Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Pietenpol-List: Lift Struts
Original Posted By: Warren Shoun
Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: Rodger & Betty
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lift Struts
Original Posted By: del magsam
Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: kgardner(at)odu.edu
How many and what size stringers should there be in the turtle deck ? Iknow the plans show 7 but some pictures of work in progress show more.Is there a former where the fuse joins the stab or do the stringersjust come together at the front of the stab. Kip, Thanks for the info onWilliam Wynne. I'm planning on using a Corvair engine. Thanks toeveryone. I know I've asked a bunch of questions. Mark________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
How many and what size stringers should there be in the turtle deck ? Iknow the plans show 7 but some pictures of work in progress show more.Is there a former where the fuse joins the stab or do the stringersjust come together at the front of the stab. Kip, Thanks for the info onWilliam Wynne. I'm planning on using a Corvair engine. Thanks toeveryone. I know I've asked a bunch of questions. Mark________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: "Mckellars"
02/26/2001 03:01:39 PMMark,When I visited Andrew Pietenpol, he said put in 9 stringers, it looksbetter. Just replot the distribution evenly across the space. The new onehe is working on is done that way. BTW, if you haven't gotten William'sconversion manual, do so, it's very good. You can reach him at, a year ago his price was $49.00. Also get a copy of"Keeping Your Corvair Alive" by Richard Finch. It's available throughAmazon.mckellar(at)bluebonnet.net@matronics.com on 02/26/2001 02:43:14 PMPlease respond to pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.comcc:Subject: Pietenpol-List: StringersHow many and what size stringers should there be in the turtle deck ? Iknow the plans show 7 but some pictures of work in progress show more.Is there a former where the fuse joins the stab or do the stringersjust come together at the front of the stab. Kip, Thanks for the info onWilliam Wynne. I'm planning on using a Corvair engine. Thanks toeveryone. I know I've asked a bunch of questions. MarkCheers!Kip GardnerLaboratory Manager, ODUDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmospheric Sciences4600 Elkhorn AvenueNorfolk, VA 23529(757)683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Don't Drink and Park - 'Accidents' Cause People"________________________________________________________________________________
02/26/2001 03:01:39 PMMark,When I visited Andrew Pietenpol, he said put in 9 stringers, it looksbetter. Just replot the distribution evenly across the space. The new onehe is working on is done that way. BTW, if you haven't gotten William'sconversion manual, do so, it's very good. You can reach him at, a year ago his price was $49.00. Also get a copy of"Keeping Your Corvair Alive" by Richard Finch. It's available throughAmazon.mckellar(at)bluebonnet.net@matronics.com on 02/26/2001 02:43:14 PMPlease respond to pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.comcc:Subject: Pietenpol-List: StringersHow many and what size stringers should there be in the turtle deck ? Iknow the plans show 7 but some pictures of work in progress show more.Is there a former where the fuse joins the stab or do the stringersjust come together at the front of the stab. Kip, Thanks for the info onWilliam Wynne. I'm planning on using a Corvair engine. Thanks toeveryone. I know I've asked a bunch of questions. MarkCheers!Kip GardnerLaboratory Manager, ODUDept. of Ocean, Earth & Atmospheric Sciences4600 Elkhorn AvenueNorfolk, VA 23529(757)683-5654Bumper Sticker of the Week:"Don't Drink and Park - 'Accidents' Cause People"________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: "D.Dale Johnson"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: StringersIn a message dated 2/26/01 4:19:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, dd5john(at)juno.com writes:> I would like to add my 2 cents to this stringer debate. I used 1/4 x 1"> redwood then at each bay I recessed 1/16 inch plywood scalloped at each> stringer. The helmet box is big with 1/16 plywood glued to the in side of> the stringers. The back of the helmet box has 1/8 " clear plastic. This> allows you to open the helmet box door and inspect the tail section and> all the cables. I used 9 stringers 9" high this will give more height for> shoulder belts. Dale> Johnson > > > The 1/4 X1 stringer dimension is on page 19 of the 1932 F&GM. It is also in the 1933 F&GM for the scout. Couldn't find it on the improved aircamper plans. Doug Bryant ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: StringersIn a message dated 2/26/01 4:19:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, dd5john(at)juno.com writes:> I would like to add my 2 cents to this stringer debate. I used 1/4 x 1"> redwood then at each bay I recessed 1/16 inch plywood scalloped at each> stringer. The helmet box is big with 1/16 plywood glued to the in side of> the stringers. The back of the helmet box has 1/8 " clear plastic. This> allows you to open the helmet box door and inspect the tail section and> all the cables. I used 9 stringers 9" high this will give more height for> shoulder belts. Dale> Johnson > > > The 1/4 X1 stringer dimension is on page 19 of the 1932 F&GM. It is also in the 1933 F&GM for the scout. Couldn't find it on the improved aircamper plans. Doug Bryant ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: nle97(at)juno.com
