Original Posted By: "Conoly"
Hello BertThe cost of Cub parts will probably bring you to your knees. The oldbladders are not hard to find, but the cost is unreal. Clevelands would comein at about the same price and they will be new.Butttttt!!!! you had better be very very very careful with brakes thatreally work good on a tail dragger, or own stock in a propeller shop.Till sun n funBarry Davis----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By: COZYPILOT(at)aol.com
Fellas:I'm covering my fuse now so I need to finish up my landing gear and wheel/brakes.Heres the question.I have a set of 8:00 x 4 cub wheels and tires. In order to put brakes on itI will have to get the brake parts (everything) for a Cub. I'm afraid itwill be expensive to use this combo, and I understand that that type of oldbrake system is not very good anyway.I also have a set of 7:00 x 6 tires in fair shape.My axles are 1 1/4" steel on split axles with bungee chords.Should I ....a) try to build up brakes with old CUB components.orb) spring for 6" wheel/brake assemblies and have all new stuffI plan on using one brake cylinder and a hand operated lever. Dont plan onhaving toe or heal brakes. Most flyng will be off of grass so only needbrakes for parking, runup, and panic purposes.Thanks, Bert________________________________________________________________________________
Fellas:I'm covering my fuse now so I need to finish up my landing gear and wheel/brakes.Heres the question.I have a set of 8:00 x 4 cub wheels and tires. In order to put brakes on itI will have to get the brake parts (everything) for a Cub. I'm afraid itwill be expensive to use this combo, and I understand that that type of oldbrake system is not very good anyway.I also have a set of 7:00 x 6 tires in fair shape.My axles are 1 1/4" steel on split axles with bungee chords.Should I ....a) try to build up brakes with old CUB components.orb) spring for 6" wheel/brake assemblies and have all new stuffI plan on using one brake cylinder and a hand operated lever. Dont plan onhaving toe or heal brakes. Most flyng will be off of grass so only needbrakes for parking, runup, and panic purposes.Thanks, Bert________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Original Posted By: John E Fay
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw sizeIn a message dated 10/25/00 4:49:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, artsfoto(at)yahoo.com writes:>I didn't have a band saw at all. I used a sabre saw and still prefer the portability.Doug Bryant Wichita, Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw sizeIn a message dated 10/25/00 4:49:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, artsfoto(at)yahoo.com writes:>I didn't have a band saw at all. I used a sabre saw and still prefer the portability.Doug Bryant Wichita, Ks________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By: del magsam
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheelsIn a message dated 10/25/00 5:49:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bconoly(at)surfsouth.com writes: Fellas: I'm covering my fuse now so I need to finish up my landing gear and wheel/ brakes. Heres the question. I have a set of 8:00 x 4 cub wheels and tires. In order to put brakes on it I will have to get the brake parts (everything) for a Cub. I'm afraid it will be expensive to use this combo, and I understand that that type of old brake system is not very good anyway. I also have a set of 7:00 x 6 tires in fair shape. My axles are 1 1/4" steel on split axles with bungee chords. Should I .... a) try to build up brakes with old CUB components. or b) spring for 6" wheel/brake assemblies and have all new stuff I plan on using one brake cylinder and a hand operated lever. Dont plan on having toe or heal brakes. Most flyng will be off of grass so only need brakes for parking, runup, and panic purposes. Thanks, Bert _- >>Bert,Does your plane have a skid? If so, use the 8.00x4 and no brakes. My plane has a skid and no brakes and it works very well. I'm so used to it now, I would have a hard time with brakes. However, if you use brakes, the modern brakes are very good, but heavy! Doug bryant Wichita, Ks________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheelsIn a message dated 10/25/00 5:49:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bconoly(at)surfsouth.com writes: Fellas: I'm covering my fuse now so I need to finish up my landing gear and wheel/ brakes. Heres the question. I have a set of 8:00 x 4 cub wheels and tires. In order to put brakes on it I will have to get the brake parts (everything) for a Cub. I'm afraid it will be expensive to use this combo, and I understand that that type of old brake system is not very good anyway. I also have a set of 7:00 x 6 tires in fair shape. My axles are 1 1/4" steel on split axles with bungee chords. Should I .... a) try to build up brakes with old CUB components. or b) spring for 6" wheel/brake assemblies and have all new stuff I plan on using one brake cylinder and a hand operated lever. Dont plan on having toe or heal brakes. Most flyng will be off of grass so only need brakes for parking, runup, and panic purposes. Thanks, Bert _- >>Bert,Does your plane have a skid? If so, use the 8.00x4 and no brakes. My plane has a skid and no brakes and it works very well. I'm so used to it now, I would have a hard time with brakes. However, if you use brakes, the modern brakes are very good, but heavy! Doug bryant Wichita, Ks________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Original Posted By: "Conoly"
