Original Posted By: Chris A Tracy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Chris,,, for what it's worth,,, I waited till my seats were done and mycontrolswere in before I attached the side ply. Thought it was a lot easier doing itthat way.Carl-----Original Message-----
Chris,,, for what it's worth,,, I waited till my seats were done and mycontrolswere in before I attached the side ply. Thought it was a lot easier doing itthat way.Carl-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: "ws133b(at)uswest.net
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage>>Chris,>>I marked a center>reference line on my workbench and tried to keep the fuse center markingover>that line while I pulled the tail post together. >>Scott Dufreche.>This may help lining up the fuselage:Squaring up fuselage (Woodwork-fuselage)by Michael BrusilowWhen constructing the fuselage a useful tool is to run a centerline at theshop ceiling with moveable plumb bobs. Then it is an easy task to true upthe work at any station on the fuselage.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage>>Chris,>>I marked a center>reference line on my workbench and tried to keep the fuse center markingover>that line while I pulled the tail post together. >>Scott Dufreche.>This may help lining up the fuselage:Squaring up fuselage (Woodwork-fuselage)by Michael BrusilowWhen constructing the fuselage a useful tool is to run a centerline at theshop ceiling with moveable plumb bobs. Then it is an easy task to true upthe work at any station on the fuselage.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: "Michael Brusilow"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FuselageChris, After you pop the fuse side out of the jig, lay it on top of the plywood. Mark the location of the stringers on the ply with a pencil, this will give you a guide for the brass aircraft nails. (Remember to make a right and left side) Would have to go back to see what size nails I used, but I think they were 3/4 of an inch long. Nails are used all over to provide clamping pressure while the glue dries. I found that a pair of needle nose pliers works great for nailing, helps save the fingers while try to hit those little nails. When I joined my fuse I started at the front and make sure to square up the front half first. (will need lots of pipe clamps, etc.) After that dried then went back and pulled the tail post together. I marked a center reference line on my workbench and tried to keep the fuse center marking over that line while I pulled the tail post together. One thing you should think about before joining the fuse is join the tail post. When you join the two side, the tail post will have to have some degree of an angle cut to allow the sides to mate up for gluing. I think it would be much easier to do most of the cutting before you join the front of the fuse. Anyone out there got a good starting angle to use.Scott Dufreche.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FuselageChris, After you pop the fuse side out of the jig, lay it on top of the plywood. Mark the location of the stringers on the ply with a pencil, this will give you a guide for the brass aircraft nails. (Remember to make a right and left side) Would have to go back to see what size nails I used, but I think they were 3/4 of an inch long. Nails are used all over to provide clamping pressure while the glue dries. I found that a pair of needle nose pliers works great for nailing, helps save the fingers while try to hit those little nails. When I joined my fuse I started at the front and make sure to square up the front half first. (will need lots of pipe clamps, etc.) After that dried then went back and pulled the tail post together. I marked a center reference line on my workbench and tried to keep the fuse center marking over that line while I pulled the tail post together. One thing you should think about before joining the fuse is join the tail post. When you join the two side, the tail post will have to have some degree of an angle cut to allow the sides to mate up for gluing. I think it would be much easier to do most of the cutting before you join the front of the fuse. Anyone out there got a good starting angle to use.Scott Dufreche.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: Teal38(at)aol.com
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Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletter
Original Posted By: Gary Gower
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletterDon:I had essentially the same results as you. Additionally, I attempted to ordercopies of back issues, but that check was never cashed.Ted TuckermanDonanClara(at)aol.com wrote:>> In a message dated 07/04/2000 9:23:49 AM Central Daylight Time,> dickmarg(at)peganet.com writes:>> same?> >>> I paid the full dues through the end of the year...then for some reason Grant> 'schedule of dues' printed in the Newsletter indicated additional money was> required for the last two months of my already paid up membership. Rather> than argue what was a minor point I sent the additional few bucks. Then to> add insult to injury I was never sent the last two issues. I'd like to know> what caused him to take such a sudden turn. I don't buy the "busy with> remodeling" excuse. I'm sure there's a logical reason but he has never, to> my knowledge told anyone what it was. I'm not angry, just disappointed in a> guy I know to be a fine person. Anyone else with a similar experience ?> Don Hicks>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletterDon:I had essentially the same results as you. Additionally, I attempted to ordercopies of back issues, but that check was never cashed.Ted TuckermanDonanClara(at)aol.com wrote:>> In a message dated 07/04/2000 9:23:49 AM Central Daylight Time,> dickmarg(at)peganet.com writes:>> same?> >>> I paid the full dues through the end of the year...then for some reason Grant> 'schedule of dues' printed in the Newsletter indicated additional money was> required for the last two months of my already paid up membership. Rather> than argue what was a minor point I sent the additional few bucks. Then to> add insult to injury I was never sent the last two issues. I'd like to know> what caused him to take such a sudden turn. I don't buy the "busy with> remodeling" excuse. I'm sure there's a logical reason but he has never, to> my knowledge told anyone what it was. I'm not angry, just disappointed in a> guy I know to be a fine person. Anyone else with a similar experience ?> Don Hicks>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: "Ken & Lisa Rickards"