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Original Posted By: "ED GRENTZER"
Hey John, That sounds just like me! I worried it and messed with it, then I talked with Mike Cuy, and he said he basically laid it out best he could, then shaved wood off or laminated on thin strips to get the right height! I used the chalk line eyeballed it, and it turned out pretty good - not perfect, but I think I can live with it! Mike Cuy said to take a flat piece of wood and rock over all the stringers, if you didn't skip any stringers cause they were too low, then your okay!My final test - my wife and I took a bedsheet and stretched over it - good enough!!! Sound familiar??!! Great minds or something like that!Thanks,Gary________________________________________________________________________________
Hey John, That sounds just like me! I worried it and messed with it, then I talked with Mike Cuy, and he said he basically laid it out best he could, then shaved wood off or laminated on thin strips to get the right height! I used the chalk line eyeballed it, and it turned out pretty good - not perfect, but I think I can live with it! Mike Cuy said to take a flat piece of wood and rock over all the stringers, if you didn't skip any stringers cause they were too low, then your okay!My final test - my wife and I took a bedsheet and stretched over it - good enough!!! Sound familiar??!! Great minds or something like that!Thanks,Gary________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Del, That's pretty impressive - 2 hours for your turtledeck! You musta got your fuselage done in like 6 hours!Imagine that, and John and both being A&P's, maybe we just make things too hard sometimes. Which plans did you use by the way?Gary________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:49:04 -0500
Del, That's pretty impressive - 2 hours for your turtledeck! You musta got your fuselage done in like 6 hours!Imagine that, and John and both being A&P's, maybe we just make things too hard sometimes. Which plans did you use by the way?Gary________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:49:04 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
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Original Posted By: Michael Brusilow
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: Christian Bobka
Concerning the suggestion for the turtledeck stringers posted by... "Michael Brusilow" > A suggestion;> > Two methods to attach the stringers to the formers:> 1) notch the formers or:> 2) no sweat method, lay the stringers on the formers, line them up,then> notch individual pieces of ply, notch them, set them on the stringers, &> glue them to the formers.> > Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )After taking 3 months @ 1 nite a week to finish the turtledeck usingsuggestion #1, NOW he tells me about suggestion #2! (sigh). =;)Thanks, RodgerPiet in progress________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:04:14 -0500
Concerning the suggestion for the turtledeck stringers posted by... "Michael Brusilow" > A suggestion;> > Two methods to attach the stringers to the formers:> 1) notch the formers or:> 2) no sweat method, lay the stringers on the formers, line them up,then> notch individual pieces of ply, notch them, set them on the stringers, &> glue them to the formers.> > Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )After taking 3 months @ 1 nite a week to finish the turtledeck usingsuggestion #1, NOW he tells me about suggestion #2! (sigh). =;)Thanks, RodgerPiet in progress________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:04:14 -0500
Fw: Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: "Larry Williams"
>How has people done there turtle backing. I will be rebuildigeverything>above the top longeron and the turtle back is first.>Thanks all,>Ben RamlerA suggestion;Two methods to attach the stringers to the formers:1) notch the formers or: 2) no sweat method, lay the stringers on the formers, line them up,thennotch individual pieces of ply, set them on the stringers, & glue themto the formers.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________
>How has people done there turtle backing. I will be rebuildigeverything>above the top longeron and the turtle back is first.>Thanks all,>Ben RamlerA suggestion;Two methods to attach the stringers to the formers:1) notch the formers or: 2) no sweat method, lay the stringers on the formers, line them up,thennotch individual pieces of ply, set them on the stringers, & glue themto the formers.Mike B Piet N687MB ( Mr Sam )________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Stringers
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: StringersI glued the stringers to the front and rear bulkheads, than made 1"finger supports from 1/8 ply. with slots in upper end for the stringers.The supports look fan like (or spoke like) glued to the cross pieces.No measuring, just eye ball for straightness of stringers and glue on.Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: StringersI glued the stringers to the front and rear bulkheads, than made 1"finger supports from 1/8 ply. with slots in upper end for the stringers.The supports look fan like (or spoke like) glued to the cross pieces.No measuring, just eye ball for straightness of stringers and glue on.Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________