Original Posted By: "Mckellars"
Gene Tomblin wrote about: Cut out verses flopp in center cectionGene, if you like the looks of the cut out in the center section then that'sgood enough reason for going that way. There is really no "need" for a'flopp' or a 'cut out' in the center section, you can get into and out ofthecockpit without it. But it does make getting in and out a little easier ifyouhave any problem "folding" in the middle.Also, raising the wing 2" higher by using longer cabanes and lift strutsmakes it easier too and you probably wouldn't even miss a cut out.Rodger ChildsPiet in progress________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionIf, I had tried to climb aboard a Piet BEFORE I began this project, I would have looked for an old Waco UPF to rebuild. After the discussions earlier I went out and put some chairs close and tried to board my Piet fuse. I had tried and entered successfully without the centersection attached last August. Today the C S was attached and I TRIED to board the Piet. I thought I would look awkward but nothing like that turned out. It was an awful site. I WISH SOMEONE WOULD GIVE A GOOD AND THOROUGH EXPLANATION ON THE PROPER MANNER TO BOARD A PIET. I'VE RAISED THE CABANES 2 INCHES, MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO 6. I WAS SHOCKED. There just isn't enough room (for me ) I'm going to have to find some more cut-aways.Corky, the La contortionist.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:05:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionIf, I had tried to climb aboard a Piet BEFORE I began this project, I would have looked for an old Waco UPF to rebuild. After the discussions earlier I went out and put some chairs close and tried to board my Piet fuse. I had tried and entered successfully without the centersection attached last August. Today the C S was attached and I TRIED to board the Piet. I thought I would look awkward but nothing like that turned out. It was an awful site. I WISH SOMEONE WOULD GIVE A GOOD AND THOROUGH EXPLANATION ON THE PROPER MANNER TO BOARD A PIET. I'VE RAISED THE CABANES 2 INCHES, MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO 6. I WAS SHOCKED. There just isn't enough room (for me ) I'm going to have to find some more cut-aways.Corky, the La contortionist.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:05:07 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: "Gary Meadows"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionCorky,My cabanes are 2" longer than plans length, no cutout, no flop, no step. I am 6' tall, 200lbs., 46 yrs. young,...now, here's the way I do it: Standing on the left side, I grasp the left rear cabane strut, about half way up. I then grab my right pants cuff, with my right hand, and lift my foot up over the side of the plane, and place my right foot on the seat, with my toe pointing to the right side. I then grasp the right cabane strut with my right hand, and hoist my head & shoulders all the way over the right side of the cockpit, extending my left arm till my elbow is straight, with my back lightly touching the bottom of the wing. I then bend my left knee all the way, and am able to bring my left foot inside, and place it on the floor. Shifting all my weight to my left foot, and two good handholds, I then place my right foot on the floor, have a seat, and extend my two feet to the rudder bar. To get out, simply reverse the procedure. For me, it is very easy, and has become second nature. I've shown this method to lots of people, and so far, nobody has much of a problem getting in and out. I can even get in & out of the front pit, without too much trouble, except for placing my head & neck above the cross cables, on the right side of the front pit. First flight planned for early summer. Chuck GantzerWichita KSNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionCorky,My cabanes are 2" longer than plans length, no cutout, no flop, no step. I am 6' tall, 200lbs., 46 yrs. young,...now, here's the way I do it: Standing on the left side, I grasp the left rear cabane strut, about half way up. I then grab my right pants cuff, with my right hand, and lift my foot up over the side of the plane, and place my right foot on the seat, with my toe pointing to the right side. I then grasp the right cabane strut with my right hand, and hoist my head & shoulders all the way over the right side of the cockpit, extending my left arm till my elbow is straight, with my back lightly touching the bottom of the wing. I then bend my left knee all the way, and am able to bring my left foot inside, and place it on the floor. Shifting all my weight to my left foot, and two good handholds, I then place my right foot on the floor, have a seat, and extend my two feet to the rudder bar. To get out, simply reverse the procedure. For me, it is very easy, and has become second nature. I've shown this method to lots of people, and so far, nobody has much of a problem getting in and out. I can even get in & out of the front pit, without too much trouble, except for placing my head & neck above the cross cables, on the right side of the front pit. First flight planned for early summer. Chuck GantzerWichita KSNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionChuck,How much will it cost me to get a video of that mounting and dismounting?Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionChuck,How much will it cost me to get a video of that mounting and dismounting?Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionIn a message dated 3/7/01 11:21:08 PM Central Standard Time, Isablcorky(at)aol.com writes:>Just bring me a tube of Ben Gay !! lol Seriously, it's not difficult at all, once ya figure out the moves.Chuck________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionIn a message dated 3/7/01 11:21:08 PM Central Standard Time, Isablcorky(at)aol.com writes:>Just bring me a tube of Ben Gay !! lol Seriously, it's not difficult at all, once ya figure out the moves.Chuck________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: "Mike Bell"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionSeriously, I wish I could raise my leg that high. No way anymore.Corky________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionSeriously, I wish I could raise my leg that high. No way anymore.Corky________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: "Greg Yotz"
