Original Posted By: Kirk Huizenga
Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Re: Pietenpol-List: A debt of gratitude
Original Posted By: "Richard Gillespie"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A debt of gratitudeHi Dick,Things are getting better by the hour. Instead of my sending an address, how about you sending yours so I can send you a little $$$$ for mailings and trouble.CorkyOn the subject of wooden struts, a member has done this very successfully. Lost his name since Brodhead but he is from Ohio. I visited with him a little while on the strut subject. His struts are laminated with a core of 1/4 marine ply and the bread is ash. Beautiful. Also,from studying the spec on "The Spirit of ST> LOUIS", they used round 1050 steel with balsa fairings. This was the way I was going until an old friend found some NOS streamline tubing and gave it to me.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A debt of gratitudeHi Dick,Things are getting better by the hour. Instead of my sending an address, how about you sending yours so I can send you a little $$$$ for mailings and trouble.CorkyOn the subject of wooden struts, a member has done this very successfully. Lost his name since Brodhead but he is from Ohio. I visited with him a little while on the strut subject. His struts are laminated with a core of 1/4 marine ply and the bread is ash. Beautiful. Also,from studying the spec on "The Spirit of ST> LOUIS", they used round 1050 steel with balsa fairings. This was the way I was going until an old friend found some NOS streamline tubing and gave it to me.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: A debt of gratitude
Original Posted By: "Richard Gillespie"
Corky,No need, they don't weigh that much and you might not want to use them.Wait until you get them and if you like them you can send the postage thenif you insist. Meanwhile give me your address.DickG.________________________________________________________________________________
Corky,No need, they don't weigh that much and you might not want to use them.Wait until you get them and if you like them you can send the postage thenif you insist. Meanwhile give me your address.DickG.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "Owen Davies"
`Kirk,I have a rather crude drawing I got from a fellow in Mich.(can't find hisname and address) and if you'd like a copy send me your address or Fax No.DickG.Ft. Myers, FL________________________________________________________________________________
`Kirk,I have a rather crude drawing I got from a fellow in Mich.(can't find hisname and address) and if you'd like a copy send me your address or Fax No.DickG.Ft. Myers, FL________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: 2 Airspeed indicators
Original Posted By: Kirk Huizenga
KirkThe air speed indicators are what is referred to as pressure staticinstruments. The air pressure increase due to the pitot tube facing therelative wind does not cause an airflow in the tubing. "T"ing in anadditional instrument should have no affect on the other.Have you considered the old vane type out on the jury strut? Looks old timeyand the markings can be what suits you.How about -"TOO SLOW ,ABOUT RIGHT, WAY TOO FAST,& WOW!"John Mc----- Original Message -----
KirkThe air speed indicators are what is referred to as pressure staticinstruments. The air pressure increase due to the pitot tube facing therelative wind does not cause an airflow in the tubing. "T"ing in anadditional instrument should have no affect on the other.Have you considered the old vane type out on the jury strut? Looks old timeyand the markings can be what suits you.How about -"TOO SLOW ,ABOUT RIGHT, WAY TOO FAST,& WOW!"John Mc----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: 2 Airspeed indicators
Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "Warren D. Shoun"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "Michael Brusilow"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing StrutsThe guy from Orlando Fl with the wood struts is Allen Wise. I wasamazed at their simplicity. They looked like ash about 1 1/4" X about2 1/2" attached top and bottom with a steel strap on each side of thestrut the straps are simply bent close together at the ends and a boltgoes through the straps and the lift strut fittings. If I remember rightthe plane was built in 1963 and has over 1600 hours of air time.!!!!! Ed G.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing StrutsThe guy from Orlando Fl with the wood struts is Allen Wise. I wasamazed at their simplicity. They looked like ash about 1 1/4" X about2 1/2" attached top and bottom with a steel strap on each side of thestrut the straps are simply bent close together at the ends and a boltgoes through the straps and the lift strut fittings. If I remember rightthe plane was built in 1963 and has over 1600 hours of air time.!!!!! Ed G.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
Kirk Huizenga asked:> Has anyone built streamlined wing struts out of wood. I know know of > a number of Piets with wood landing gear vees with straight axle, but > it seems all struts are metal.At Sun 'N Fun one year, there was a Piet with wood strutsthat reportedly had been flying with them for 20 years or more.With enough effort, I might remember the owner's name, butthe plane had been built by someone else.Also, the plane by the fabled Keri Ann Price has wood struts,and she offered plans--more like sketches, I suppose--forthem as well as for her other mods. Maybe we'll track herdown someday.If you're willing to forego the "streamlined" part of your request,I even remember seeing a photo of a Piet with struts thatappeared to be fir 2X4s!Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________
Kirk Huizenga asked:> Has anyone built streamlined wing struts out of wood. I know know of > a number of Piets with wood landing gear vees with straight axle, but > it seems all struts are metal.At Sun 'N Fun one year, there was a Piet with wood strutsthat reportedly had been flying with them for 20 years or more.With enough effort, I might remember the owner's name, butthe plane had been built by someone else.Also, the plane by the fabled Keri Ann Price has wood struts,and she offered plans--more like sketches, I suppose--forthem as well as for her other mods. Maybe we'll track herdown someday.If you're willing to forego the "streamlined" part of your request,I even remember seeing a photo of a Piet with struts thatappeared to be fir 2X4s!Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "Mike Bell"
This is a distraction I know, but I understand from a car mechanic friend of mine that new cars will soon be firing up without a starter. The computer will determine crank position, which piston is at or near TDC, then inject a squirt of fuel, light it off, adn the engine is off and running. Ain't computers great? They are about to learn what you guys have been doing for years!Gary________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
