Hear is my first update:>>I have obtained:> a. The Sportplane Builder> b. Firewall Forward> c. Sportplane Construction Techniques> d. Tony Bingelis on Engines>>Ordered from EAA but nor hear yet> e. Wood Aircraft Building Techniques>>will order>f. AC 43-13B Acceptable Methods, Aircraft Construction and Repair.>g: Mike Cuy's video if available.>>I very much appreciate the Douglas fir information and will look into it>more closely(can you say LUMBER YARD trip) there used to be tons of lumber>mills in northern CA and we generally have good quality wood hear so I may>get lucky. Once again thanks for all the advise.>>Cant weight until the plans arrive. Im like a kid in a candy store.>>Chris>>>----------
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Original Posted By:> Jack Phillips (EUS)
A big thanks to all that responded. Hear is my first update:I have obtained: a. The Sportplane Builder b. Firewall Forward c. Sportplane Construction Techniques d. Tony Bingelis on EnginesOrdered from EAA but nor hear yet e. Wood Aircraft Building Techniques will orderf. AC 43-13B Acceptable Methods, Aircraft Construction and Repair.g: Mike Cuy's video if available.I very much appreciate the Douglas fir information and will look into itmore closely(can you say LUMBER YARD trip) there used to be tons of lumbermills in northern CA and we generally have good quality wood hear so I mayget lucky. Once again thanks for all the advise. Cant weight until the plans arrive. Im like a kid in a candy store.Chris----------
A big thanks to all that responded. Hear is my first update:I have obtained: a. The Sportplane Builder b. Firewall Forward c. Sportplane Construction Techniques d. Tony Bingelis on EnginesOrdered from EAA but nor hear yet e. Wood Aircraft Building Techniques will orderf. AC 43-13B Acceptable Methods, Aircraft Construction and Repair.g: Mike Cuy's video if available.I very much appreciate the Douglas fir information and will look into itmore closely(can you say LUMBER YARD trip) there used to be tons of lumbermills in northern CA and we generally have good quality wood hear so I mayget lucky. Once again thanks for all the advise. Cant weight until the plans arrive. Im like a kid in a candy store.Chris----------
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Original Posted By: Chris and Carrie Tracy
Dont order 43-13b, get it for free here:http://www.moneypit.net/~pratt/ac43/Mike-----Original Message-----
Dont order 43-13b, get it for free here:http://www.moneypit.net/~pratt/ac43/Mike-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
Mike, Good steer! When I get to my faster internet connection tomorrow, I'm gonna do some downloading. I've lost my new 43.13 since my move, and this'll get me fixed-up again!Mucho Thanko!Gary________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 22:00:22 -0800
Mike, Good steer! When I get to my faster internet connection tomorrow, I'm gonna do some downloading. I've lost my new 43.13 since my move, and this'll get me fixed-up again!Mucho Thanko!Gary________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 22:00:22 -0800
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Original Posted By: Rodger & Betty
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ThanksCould someone send me the phone number of the wood supply company in Calgary? I need to order some more spruce and Aircraft Spruce is painfully slow. Thanks, Tom Travis________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 09:15:21 -0600
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ThanksCould someone send me the phone number of the wood supply company in Calgary? I need to order some more spruce and Aircraft Spruce is painfully slow. Thanks, Tom Travis________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 09:15:21 -0600
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Original Posted By: "Gary Meadows"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ThanksKen,Thanks for the phone number. Tom Travis________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ThanksKen,Thanks for the phone number. Tom Travis________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Gary Meadows"
"Jeffrey Wilcox" Thanks to each of you who sent me advice, offers of help, etc. In anyendeavor, it's nice to have friends who know the ropes.Now - when do I have to get involved with the FAA. I know enough to notcover anything without inspection, and to keep receipts, etc. But I've beenaway from homebuilts since 1980. What's the deal with using "NX" insteadof "Experimental"?If you're going to be in south Florida, give a shout.Craig Wilcox________________________________________________________________________________
"Jeffrey Wilcox" Thanks to each of you who sent me advice, offers of help, etc. In anyendeavor, it's nice to have friends who know the ropes.Now - when do I have to get involved with the FAA. I know enough to notcover anything without inspection, and to keep receipts, etc. But I've beenaway from homebuilts since 1980. What's the deal with using "NX" insteadof "Experimental"?If you're going to be in south Florida, give a shout.Craig Wilcox________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Kirk Huizenga
Jeffery, If you're building a design that's 30 years or more old, then you can dispense with the requirement for having to display the big"experimental" written on your airplane. You can replace it with an N number with an X immediately following the N. If you have a complete copy of the FAR's then it is in Part 45 - Identification and Registration Marking. I found it in Pt 45.22 and Pt 45.33. I'm using a copy of the Mechanics FARs from 1996, but I'm prety sure that's still right. A lot of the guys use the NX, it seems to indicate to me that the design is pretty well proven out, adn it looks a lot nicer too!Hope this helped, it sure helped me!Gary________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:59:13 -0500
Jeffery, If you're building a design that's 30 years or more old, then you can dispense with the requirement for having to display the big"experimental" written on your airplane. You can replace it with an N number with an X immediately following the N. If you have a complete copy of the FAR's then it is in Part 45 - Identification and Registration Marking. I found it in Pt 45.22 and Pt 45.33. I'm using a copy of the Mechanics FARs from 1996, but I'm prety sure that's still right. A lot of the guys use the NX, it seems to indicate to me that the design is pretty well proven out, adn it looks a lot nicer too!Hope this helped, it sure helped me!Gary________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 12:59:13 -0500
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Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
A hearty "Thank You" to Matt D. for going through the anguish of gettingthe list back in operation. I know he's had frustrations in the past that wouldhave stopped an ordinary mortal, but this last bout must have been especiallydraining. So....thanks for hanging in there for us. You are as important to thePiet fans as Grant was in the past.Also, a personal thank-you to Doug Bryant for the detailed procedure to build thecowling. It really helped. My first wing is ready for silver and I'll be covering the second next week. Allthat's left after that is to finish the cowl and paint the metalparts then get it inspected!! Had the "A" purring again this week.Larry________________________________________________________________________________
