Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
I'm just now at a point where I'm ready to cover, and I think that I've gota lead on a certified prop for the A65 Cont. going on an AirCamper.But from the day I recieved the plans , I've dreamed of having my handcarved prop on the front. Seems when anyone walks down the flightline at afly-in, the first thing they see is the front of the plane and the prop!Some of these props are so beautiful, they bring tears to your eyes. And Iwant to have the knowledge to make one.Here's where the questions start.....Many laminations look good, but they say that three laminations hold up justas well.?Carving one seems to be settled in my head, with all the techniques thatI've seen, but the choosing of wood ,,and the grain thing,,,and laying thegrain together,,,and what wood to use, and not to use ,,that's whatconfusing.Think I fell in love with the prop look when I saw Jim Malley's Piet andprop in Kitplanes,long time ago.(still have the issue)I had disected a busted Sensinich prop from an old Piper J2, and it seemsthe laminations are about 1/4 to 3/8" thick, with the grain with circular"smiles" that are back to back through the whole prop.What's the poop on props?Can everyone tell me what they know??walt-----------------------------------------------------________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By: "Greg Cardinal"
David Kowell suggested:> if you want to know how to carve a prop call my brother at 518 5875873his name is paul> he has don a few at about 40.00 a pop it is really simple and the thejig to make them can> be made from parts you can buy at most hardeware storesThis seems like a subject of general interest, even if itis not specific to Piets. Any chance of having it writtenup for the list? Please?Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:14:39 -0600
David Kowell suggested:> if you want to know how to carve a prop call my brother at 518 5875873his name is paul> he has don a few at about 40.00 a pop it is really simple and the thejig to make them can> be made from parts you can buy at most hardeware storesThis seems like a subject of general interest, even if itis not specific to Piets. Any chance of having it writtenup for the list? Please?Owen Davies________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:14:39 -0600
Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By: Doug413(at)aol.com
04/26/2001 12:54:14 PMWell,As I was sitting here reading about the hoped-for joys of propcarving, an F-18 went roaring past my office window at about 300'.Talk about feeling like being in a time warp!Having been out of town for most of the past 2 weeks, I forgot that it'sthe weekend for the monster spring air show at the Naval Air Station. Sothe Blue Angels are here & it looks like they are taking advantage of abeautiful spring day to practice.Happy Flyin' Everyone!________________________________________________________________________________
04/26/2001 12:54:14 PMWell,As I was sitting here reading about the hoped-for joys of propcarving, an F-18 went roaring past my office window at about 300'.Talk about feeling like being in a time warp!Having been out of town for most of the past 2 weeks, I forgot that it'sthe weekend for the monster spring air show at the Naval Air Station. Sothe Blue Angels are here & it looks like they are taking advantage of abeautiful spring day to practice.Happy Flyin' Everyone!________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By: "Michael King"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?In a message dated 4/25/01 4:33:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wbeevans(at)worldnet.att.net writes:> Carving one seems to be settled in my head, with all the techniques that> I've seen, but the choosing of wood ,,and the grain thing,,,and laying the> grain together,,,and what wood to use, and not to use ,,that's what> confusing.> Think I fell in love with the prop look when I saw Jim Malley's Piet and> prop in Kitplanes,long time ago.(still have the issue)> I had disected a busted Sensinich prop from an old Piper J2, and it seems> the laminations are about 1/4 to 3/8" thick, with the grain with circular> "smiles" that are back to back through the whole prop.> What's the poop on props?> Can everyone tell me what they know??> walt> -----------------------------------------------------> > > Walter,I followed the general technique in the back section of the 1933 F&GM reprint from the EAA and the prop plan from Orrin Hoopman. I have about 100 hours on that piet now and still like the prop. I covered the entire outboard half of the blade with fiberglass per instructions from (Gus Weibe) our local wood airplane guru. The fiber glass is much easier than brass tipping and can become invisible under high gloss Alkyd spar varnish from ACE. Doug Bryant Wichita Ks ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?In a message dated 4/25/01 4:33:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wbeevans(at)worldnet.att.net writes:> Carving one seems to be settled in my head, with all the techniques that> I've seen, but the choosing of wood ,,and the grain thing,,,and laying the> grain together,,,and what wood to use, and not to use ,,that's what> confusing.> Think I fell in love with the prop look when I saw Jim Malley's Piet and> prop in Kitplanes,long time ago.(still have the issue)> I had disected a busted Sensinich prop from an old Piper J2, and it seems> the laminations are about 1/4 to 3/8" thick, with the grain with circular> "smiles" that are back to back through the whole prop.> What's the poop on props?> Can everyone tell me what they know??> walt> -----------------------------------------------------> > > Walter,I followed the general technique in the back section of the 1933 F&GM reprint from the EAA and the prop plan from Orrin Hoopman. I have about 100 hours on that piet now and still like the prop. I covered the entire outboard half of the blade with fiberglass per instructions from (Gus Weibe) our local wood airplane guru. The fiber glass is much easier than brass tipping and can become invisible under high gloss Alkyd spar varnish from ACE. Doug Bryant Wichita Ks ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Walt, I've been using Eric Clutton's book and so far so good. Even if youwasn't going to carve a prop, it is still a really good one to add to thelibrary. He gives formulas and graph charts to figure out your pitch andsize for your HP. I'm going with a 70x48 for my corvair engine. Hoping I'llget a good climb and decent cruise.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Walt, I've been using Eric Clutton's book and so far so good. Even if youwasn't going to carve a prop, it is still a really good one to add to thelibrary. He gives formulas and graph charts to figure out your pitch andsize for your HP. I'm going with a 70x48 for my corvair engine. Hoping I'llget a good climb and decent cruise.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By:> Carl Loar
Carl, Though I have yet to start carving a prop for my corvair engine I believea more normal prop for it in a piet is around 66 x 33. Need to get therevs up in the 2800-3000 rpm range. A friend of mine building a piet tooksome photos of a corvair piet at Oshkosh a year or two ago and that is whatthe builder recommended. The guys at the corvaircraft list may have somebetter info. Wayne Sippola----------
Carl, Though I have yet to start carving a prop for my corvair engine I believea more normal prop for it in a piet is around 66 x 33. Need to get therevs up in the 2800-3000 rpm range. A friend of mine building a piet tooksome photos of a corvair piet at Oshkosh a year or two ago and that is whatthe builder recommended. The guys at the corvaircraft list may have somebetter info. Wayne Sippola----------
Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By: "Mckellars"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?In a message dated 4/26/01 12:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kgardner(at)odu.edu writes:>Wonder how a Pietenpol would handle in all that jet wash ??________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?In a message dated 4/26/01 12:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kgardner(at)odu.edu writes:>Wonder how a Pietenpol would handle in all that jet wash ??________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: can I please pick the brains of all prop carvers?
Original Posted By: "Jim Malley"
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