Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: "LAWRENCE WILLIAMS"
Hello PietersI have finally received my permission to build an Air Camper from the Swedish EAA and the document is now behind glass and a frame on my workshop wall. In other words, I am in business and I am currently working on the wing ribs.Last week I collected most of the wood needed for the aeroplane from a small sawmill. The man who runs the sawmill used to produce balsa sheets for the model hobby trade but he has more and more turned to saw wood for homebuilders. He has cut most of the wood I need from Swedish fir for around 700 USD. It is very convenient since he cuts it to the dimensions I need in inches, ready to use. Otherwise this is a strictly metric country. He is also familiar with the wood requirements for building aeroplanes so I expect to be able to use most of it. Of course, in the end, it is up to me to decide what wood to use and what to discard. But on the other hand, this man knows more about wood than I could learn in a lifetime.For a while I was thinking in terms of using a Subaru EA81 engine for the aeroplane and I was actually on my way to buy an old Subaru car to get it. But as things turned out I changed my mind and never bought it.Now my dreams are in the direction of diesel engines instead. I found the DAIR 100 on the web and I think it would be a great power source for the Air Camper. Unfortunately, I understand that the company has economical problems, but lets hope that they come into production. Go on and have a look at: http://www.dair.co.uk/Here in Sweden the winter is coming to an end now and the snow is slowly melting away. The days are becoming longer and spring is around the corner.Besides the Air Camper I am also working on the annual overhaul of our Ventus motorglider and I hope to be flying it again around Easter. I have also started to plan for our summer vacation and maybe we will go to England to have a look at their ships if they have any gathering around July or August. Lown slow.Jannica in SwedenHmta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt p http://explorer.msn.se/intl.asp________ ... __________
Hello PietersI have finally received my permission to build an Air Camper from the Swedish EAA and the document is now behind glass and a frame on my workshop wall. In other words, I am in business and I am currently working on the wing ribs.Last week I collected most of the wood needed for the aeroplane from a small sawmill. The man who runs the sawmill used to produce balsa sheets for the model hobby trade but he has more and more turned to saw wood for homebuilders. He has cut most of the wood I need from Swedish fir for around 700 USD. It is very convenient since he cuts it to the dimensions I need in inches, ready to use. Otherwise this is a strictly metric country. He is also familiar with the wood requirements for building aeroplanes so I expect to be able to use most of it. Of course, in the end, it is up to me to decide what wood to use and what to discard. But on the other hand, this man knows more about wood than I could learn in a lifetime.For a while I was thinking in terms of using a Subaru EA81 engine for the aeroplane and I was actually on my way to buy an old Subaru car to get it. But as things turned out I changed my mind and never bought it.Now my dreams are in the direction of diesel engines instead. I found the DAIR 100 on the web and I think it would be a great power source for the Air Camper. Unfortunately, I understand that the company has economical problems, but lets hope that they come into production. Go on and have a look at: http://www.dair.co.uk/Here in Sweden the winter is coming to an end now and the snow is slowly melting away. The days are becoming longer and spring is around the corner.Besides the Air Camper I am also working on the annual overhaul of our Ventus motorglider and I hope to be flying it again around Easter. I have also started to plan for our summer vacation and maybe we will go to England to have a look at their ships if they have any gathering around July or August. Lown slow.Jannica in SwedenHmta MSN Explorer kostnadsfritt p http://explorer.msn.se/intl.asp________ ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: Fisherman Caye
RE: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jannica, Good to hear your ship is coming together over there. That's apretty engine too. The only plane I saw on their web site was theirLuscombe. Wonder how many other planes that engine has flown. Also, how longdid it fly them?They didn't mention a lot of tests results or hours flown. For that kind ofdough, I think I'd like to see on a homebuilt with specs close to the piet.( Seeing it on a piet would be even better.)Good luck on your building.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Jannica, Good to hear your ship is coming together over there. That's apretty engine too. The only plane I saw on their web site was theirLuscombe. Wonder how many other planes that engine has flown. Also, how longdid it fly them?They didn't mention a lot of tests results or hours flown. For that kind ofdough, I think I'd like to see on a homebuilt with specs close to the piet.( Seeing it on a piet would be even better.)Good luck on your building.CarlPlease visit my website atwww.megsinet.net/skycarl-----Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: "Gary McNeel, Jr."