This is a distraction I know, but I understand from a car mechanic friend of mine that new cars will soon be firing up without a starter. The computer will determine crank position, which piston is at or near TDC, then inject a squirt of fuel, light it off, adn the engine is off and running. Ain't computers great? They are about to learn what you guys have been doing for years!Gary________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
Ed G. remembered:> The guy from Orlando Fl with the wood struts is Allen Wise. I was> amazed at their simplicity. They looked like ash about 1 1/4" X about> 2 1/2" attached top and bottom with a steel strap on each side of the> strut the straps are simply bent close together at the ends and a bolt> goes through the straps and the lift strut fittings. If I remember right> the plane was built in 1963 and has over 1600 hours of air time.!!!!!That's the one I saw at Sun 'N Fun, too darned many years ago.(Really got to get to Lakeland again one of these times!)Wasn't that also the plane where the pilot pulls on a big leverto apply the brakes, and the bicycle-type fenders move downto clamp pieces of hard rubber against the tires?Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________
Ed G. remembered:> The guy from Orlando Fl with the wood struts is Allen Wise. I was> amazed at their simplicity. They looked like ash about 1 1/4" X about> 2 1/2" attached top and bottom with a steel strap on each side of the> strut the straps are simply bent close together at the ends and a bolt> goes through the straps and the lift strut fittings. If I remember right> the plane was built in 1963 and has over 1600 hours of air time.!!!!!That's the one I saw at Sun 'N Fun, too darned many years ago.(Really got to get to Lakeland again one of these times!)Wasn't that also the plane where the pilot pulls on a big leverto apply the brakes, and the bicycle-type fenders move downto clamp pieces of hard rubber against the tires?Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________
Original Posted By: "Mckellars"
03/14/2001 07:30:10 AMI know that there is at least one. It's struts are made with aplywood core covered by ash. I know that I've seen a drawing forthese also. Can't remember where. It might be in one of the Bingelisbooks. If no one else comes up with it, I'll try to lay hands on it.Mike________________________________________________________________________________
03/14/2001 07:30:10 AMI know that there is at least one. It's struts are made with aplywood core covered by ash. I know that I've seen a drawing forthese also. Can't remember where. It might be in one of the Bingelisbooks. If no one else comes up with it, I'll try to lay hands on it.Mike________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "Joe Krzes"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing StrutsOn the wood struts, I remember now the gentleman I met at Brodhead with the fine Piet with wooden struts is Will Graeff from Ohio.Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing StrutsOn the wood struts, I remember now the gentleman I met at Brodhead with the fine Piet with wooden struts is Will Graeff from Ohio.Corky________________________________________________________________________________
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
Actually Owen The plane has steel fenders over the wheels with cables attached to them. when he pulls the brake lever the fenders are pulled down against the tires. I couldn't belive it when I saw how they worked, what a riot!!! Ed G.>From: "Owen Davies" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:22 -0800>>>Ed G. remembered:>> > The guy from Orlando Fl with the wood struts is Allen Wise. I was> > amazed at their simplicity. They looked like ash about 1 1/4" X about> > 2 1/2" attached top and bottom with a steel strap on each side of the> > strut the straps are simply bent close together at the ends and a bolt> > goes through the straps and the lift strut fittings. If I remember right> > the plane was built in 1963 and has over 1600 hours of air time.!!!!!>>That's the one I saw at Sun 'N Fun, too darned many years ago.>(Really got to get to Lakeland again one of these times!)>Wasn't that also the plane where the pilot pulls on a big lever>to apply the brakes, and the bicycle-type fenders move down>to clamp pieces of hard rubber against the tires?>>Owen Davies>>________________________________________________________________________________
Actually Owen The plane has steel fenders over the wheels with cables attached to them. when he pulls the brake lever the fenders are pulled down against the tires. I couldn't belive it when I saw how they worked, what a riot!!! Ed G.>From: "Owen Davies" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts>Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:18:22 -0800>>>Ed G. remembered:>> > The guy from Orlando Fl with the wood struts is Allen Wise. I was> > amazed at their simplicity. They looked like ash about 1 1/4" X about> > 2 1/2" attached top and bottom with a steel strap on each side of the> > strut the straps are simply bent close together at the ends and a bolt> > goes through the straps and the lift strut fittings. If I remember right> > the plane was built in 1963 and has over 1600 hours of air time.!!!!!>>That's the one I saw at Sun 'N Fun, too darned many years ago.>(Really got to get to Lakeland again one of these times!)>Wasn't that also the plane where the pilot pulls on a big lever>to apply the brakes, and the bicycle-type fenders move down>to clamp pieces of hard rubber against the tires?>>Owen Davies>>________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Wing Struts
Original Posted By: "Owen Davies"
ED GRENTZER replied:> Actually Owen The plane has steel fenders over the wheels with cables> attached to them. when he pulls the brake lever the fenders are pulleddown> against the tires. I couldn't belive it when I saw how they worked, what a> riot!!!Yeah, I got a good chuckle out of it. So did Alan,as I recall. He said they sort of worked, though.Owen________________________________________________________________________________
ED GRENTZER replied:> Actually Owen The plane has steel fenders over the wheels with cables> attached to them. when he pulls the brake lever the fenders are pulleddown> against the tires. I couldn't belive it when I saw how they worked, what a> riot!!!Yeah, I got a good chuckle out of it. So did Alan,as I recall. He said they sort of worked, though.Owen________________________________________________________________________________