Ed, I bought a Sears 11" a few weeks ago, and it's been super handy. I also use a hand jigsaw for some jobs because of it's portability, and ability to cut pieces bigger than 11"!Gary________________________________________________________________________________
Ed, I bought a Sears 11" a few weeks ago, and it's been super handy. I also use a hand jigsaw for some jobs because of it's portability, and ability to cut pieces bigger than 11"!Gary________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By:
thanks Doug!Nope.Narry a skid to be found on mine. Got a big old honkin' tailwheel out there.I guess I need to be able to land at hard runways anyway, soI guess I'll gowith brakes. I think I'll go ahead with some clevelands or something, whatthe heck it's only credit :>)If you guys know somebody who can use these 8 x 4's , have 'em call me. OrI'll put em in the flea market at Sun N Fun. OOOOOOHHHHH. That's not faraway, is it!!!!Life is good!Best to all, Bert----- Original Message -----
thanks Doug!Nope.Narry a skid to be found on mine. Got a big old honkin' tailwheel out there.I guess I need to be able to land at hard runways anyway, soI guess I'll gowith brakes. I think I'll go ahead with some clevelands or something, whatthe heck it's only credit :>)If you guys know somebody who can use these 8 x 4's , have 'em call me. OrI'll put em in the flea market at Sun N Fun. OOOOOOHHHHH. That's not faraway, is it!!!!Life is good!Best to all, Bert----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List:
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
11:04:59 AMA big old guillotine style paper cutter works great for 1/16th ply.Like your knife method, no waste.Mike Steve Eldredge Sent by: To: "'pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com'", owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat "'Leo Powning'" ronics.com cc: Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List:Band saw size 10/26/2000 10:26 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list; Please respond to Steve Eldredge If your just doing 1/16" gussets, I suggest just using a sharp utilityknife. I did mine this way and there is no waste, and it goes veryfast. Iwas doing this last night for Tailwind gussets. Just score and breakitapart. I have a band saw, but don't remember using it much at all.Steve E.-----Original Message-----
11:04:59 AMA big old guillotine style paper cutter works great for 1/16th ply.Like your knife method, no waste.Mike Steve Eldredge Sent by: To: "'pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com'", owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat "'Leo Powning'" ronics.com cc: Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List:Band saw size 10/26/2000 10:26 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list; Please respond to Steve Eldredge If your just doing 1/16" gussets, I suggest just using a sharp utilityknife. I did mine this way and there is no waste, and it goes veryfast. Iwas doing this last night for Tailwind gussets. Just score and breakitapart. I have a band saw, but don't remember using it much at all.Steve E.-----Original Message-----
> Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Original Posted By: Ken Beanlands
> > Pietenpol-List: Band saw size
Original Posted By: Leo Powning
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Forgot about the paper cutter. I cut the 1/16 stuff in long strips with a razor knife and straight edge (easy) and then used the paper cutter to cut them into the smaller pieces. Worked really nice. I have a bandsaw and use it for cutting the bigger gussetts and for all the tail parts. Even the long parts can be cut off at an angle and then given a final cut. I even plan on slowing the bandsaw down, installing a metal cutting blade and cutting out some of the metal parts with it. What I found extremely useful is a disc sander. It makes fast work on tapering parts or small adjustments on gussett angles.Joe>From: "Mike Bell" >A big old guillotine style paper cutter works great for 1/16th ply.>Like your knife method, no waste.