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: "Jannica Wunge"
Hi JanicaCongratulations on getting the go-ahead to build a Pietenpol. If you do cometo England in the summer, let me know when and I'll do my best to make sureyou see a few Piets. So far the only meetings we have planned are 19th Mayand 15th September (Battle of Britain day) but we are also planning a fewPiet BBQ's - dates to be advised.There a couple of UK sites that are worth watching for Piet news:www.solent-strut.co.uk and www.aiircamper.co.uk where you'll also find newsof a new aviation diesel motor.Regards, Alan James----- Original Message -----
Hi JanicaCongratulations on getting the go-ahead to build a Pietenpol. If you do cometo England in the summer, let me know when and I'll do my best to make sureyou see a few Piets. So far the only meetings we have planned are 19th Mayand 15th September (Battle of Britain day) but we are also planning a fewPiet BBQ's - dates to be advised.There a couple of UK sites that are worth watching for Piet news:www.solent-strut.co.uk and www.aiircamper.co.uk where you'll also find newsof a new aviation diesel motor.Regards, Alan James----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: Rick
Thanks Gary.....Glad to hear it !!!!--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Thanks Gary.....Glad to hear it !!!!--------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress report
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
[UNCLASSIFIED] Steve- was the latex paint webinar by Malcolm Morrison? I've gotto view that one. I've heard good things about it.I recall the red paint job that you, Steve & Freda Jones put on your old ChevySuburban in the blazing Texas heat. I think the paint was curing as soon as itleft the spray nozzle, so it's no surprise that the Suburban didn't end up lookingexactly like a Ferrari. It also might have helped if the masking tapewould have come off before the Texas sun permanently attached the adhesive toyour chrome trim ;o) It sure looked like y'all had fun painting that day though.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress report
[UNCLASSIFIED] Steve- was the latex paint webinar by Malcolm Morrison? I've gotto view that one. I've heard good things about it.I recall the red paint job that you, Steve & Freda Jones put on your old ChevySuburban in the blazing Texas heat. I think the paint was curing as soon as itleft the spray nozzle, so it's no surprise that the Suburban didn't end up lookingexactly like a Ferrari. It also might have helped if the masking tapewould have come off before the Texas sun permanently attached the adhesive toyour chrome trim ;o) It sure looked like y'all had fun painting that day though.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Progress report
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: danhelsper(at)aol.com
Rick; beautiful! Very nice work, smooth, and it must be immensely satisfying tosee it nearing the point of assembling everything into a real airplane. Justas food for thought, and looking at where you have reinforcements added forinspection covers, take a look at where NX41CC has them. I don't endorse theselocations, and there are a bunch of them on my airplane, but just think aboutplaces you may want to be able to get to or inspect in the future. Take a lookhere:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repair ... n.htmlWith the handheld inspection cameras that are available nowadays, some of theseinspection covers can certainly be dispensed with. However, I recently got myselfone of the Harbor Freight cheapie ones (limited coverage due to relativelyshort length of camera probe) and was a bit surprised to find that I couldn'texactly maneuver it down through the wing as easily as I thought I would beable to. Rib gussets and rib lacing presented quite an obstacle course for thelittle "camera on a snake" to weave through. In any case, you can always adda reinforcing ring and inspection cover if you need one later.Oh, and pay no attention to the fact that the centersection flop droops below thetrailing edge of the wing in the last photo on the webpage linked above. Ihave since added a solid stop to make sure that the TE of the flop lines up withthe TE of the main wings.