This weekend I laid up my first fuselage side and everything seemed quite straightforward. So far so good.I intend to leave off the ply sides to make it easier to fit the internals and am concerned about the uprights and braces just being end-glued to the longerons,(I'm using T88).I have run a length of 3/16" threaded rod through the longeron overhangs at the front and rear to keep everything together but am wondering if there are any other things I have to do to avoid an unpleasant surprise when I pop the fuse out of the jig.Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustralia________________________________________________________________________________
This weekend I laid up my first fuselage side and everything seemed quite straightforward. So far so good.I intend to leave off the ply sides to make it easier to fit the internals and am concerned about the uprights and braces just being end-glued to the longerons,(I'm using T88).I have run a length of 3/16" threaded rod through the longeron overhangs at the front and rear to keep everything together but am wondering if there are any other things I have to do to avoid an unpleasant surprise when I pop the fuse out of the jig.Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustralia________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
This weekend I laid up my first fuselage side and everything seemed quite straightforward. So far so good.I intend to leave off the ply sides to make it easier to fit the internals and am concerned about the uprights and braces just being end-glued to the longerons,(I'm using T88).I have run a length of 3/16" threaded rod through the longeron overhangs at the front and rear to keep everything together but am wondering if there are any other things I have to do to avoid an unpleasant surprise when I pop the fuse out of the jig.Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustralia________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:07:47 -0800
This weekend I laid up my first fuselage side and everything seemed quite straightforward. So far so good.I intend to leave off the ply sides to make it easier to fit the internals and am concerned about the uprights and braces just being end-glued to the longerons,(I'm using T88).I have run a length of 3/16" threaded rod through the longeron overhangs at the front and rear to keep everything together but am wondering if there are any other things I have to do to avoid an unpleasant surprise when I pop the fuse out of the jig.Thanks,Rod WoollerChidlowAustralia________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:07:47 -0800
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: lshutks(at)webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
Rod, I would think this through very carefully, as there is a terrificamount of tension on everything as you pull the sides into shape. Ithink that you may not be able to do it without having the plywoodsides on it. With the sides on, I did not find it difficult to get theinternals in.FWIW,-=Ian=-Almost ready for covering!________________________________________________________________________________
Rod, I would think this through very carefully, as there is a terrificamount of tension on everything as you pull the sides into shape. Ithink that you may not be able to do it without having the plywoodsides on it. With the sides on, I did not find it difficult to get theinternals in.FWIW,-=Ian=-Almost ready for covering!________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: "Brants"
I did the same as Del. No problem at all reaching in to install everything.In fact, I got so used to having access to the front of the cockpit, Iinstalled my baggage compartment with a slide out floor so even after theplane is assembled I can still reach everything in the forward part of thecockpit.JackRodI put my plywood on right away and had no problemgetting everything in. I think you are better offputting them on and draw the sides in with theminstalled. I did put the firewall on with just screwsto keep it square when fitting the fuse together, thentook it off to install rudder bars and pedals etc.Del________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:04:44 -0600
I did the same as Del. No problem at all reaching in to install everything.In fact, I got so used to having access to the front of the cockpit, Iinstalled my baggage compartment with a slide out floor so even after theplane is assembled I can still reach everything in the forward part of thecockpit.JackRodI put my plywood on right away and had no problemgetting everything in. I think you are better offputting them on and draw the sides in with theminstalled. I did put the firewall on with just screwsto keep it square when fitting the fuse together, thentook it off to install rudder bars and pedals etc.Del________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 19:04:44 -0600
Re:Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Original Posted By: catdesigns(at)juno.com
Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
Subject: Re:Pietenpol-List: Fuselage
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuselage Update
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Bill and all,Thanks for the kind words, it all helps! Bill, do you think I'm anal? I doalways make sure to dust before mixing epoxy or measuring a for criticalcut. Honestly, Wife Susan is very understanding of all the dust, noise andswearing rising up from the family room.JackDSMYuck!Just thought I'd throw that in there for contrast.Really, though, Jack - like everyone else said, you're doing VERY nice work.But your shop is a mess! In one of the photos, it looks like there's abinder under your workbench that is sticking out about 3/4"! That can'tactually be a real workshop. I should post a photo of my mess, so you cansee what the other end of the spectrum looks like. (can you tell I'mjealous?)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Bill and all,Thanks for the kind words, it all helps! Bill, do you think I'm anal? I doalways make sure to dust before mixing epoxy or measuring a for criticalcut. Honestly, Wife Susan is very understanding of all the dust, noise andswearing rising up from the family room.JackDSMYuck!Just thought I'd throw that in there for contrast.Really, though, Jack - like everyone else said, you're doing VERY nice work.But your shop is a mess! In one of the photos, it looks like there's abinder under your workbench that is sticking out about 3/4"! That can'tactually be a real workshop. I should post a photo of my mess, so you cansee what the other end of the spectrum looks like. (can you tell I'mjealous?)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________