Original Posted By: Woodflier(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Question Hay all one more question! As it turns out we have One other Fusealge from 1996 that my dadstarted on. My question is this Do I need the reciepes from all thepurchases? as far the construction log that is no where in sight either?Thanks,Ben RamlerSt.Joesph,MN________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: QuestionIn a message dated 2/24/01 5:50:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, K0BLR(at)webtv.net writes:> !> > As it turns out we have One other Fusealge from 1996 that my dad> started on. My question is this Do I need the reciepes from all the> purchases? as far the construction log that is no where in sight either?> > Thanks,> Ben Ramler> St.Joesph,MN> > > Ben,You don't much documentation these days. Just a three view and an afidavit that says you built the aircraft for education and recreation. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: QuestionIn a message dated 2/24/01 5:50:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, K0BLR(at)webtv.net writes:> !> > As it turns out we have One other Fusealge from 1996 that my dad> started on. My question is this Do I need the reciepes from all the> purchases? as far the construction log that is no where in sight either?> > Thanks,> Ben Ramler> St.Joesph,MN> > > Ben,You don't much documentation these days. Just a three view and an afidavit that says you built the aircraft for education and recreation. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: K0BLR(at)webtv.net (Ben Ramler)
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: In a message dated 2/24/01 5:50:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, farmerdel(at)rocketmail.com writes:> It has been said then that the 1-19 cable is too rigid> to flex around to make a loop on the end. what are> your thoughts on using ball ends that are swaged on?> also if 3/32 cable is used that would be the> turnbuckles with the 10-24 threads, which will> withstand about 1400 lbs of pull (approximately) Is> that sufficent?> del> > Del,7x7 cable is a good all around cable and it is common. The turnbuckle will probably have 10-32 threads. It is strong enough. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: In a message dated 2/24/01 5:50:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, farmerdel(at)rocketmail.com writes:> It has been said then that the 1-19 cable is too rigid> to flex around to make a loop on the end. what are> your thoughts on using ball ends that are swaged on?> also if 3/32 cable is used that would be the> turnbuckles with the 10-24 threads, which will> withstand about 1400 lbs of pull (approximately) Is> that sufficent?> del> > Del,7x7 cable is a good all around cable and it is common. The turnbuckle will probably have 10-32 threads. It is strong enough. Doug Bryant________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: QuestionThanks Doug That Helps me out alot and saves me aggony of having torebuild.Ben________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:55:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: QuestionThanks Doug That Helps me out alot and saves me aggony of having torebuild.Ben________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:55:42 -0500
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Original Posted By: Borodent(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: QuestionPieters,Anyone out there with any familiarity of this powder painting process. Sure would like to hear from you. Corky in thunder and lightning La tonight________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: QuestionPieters,Anyone out there with any familiarity of this powder painting process. Sure would like to hear from you. Corky in thunder and lightning La tonight________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Questionsee article on MacLarens web site http://members.aol.com/bpabpabpa/powder.htmlHenry Williams - building ribs________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:50:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Questionsee article on MacLarens web site http://members.aol.com/bpabpabpa/powder.htmlHenry Williams - building ribs________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:50:32 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Powdercoating article
Original Posted By: Norman Stapelberg
06/22/2001 09:50:09 AMHi List,Just my 2 cents' worth re Grant MacClaren:His web site was my first resource for finding real useful information onPietenpols & continues to be helpful. The fact that he keeps it going &updated to some degree I think is highly comendable, all things considered.I sent him money to join the BPA, but he never cashed the check, so I don'tfeel like I was ever 'out' anything. Considering the effort it takes to geta web site up & maintained (witness the length of time it is taking the'new' BPA to get content on their site - it's a huge job!) Grant couldhave cashed my check & I still wouldn't have felt 'out' anything. I hope hefeels supported enough to keep the site up indefinitely!Cheers,Kip GardnerDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. SciencesOld Dominion UniversityNorfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Honor Veterans - Stop War"(On the car of a friend who is a decorated WWII veteran)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:05:04 +0200