A hearty "Thank You" to Matt D. for going through the anguish of gettingthe list back in operation. I know he's had frustrations in the past that wouldhave stopped an ordinary mortal, but this last bout must have been especiallydraining. So....thanks for hanging in there for us. You are as important to thePiet fans as Grant was in the past.Also, a personal thank-you to Doug Bryant for the detailed procedure to build thecowling. It really helped. My first wing is ready for silver and I'll be covering the second next week. Allthat's left after that is to finish the cowl and paint the metalparts then get it inspected!! Had the "A" purring again this week.Larry________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: COZYPILOT(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ThanksThanks to all for the great info on ash. I guess now that it,s not awood that you want to substitute, So I'm off in search of a piece ofash. Ed G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ThanksThanks to all for the great info on ash. I guess now that it,s not awood that you want to substitute, So I'm off in search of a piece ofash. Ed G.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: ToySat(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ThanksIn a message dated 9/5/01 6:34:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, flyboy_120(at)webtv.net writes:> Thanks to all for the great info on ash. I guess now that it,s not a> wood that you want to substitute, So I'm off in search of a piece of> ash. Ed G.> > > Ed,If you can't find any at the lumber stores in your area, let me know and I will send you some. I have done that before. Doug Bryant Wichita Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: ThanksIn a message dated 9/5/01 6:34:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, flyboy_120(at)webtv.net writes:> Thanks to all for the great info on ash. I guess now that it,s not a> wood that you want to substitute, So I'm off in search of a piece of> ash. Ed G.> > > Ed,If you can't find any at the lumber stores in your area, let me know and I will send you some. I have done that before. Doug Bryant Wichita Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/04/01
Original Posted By: "Kip Gardner/OCEN/SCI/ODU"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/04/01Hi to All: Question; Did William's plane have one or two carbs, and, what is a good way to have adequet carb heat for a two carb set up? Thanks, Ryder________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/04/01
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/04/01Hi to All: Question; Did William's plane have one or two carbs, and, what is a good way to have adequet carb heat for a two carb set up? Thanks, Ryder________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 09/04/01
Original Posted By: "Morgan, Terry"
09/06/2001 09:46:31 AMRyder,Unless Wm. changed things since last Dec., he had a 1-carb setup, using aStromberg carb in a gravity-fed, updraft confguration. The carb was mountedon the manifold back by the firewall. His carb heat was simply a box builtaround the carb & connected to a heat muff on one of the exhaust manifolds.There was a 'flip-flop' door built onto the box that fed either hot or coldair into the box, depending on whether or not you had selected carb heat.My recollection is that it looked a lot like the device Bingelis showed inhis Sport plane builder book for routing hot air through a firewall & intothe cabin.Cheers!Kip GardnerLaboratory ManagerOld Dominion UniversityDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. Sciences, Rm. 4414600 Elkhorn Ave.Norfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Warning - I Brake For Red Lights"________________________________________________________________________________
09/06/2001 09:46:31 AMRyder,Unless Wm. changed things since last Dec., he had a 1-carb setup, using aStromberg carb in a gravity-fed, updraft confguration. The carb was mountedon the manifold back by the firewall. His carb heat was simply a box builtaround the carb & connected to a heat muff on one of the exhaust manifolds.There was a 'flip-flop' door built onto the box that fed either hot or coldair into the box, depending on whether or not you had selected carb heat.My recollection is that it looked a lot like the device Bingelis showed inhis Sport plane builder book for routing hot air through a firewall & intothe cabin.Cheers!Kip GardnerLaboratory ManagerOld Dominion UniversityDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. Sciences, Rm. 4414600 Elkhorn Ave.Norfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Warning - I Brake For Red Lights"________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Sterling"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ThanksThanks to everyone for helping with the Flitzer info. I even received a replyfrom Mr Williams himself. Thanks again!BillThanks to everyone for helping with the Flitzer info.I even received a reply fromMr Williams himself. Thanks again!Bill________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: ThanksThanks to everyone for helping with the Flitzer info. I even received a replyfrom Mr Williams himself. Thanks again!BillThanks to everyone for helping with the Flitzer info.I even received a reply fromMr Williams himself. Thanks again!Bill________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Thanks to you all for your Brodhead reports and videos. Much appreciated. I missed the event between N.W. Michigan and Lake Michigan weather and my wife's medical situation. --Jim Lagowski________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks to you all for your Brodhead reports and videos. Much appreciated. I missed the event between N.W. Michigan and Lake Michigan weather and my wife's medical situation. --Jim Lagowski________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piet issue at Wittman Field????
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sounds plausible. There may be some evidence on the fuselage of the steeringmech bottoming out. That would take a pretty hard hit to bend the struts.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Sounds plausible. There may be some evidence on the fuselage of the steeringmech bottoming out. That would take a pretty hard hit to bend the struts.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
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Re: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets-- still WIP here-- help?
Original Posted By: Lawrence Williams
RE: Pietenpol-List: nicely finished Piets-- still WIP here-- help?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I covered mine with fabric.Jack Phillips-----Original Message-----
I covered mine with fabric.Jack Phillips-----Original Message-----