03/08/2001 07:39:35 AMPlease send pictures.MikeIf, I had tried to climb aboard a Piet BEFORE I began this project, Iwouldhave looked for an old Waco UPF to rebuild. After the discussionsearlier Iwent out and put some chairs close and tried to board my Piet fuse. Ihadtried and entered successfully without the centersection attached lastAugust. Today the C S was attached and I TRIED to board the Piet. Ithought Iwould look awkward but nothing like that turned out. It was an awfulsite. IWISH SOMEONE WOULD GIVE A GOOD AND THOROUGH EXPLANATION ON THE PROPERMANNERTO BOARD A PIET. I'VE RAISED THE CABANES 2 INCHES, MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO6. IWAS SHOCKED. There just isn't enough room (for me )I'm going to have to find some more cut-aways.Corky, the La contortionist.________________________________________________________________________________
03/08/2001 07:39:35 AMPlease send pictures.MikeIf, I had tried to climb aboard a Piet BEFORE I began this project, Iwouldhave looked for an old Waco UPF to rebuild. After the discussionsearlier Iwent out and put some chairs close and tried to board my Piet fuse. Ihadtried and entered successfully without the centersection attached lastAugust. Today the C S was attached and I TRIED to board the Piet. Ithought Iwould look awkward but nothing like that turned out. It was an awfulsite. IWISH SOMEONE WOULD GIVE A GOOD AND THOROUGH EXPLANATION ON THE PROPERMANNERTO BOARD A PIET. I'VE RAISED THE CABANES 2 INCHES, MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO6. IWAS SHOCKED. There just isn't enough room (for me )I'm going to have to find some more cut-aways.Corky, the La contortionist.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionAs we say down south, I'm S O L .________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionAs we say down south, I'm S O L .________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
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Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cection
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionJohn, Honestly, When I finally blubbard my way into the rear hole I knew d--- well I'd have to remove the centersectio or have the Mrs call 911 to get out. I've destructured the whole plane . Removed the gears and put the fuse on it's side in my little shop, This to fab the brake system. I've decided to use heel brakes with levers about like a cub. Instead of connecting to the cyl at a point on this lever I will weld an attachment rod to drop through a slot in the floor to activate the cyl mounted under the floor. I acquired a pair of Scott 4200 parking brakes cyl to complete the under floor rig. It will be easier to mount this with the fuse available to turn on both side and bottom. Will have to make the under fuse fairing a pair and deeper. On the subject of Pietenpol ingress, I am changing my center section to the hinged flap. Haven't seen any pics or read any discussion on this but have pictured mentally how I think I will proceed. Will establish a second rear spar about 2 to 3 inches in rear of the rear spar to extend through the gap between center section and wings. Leaving clearence, finish out this "wing " to the trailing edge. This will omit a wide gap on either side of the flap wing. Mount on solid material with a piano hinge and a pair of latches. This, I dream, will help me get into this thing.Soprry for so long a description but it might stimulate some differing opinions which helps in the learning and building processes.Corky in cloudy Louisiana________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 'Cut out' verses 'flopp' in center cectionJohn, Honestly, When I finally blubbard my way into the rear hole I knew d--- well I'd have to remove the centersectio or have the Mrs call 911 to get out. I've destructured the whole plane . Removed the gears and put the fuse on it's side in my little shop, This to fab the brake system. I've decided to use heel brakes with levers about like a cub. Instead of connecting to the cyl at a point on this lever I will weld an attachment rod to drop through a slot in the floor to activate the cyl mounted under the floor. I acquired a pair of Scott 4200 parking brakes cyl to complete the under floor rig. It will be easier to mount this with the fuse available to turn on both side and bottom. Will have to make the under fuse fairing a pair and deeper. On the subject of Pietenpol ingress, I am changing my center section to the hinged flap. Haven't seen any pics or read any discussion on this but have pictured mentally how I think I will proceed. Will establish a second rear spar about 2 to 3 inches in rear of the rear spar to extend through the gap between center section and wings. Leaving clearence, finish out this "wing " to the trailing edge. This will omit a wide gap on either side of the flap wing. Mount on solid material with a piano hinge and a pair of latches. This, I dream, will help me get into this thing.Soprry for so long a description but it might stimulate some differing opinions which helps in the learning and building processes.Corky in cloudy Louisiana________________________________________________________________________________