06/22/2001 09:50:09 AMHi List,Just my 2 cents' worth re Grant MacClaren:His web site was my first resource for finding real useful information onPietenpols & continues to be helpful. The fact that he keeps it going &updated to some degree I think is highly comendable, all things considered.I sent him money to join the BPA, but he never cashed the check, so I don'tfeel like I was ever 'out' anything. Considering the effort it takes to geta web site up & maintained (witness the length of time it is taking the'new' BPA to get content on their site - it's a huge job!) Grant couldhave cashed my check & I still wouldn't have felt 'out' anything. I hope hefeels supported enough to keep the site up indefinitely!Cheers,Kip GardnerDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmos. SciencesOld Dominion UniversityNorfolk, VA 23529Ph: 757-683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Honor Veterans - Stop War"(On the car of a friend who is a decorated WWII veteran)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:05:04 +0200
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Original Posted By: "D.Dale Johnson"
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The powder coating system Dale's referring to below is (I just got theannouncement today....) on sale.....Jim in Plano Date: Jun 22, 2001 Subject: Re: Question
The powder coating system Dale's referring to below is (I just got theannouncement today....) on sale.....Jim in Plano Date: Jun 22, 2001 Subject: Re: Question
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Original Posted By: "Brian Kraut"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: QuestionKen,In the old days anything would deteriorate in gasoline in time, nowadays with the alcohol component and the new gasoline formulations is shelf life is about 30 days I am told I would doubt that after 45 days its not even gasolineanymore. I would run a trial and see what you get. I suspect the worst would be the varnish and gunk which may be more of the fuel than the fiber glass. You can go to the post manufacturer and request an MSDS to see what it is notcompatable. That too will give you some good info and quickly.JohnIn a message dated 2/21/2008 4:35:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com writes:Fellow Pieters:Does fiberglass deteriorate in gas after time? Specifically a fiberglass rod such as a driveway marker?Ken H____________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-plea ... 0000002598)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: QuestionKen,In the old days anything would deteriorate in gasoline in time, nowadays with the alcohol component and the new gasoline formulations is shelf life is about 30 days I am told I would doubt that after 45 days its not even gasolineanymore. I would run a trial and see what you get. I suspect the worst would be the varnish and gunk which may be more of the fuel than the fiber glass. You can go to the post manufacturer and request an MSDS to see what it is notcompatable. That too will give you some good info and quickly.JohnIn a message dated 2/21/2008 4:35:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com writes:Fellow Pieters:Does fiberglass deteriorate in gas after time? Specifically a fiberglass rod such as a driveway marker?Ken H____________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-plea ... 0000002598)________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "MikeD"
[quote="eng(at)canadianrogers.com"]For some reason, it seems that recently, thelist has become populated with Viagra messages, but if you scroll down pastthe first six or seven entries, you'll get to the real registrants. Bill C.> With a URL like "flyingwood" what would you expect!? [Laughing]Just grab the right joystick when it's time to flare...--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question
[quote="eng(at)canadianrogers.com"]For some reason, it seems that recently, thelist has become populated with Viagra messages, but if you scroll down pastthe first six or seven entries, you'll get to the real registrants. Bill C.> With a URL like "flyingwood" what would you expect!? [Laughing]Just grab the right joystick when it's time to flare...--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question
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Original Posted By: "Scott Schreiber"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: QuestionCompatibility between alcohols and gasoline is not disputed however anyone that's tried using old gasoline has experienced the impact of fuel that has degraded into both varnish and gum and crud which have little value as a motor fuel. I guess you have never had to clean a carburetor that was gunked up form old fuel. Again from personal experience and information I have gleaned; gasoline does have a shelf life because of its inability to retain its properties as a motor fuel, from what I have read. I suppose that's the reason many manufacturers of utility and recreational engines recommend that prolonged storageof the engine, fuel should be removed or treated with a stabilizing agent as provided in the instructions in the storage section of the manual.