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:58:08 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Forgot about the paper cutter. I cut the 1/16 stuff in long strips with a razor knife and straight edge (easy) and then used the paper cutter to cut them into the smaller pieces. Worked really nice. I have a bandsaw and use it for cutting the bigger gussetts and for all the tail parts. Even the long parts can be cut off at an angle and then given a final cut. I even plan on slowing the bandsaw down, installing a metal cutting blade and cutting out some of the metal parts with it. What I found extremely useful is a disc sander. It makes fast work on tapering parts or small adjustments on gussett angles.Joe>From: "Mike Bell" >A big old guillotine style paper cutter works great for 1/16th ply.>Like your knife method, no waste.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:58:08 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re:brakes/wheels
Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
03:37:17 PMAttached are some "Brake" comments from the archives. What I waslooking for was a description of some "go cart" brakes that were usedon a Piet. I think I saw it at Brodhead last year. I didn't find it.I have some good pix of different brake set ups and if I can get themscanned anytime soon I'll post them to aircamper.org.Mike BellColumbia, SC************************************************************************************************************From the Archives************************************************************************************************************Ian Holland wrote:Getting down to the point of having to make a decision on what feet toinstall on the bird. So far, it will be metal, with brakes. However,when I look at the traditional cost of applying 6" wheels andclevelandbrakes, Icome up with a cost of about $650.00. Has anyone got a source ofalternatematerials that is not so pricey? (And that will hold up)? The planscallfor a one inch stub axle, but most of the purchased wheels are 3/4" or5/8". I am starting to get confused again, so I thought I would see whatthegroup is using as alternates.Any comments?Thanks, and Happy New Year!-=Ian=-I used Matco 6" wheels and hydraulic brakes. They manufacture forhomebuilts and I really like the quality. They are much likeclevelands, but cheaper. Not sure what prices are now. Check themoutat WWW.MATCOMFG.COM. I used the W62 model. with the 3/4" axles. Youhave to choose before welding the gear to match the axles. DuaneWoolsey used the 8" azuza (?) wheel on his plane with the manualbrakesand a 5/8" axle. Functional, but not really suitable for non hardsurface runways. check my web site for a pic of his wheels. (and mine)The long and short is.... Unless you build up your own wheels a lamotocycle derivitive, this will be one of the larger one-time outlaysofcash. I guess you could also scrounge for used cessna/piper/etc setsaswell. I saw main gear for a cessna find a home on a Christavia MK 4forabout $400. (catch that Ken?)Stevee
03:37:17 PMAttached are some "Brake" comments from the archives. What I waslooking for was a description of some "go cart" brakes that were usedon a Piet. I think I saw it at Brodhead last year. I didn't find it.I have some good pix of different brake set ups and if I can get themscanned anytime soon I'll post them to aircamper.org.Mike BellColumbia, SC************************************************************************************************************From the Archives************************************************************************************************************Ian Holland wrote:Getting down to the point of having to make a decision on what feet toinstall on the bird. So far, it will be metal, with brakes. However,when I look at the traditional cost of applying 6" wheels andclevelandbrakes, Icome up with a cost of about $650.00. Has anyone got a source ofalternatematerials that is not so pricey? (And that will hold up)? The planscallfor a one inch stub axle, but most of the purchased wheels are 3/4" or5/8". I am starting to get confused again, so I thought I would see whatthegroup is using as alternates.Any comments?Thanks, and Happy New Year!-=Ian=-I used Matco 6" wheels and hydraulic brakes. They manufacture forhomebuilts and I really like the quality. They are much likeclevelands, but cheaper. Not sure what prices are now. Check themoutat WWW.MATCOMFG.COM. I used the W62 model. with the 3/4" axles. Youhave to choose before welding the gear to match the axles. DuaneWoolsey used the 8" azuza (?) wheel on his plane with the manualbrakesand a 5/8" axle. Functional, but not really suitable for non hardsurface runways. check my web site for a pic of his wheels. (and mine)The long and short is.... Unless you build up your own wheels a lamotocycle derivitive, this will be one of the larger one-time outlaysofcash. I guess you could also scrounge for used cessna/piper/etc setsaswell. I saw main gear for a cessna find a home on a Christavia MK 4forabout $400. (catch that Ken?)Stevee