Original Posted By: del magsam
I'm a little confused here. Is brazing defined as all gas welding? Should4130 all be arc welded?Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 05:59:59 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Original Posted By: "SAM & JAN MARINUCCI"
Among other useful comments, del magsam said:> arc welding is a no-no on 4130.Does anyone know whether the wartime Stinsonproduction used 4130 or 1025? I spent a coupleof hours one evening chatting with Emmett Griffen,who ran their welding shop, and he told of convertingto arc welding during WWII. It wasn't easy. At first,they had two guys running from station to stationgrinding out bad welds, but after about six monthsthey had it down. My impression was that they hadbeen using 4130, but at this point I'm not sure.Anyway, grossly impractical for us, but maybenot impossible.OwenDavies________________________________________________________________________________
Among other useful comments, del magsam said:> arc welding is a no-no on 4130.Does anyone know whether the wartime Stinsonproduction used 4130 or 1025? I spent a coupleof hours one evening chatting with Emmett Griffen,who ran their welding shop, and he told of convertingto arc welding during WWII. It wasn't easy. At first,they had two guys running from station to stationgrinding out bad welds, but after about six monthsthey had it down. My impression was that they hadbeen using 4130, but at this point I'm not sure.Anyway, grossly impractical for us, but maybenot impossible.OwenDavies________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Original Posted By: "del magsam"
Thanks for the info Del,Yes, I'm really hoping to fly down again - if the plane is ready. Right nowit is having both engines and props overhauled and annual inspection. Itshould be ready by the end of the month. If not I'll be flying the truckcamper.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Thanks for the info Del,Yes, I'm really hoping to fly down again - if the plane is ready. Right nowit is having both engines and props overhauled and annual inspection. Itshould be ready by the end of the month. If not I'll be flying the truckcamper.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
03/05/2001 02:05:35 PMI was thinking about hand brakes on the joystick. I know that I wantbrakes. Heel and toe have also been mentioned often.. I believe thatyou can find all three if you look at enough Piets.Mike Isablcorky(at)aol.com Sent by: To: pietenpol-list-digest(at)matronics.com owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat cc: ronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List:Brakes 03/05/2001 08:31 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list Brakes on a Pietenpol? HOW. The original had a rudder bar as no brakeswererequired. The Last Original had a tail wheel. Did it have brakes, toeor heel?These are questions I've tried all these rainy days to answer withoutfinalresolvement. Almost gave up on the whole project yesterday.I have narrowed it down to two options:1. Build rudder pedals with hinged toe devices to exert pressure onthe Matcocyl mounted vertically behind with attached resevoir.2. Weld an extention on the rudder bar and from it have a pivoting toeactionto activate the cyl.I don't know. Any of you who have solved this one please don't keep ittoyourself. I have Cessna wheel and brakes (Cleveland).Corky________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:29:48 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
03/05/2001 02:05:35 PMI was thinking about hand brakes on the joystick. I know that I wantbrakes. Heel and toe have also been mentioned often.. I believe thatyou can find all three if you look at enough Piets.Mike Isablcorky(at)aol.com Sent by: To: pietenpol-list-digest(at)matronics.com owner-pietenpol-list-server@mat cc: ronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List:Brakes 03/05/2001 08:31 AM Please respond to pietenpol-list Brakes on a Pietenpol? HOW. The original had a rudder bar as no brakeswererequired. The Last Original had a tail wheel. Did it have brakes, toeor heel?These are questions I've tried all these rainy days to answer withoutfinalresolvement. Almost gave up on the whole project yesterday.I have narrowed it down to two options:1. Build rudder pedals with hinged toe devices to exert pressure onthe Matcocyl mounted vertically behind with attached resevoir.2. Weld an extention on the rudder bar and from it have a pivoting toeactionto activate the cyl.I don't know. Any of you who have solved this one please don't keep ittoyourself. I have Cessna wheel and brakes (Cleveland).Corky________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:29:48 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Re: Pietenpol-List: Welding or Brazing
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Welding or Brazing
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Welding or Brazing
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet List: welding
Original Posted By:
Sorry, it is for oxy acetylene welding and can post weld heat treat by arapid change of the tip. Just to normalize tig welds, any old cheap torchwill do.----- Original Message -----
Sorry, it is for oxy acetylene welding and can post weld heat treat by arapid change of the tip. Just to normalize tig welds, any old cheap torchwill do.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding/brazing
Original Posted By: "Michael Brusilow"
> WW II Stinsons used 1025 steel. (etc.)Many thanks. No chance I'd try to stick welda plane myself. I enjoy playing with a torch too much for that. It wasstictly of theoretical interest.Owen________________________________________________________________________________
> WW II Stinsons used 1025 steel. (etc.)Many thanks. No chance I'd try to stick welda plane myself. I enjoy playing with a torch too much for that. It wasstictly of theoretical interest.Owen________________________________________________________________________________