>From personal experience with my motorcycle I know that to be true!So what exactly are your disputing in my slightly exaggerated statement of 45 day no longer being gasoline?I look forward to learning about experience in using old gasoline.JohnIn a message dated 2/22/2008 9:37:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjdt(at)auracom.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MikeD" [quote="kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com"]Fellow Pieters:Does fiberglass deteriorate in gas after time? Specifically a fiberglass rod such as a driveway marker?Ken HBe a better friend, newshound, and > The key is the resin system. Fiberglass is just that - fiberglass - and it is vey resistant to most chemicals. The choice of resin binder system is whatdetermines chemical compatibilty in a composite material. There are several choices - epoxy, vinyl ester, polyester, melamine, thermoplastics... the listgoes on, all depends on the product. You would have to test. If in doubt and you want a rod for a specific purpose I'd suggest McMaster Carr or some otherplace so you can buy something that can be identified.Amsafetyc - what do you mean you doubt it is even gas after 45 days...? Ethanol or methanol and gasoline are compatible and don't react. If they did there would be quite a few consumer warnings to drain auto gas tanks and not tostore lawnmower gas for longer than a month.Mike--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... *****Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-plea ... 0000002598)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: QuestionCompatibility between alcohols and gasoline is not disputed however anyone that's tried using old gasoline has experienced the impact of fuel that has degraded into both varnish and gum and crud which have little value as a motor fuel. I guess you have never had to clean a carburetor that was gunked up form old fuel. Again from personal experience and information I have gleaned; gasoline does have a shelf life because of its inability to retain its properties as a motor fuel, from what I have read. I suppose that's the reason many manufacturers of utility and recreational engines recommend that prolonged storageof the engine, fuel should be removed or treated with a stabilizing agent as provided in the instructions in the storage section of the manual.>From personal experience with my motorcycle I know that to be true!So what exactly are your disputing in my slightly exaggerated statement of 45 day no longer being gasoline?I look forward to learning about experience in using old gasoline.JohnIn a message dated 2/22/2008 9:37:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, mjdt(at)auracom.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "MikeD" [quote="kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com"]Fellow Pieters:Does fiberglass deteriorate in gas after time? Specifically a fiberglass rod such as a driveway marker?Ken HBe a better friend, newshound, and > The key is the resin system. Fiberglass is just that - fiberglass - and it is vey resistant to most chemicals. The choice of resin binder system is whatdetermines chemical compatibilty in a composite material. There are several choices - epoxy, vinyl ester, polyester, melamine, thermoplastics... the listgoes on, all depends on the product. You would have to test. If in doubt and you want a rod for a specific purpose I'd suggest McMaster Carr or some otherplace so you can buy something that can be identified.Amsafetyc - what do you mean you doubt it is even gas after 45 days...? Ethanol or methanol and gasoline are compatible and don't react. If they did there would be quite a few consumer warnings to drain auto gas tanks and not tostore lawnmower gas for longer than a month.Mike--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... *****Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-plea ... 0000002598)________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "jimboyer(at)hughes.net"
For what it's worth.If anyone doubts that alcohol will harm fiberglass, all you need to do is contact "Boat US". Hugh problem with boat fuel tanks since alcohol was introduced into gas.Most Avid Airplane kits come with fiberglass tanks and a number of problems reported if alcohol was used.I'd be very careful before I put anything firberglass in a gas tank if there is any possibility you will use alcohol.I have been told that there is a alcohol resistant resin that can be used, as Mike suggests.Gene ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC)
For what it's worth.If anyone doubts that alcohol will harm fiberglass, all you need to do is contact "Boat US". Hugh problem with boat fuel tanks since alcohol was introduced into gas.Most Avid Airplane kits come with fiberglass tanks and a number of problems reported if alcohol was used.I'd be very careful before I put anything firberglass in a gas tank if there is any possibility you will use alcohol.I have been told that there is a alcohol resistant resin that can be used, as Mike suggests.Gene ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:47:55 +0000 (UTC)
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