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Rick; beautiful! Very nice work, smooth, and it must be immensely satisfying tosee it nearing the point of assembling everything into a real airplane. Justas food for thought, and looking at where you have reinforcements added forinspection covers, take a look at where NX41CC has them. I don't endorse theselocations, and there are a bunch of them on my airplane, but just think aboutplaces you may want to be able to get to or inspect in the future. Take a lookhere:http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/repair ... n.htmlWith the handheld inspection cameras that are available nowadays, some of theseinspection covers can certainly be dispensed with. However, I recently got myselfone of the Harbor Freight cheapie ones (limited coverage due to relativelyshort length of camera probe) and was a bit surprised to find that I couldn'texactly maneuver it down through the wing as easily as I thought I would beable to. Rib gussets and rib lacing presented quite an obstacle course for thelittle "camera on a snake" to weave through. In any case, you can always adda reinforcing ring and inspection cover if you need one later.Oh, and pay no attention to the fact that the centersection flop droops below thetrailing edge of the wing in the last photo on the webpage linked above. Ihave since added a solid stop to make sure that the TE of the flop lines up withthe TE of the main wings.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Original Posted By: Ken Bickers
Has anyone had experience with Matco Tail Wheels ?I'm thinking about either:Tthe 6" solid rubber composite tail wheel $170 overall height is 9.71 inches &weighs 4.75 pounds.The 6" Pneumatic $199. Overall height is 9.71 inches. This assembly with pneumatictire, tube, and wheel weighs 4.75 pounds.They are single arm as opposed to double arm which seems to be more durable andstable. But technology has advanced a lot. My concern is that with a singlearm if will tend to lean to the side.Thoughtshttp://www.matcomfg.com/CANTILEVEREDTAILWHEELA ... -------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matc ... ______Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:33:47 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
Has anyone had experience with Matco Tail Wheels ?I'm thinking about either:Tthe 6" solid rubber composite tail wheel $170 overall height is 9.71 inches &weighs 4.75 pounds.The 6" Pneumatic $199. Overall height is 9.71 inches. This assembly with pneumatictire, tube, and wheel weighs 4.75 pounds.They are single arm as opposed to double arm which seems to be more durable andstable. But technology has advanced a lot. My concern is that with a singlearm if will tend to lean to the side.Thoughtshttp://www.matcomfg.com/CANTILEVEREDTAILWHEELA ... -------Jim McWhorterN687MB (New Owner)Culpeper, VA KCJRRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/matc ... ______Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 09:33:47 -0600Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Progress report
> Re: Pietenpol-List: I found a great lumber yard in Houston
Original Posted By: clif
> >> >>> >>> >>Are you gonna keep it a secret? What's the name of the lumber yard?> >>> >>> >>>> >>>I found a lumber yard here in Houston with plenty of spar and> mast grade,> >>>vertical grain Douglas Fir and Sitka Spruce. Looked beautiful.> They will> >>>plane it to my specs. Not completely sure of the total cost,> but not too> >>>bad. Spruce is about $10 a linear foot or so. Also had up to 3mm Birch> >>>aircraft grade plywood. It seems to be equivalent to 1/8". Bought some,> very> >>>pretty stuff. Will that do for gussets.> >>>> >>>Some places are cheaper but I get to see what I am buying - I> like that.> >>>Also found a supplier of T-88. Called System Three and they> told me right> >>>where to go, which happened to be right across the freeway from where I> >>>work. Did a test glue-up and waiting to break it in a week of so and> look at> >>>failure point. It has been cold down here, got down to a whole> 27 degrees> >>>last night.
All-in-all a great day.> >>>> >>>Regards,> >>>> >>>Gary P. McNeel, Jr.> >>>MyKitPlane.com> >>>EAA 665957> >>>gmcneel(at)mykitplane.com> >>>http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildL ... PlaneID=43> >>>> >>>"What's the hurry? Are you afraid I won't come back?"> >>>> >>> Manfred von Richthofen, 'The Red Baron,' last recorded words,> in reply to> >>>a request for an autograph as he was climbing into the cockpit of his> plane.> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 00:50:48 -0800
> >> >>> >>> >>Are you gonna keep it a secret? What's the name of the lumber yard?> >>> >>> >>>> >>>I found a lumber yard here in Houston with plenty of spar and> mast grade,> >>>vertical grain Douglas Fir and Sitka Spruce. Looked beautiful.> They will> >>>plane it to my specs. Not completely sure of the total cost,> but not too> >>>bad. Spruce is about $10 a linear foot or so. Also had up to 3mm Birch> >>>aircraft grade plywood. It seems to be equivalent to 1/8". Bought some,> very> >>>pretty stuff. Will that do for gussets.> >>>> >>>Some places are cheaper but I get to see what I am buying - I> like that.> >>>Also found a supplier of T-88. Called System Three and they> told me right> >>>where to go, which happened to be right across the freeway from where I> >>>work. Did a test glue-up and waiting to break it in a week of so and> look at> >>>failure point. It has been cold down here, got down to a whole> 27 degrees> >>>last night.
