Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or NotThere is a big pile of ribs in the hangar, and I'm starting on the Center Section. The flop shown on the Scout plans would really be nice, since it opens up on the left side a little too. But that isn't compatible with the three piece wing. So the flop can only be about 28 inches wide. I could make it hinge like the ailerons, or it could be bigger and hinged at the rear spar. Any comments?Carl at Compton, with a varnished fuse and tail feathers!________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 13:33:43 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Original Posted By: ANNCARLEK(at)aol.com
I'm hinging mine at the rear spar on my GN-1. I'm 6'4" and need all the room Ican get. I've also raised my wing 2" via longer cabanes.DJ Veghwww.imagedv.com/aircamper ----- Original Message -----
I'm hinging mine at the rear spar on my GN-1. I'm 6'4" and need all the room Ican get. I've also raised my wing 2" via longer cabanes.DJ Veghwww.imagedv.com/aircamper ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or NotCarl,I built a flop for 41CC and it works well for a short tubby ole man, even built a 5/8 pipe step for help.Its built with metal brackets attached to the rear spar, a 1/2 in fake spar aft of the rear spar about 3 or 4 inches to allow sufficient room for pulleys, cables and turnbuckles. On this are attached two handles, left and right, to assist an ole tubby pilot for in and out. On the matching flop side are two oblong holes to pass these handles when the flop is down. This flop is piano hinged. Underneath it is secured in flying position with two common french door floor slide stops.On RePiet I am not building a flop as the fuse will be 28 in wde and the center section probably 32 in wide with slant cabane struts. It will have a cut out ala Mike Cuy and with those widths there should be no problem in or out for an ole tubby pilot.Hopes this helps and not confuse.Corky in La with completed wing and feather parts.P.S. One very important construction tip. On the round turtledeck aft of the rear cockpit be sure and double up the plywood surfaces so when you stand up to get out you may sit on the turtledeck, swing your legs around and slide down peacefully to Mother Earth without hearing some spltting, popping or cracking. BPH must have been some long legged Yankee.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or NotCarl,I built a flop for 41CC and it works well for a short tubby ole man, even built a 5/8 pipe step for help.Its built with metal brackets attached to the rear spar, a 1/2 in fake spar aft of the rear spar about 3 or 4 inches to allow sufficient room for pulleys, cables and turnbuckles. On this are attached two handles, left and right, to assist an ole tubby pilot for in and out. On the matching flop side are two oblong holes to pass these handles when the flop is down. This flop is piano hinged. Underneath it is secured in flying position with two common french door floor slide stops.On RePiet I am not building a flop as the fuse will be 28 in wde and the center section probably 32 in wide with slant cabane struts. It will have a cut out ala Mike Cuy and with those widths there should be no problem in or out for an ole tubby pilot.Hopes this helps and not confuse.Corky in La with completed wing and feather parts.P.S. One very important construction tip. On the round turtledeck aft of the rear cockpit be sure and double up the plywood surfaces so when you stand up to get out you may sit on the turtledeck, swing your legs around and slide down peacefully to Mother Earth without hearing some spltting, popping or cracking. BPH must have been some long legged Yankee.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Original Posted By: cat_designs(at)juno.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flop...or notI was going to build my cs with a flop extending one rib to the left asMike C. described, but in the end, I opted for no flop at all in favorof the weight savings. No cut out either after the talk about theerosion of flight performance. It seamed that I worked forever on that#%&* cs doing it the simple way. Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:19:18 GMTSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flop...or notI was going to build my cs with a flop extending one rib to the left asMike C. described, but in the end, I opted for no flop at all in favorof the weight savings. No cut out either after the talk about theerosion of flight performance. It seamed that I worked forever on that#%&* cs doing it the simple way. Leon S.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:19:18 GMTSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or Not
Original Posted By: "walter evans"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or NotI used strap hinges on mine,ended the c/s gap fairings at the rear spar and extended the flop 2" outboard on either side to within1/4" of the root rib. (leave room for the fabric) Total flop width 31". Flop locks with slide pins. Not a lot wider, but it makes a big difference in climbing in. And my cabanes have not been lengthened.Don ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: To Flop or NotI used strap hinges on mine,ended the c/s gap fairings at the rear spar and extended the flop 2" outboard on either side to within1/4" of the root rib. (leave room for the fabric) Total flop width 31". Flop locks with slide pins. Not a lot wider, but it makes a big difference in climbing in. And my cabanes have not been lengthened.Don ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop...or not
Original Posted By: "Leon Stefan"
Leon,Just a note to say that now that I am flying, there is no way that I couldget into my Piet with out the cutout. My wing is back 3" and I am 210#6'3".walt----- Original Message -----
Leon,Just a note to say that now that I am flying, there is no way that I couldget into my Piet with out the cutout. My wing is back 3" and I am 210#6'3".walt----- Original Message -----