Pietenpol-List: Hinges

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 08, 2000 11:52 am

Original Posted By: "John McNarry"
has anyone found a source for the cast aluminum hinges used in the tail section?Carl________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:15 am

Original Posted By: Matt Dralle

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:56 am

Original Posted By: "dave rowe"
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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:02 am

Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HingesI used the larger extruded aluminum piano hinges (A/C Spruce catalog). Except for the expense, they seem fine...But I haven't launched yet. I like the idea of being able to remove the aileron by pulling the pin (all six feet of it), but I neglected to relieve the aileron spar ENOUGH to compensate for the thickness of the hinge, consequently, the trailing edge of the aileron is abouta quarter of an inch aft of the trailing edge of the wing....good luck...Carl Vought________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:43 am

Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: HingesIn a message dated 11/10/03 12:46:04 AM Central Standard Time, rowed044(at)shaw.ca writes:>Dave,I used the plans hinges on the ailerons, then installed the ailerons, and bridged the gap with 3" edge tape. Simple, light, effective. I also came up with 'gapless hinges' for the empenage, that came directly from my R.C. days. I call it a 'Double Monocoat Hinge'. I have a sketch that I can e-mail you direct that makes it self explainatory.Chuck GantzerStill working on the accident report. NOT FUN at all, but it needs to be done.________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:02 pm

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I was told that there was someone selling aluminum fabricated hinges and such atBrodhead last Friday. I missed him, and I didn't see any of that kind of stuffon Saturday. Anyone know who this was? Is there a web site where I can checkout these doo-dads?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:21 pm

Original Posted By: shad bell

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:25 pm

Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Mark,>From what I remember they were selling for $70.00 a bag and there was probably 12 in a bag. not sure who was selling them.Jake"K5YAC" Sent by: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com07/30/2009 02:02 PMPlease respond topietenpol-list(at)matronics.comTopietenpol-list(at)matronics.comccSubjectPietenpol-List: HingesI was told that there was someone selling aluminum fabricated hinges and such at Brodhead last Friday. I missed him, and I didn't see any of that kind of stuff on Saturday. Anyone know who this was? Is there a web site where I can check out these doo-dads?--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______This email has been scanned for SPAM content and Viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System.________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:22:02 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:31 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,Attached is an image of one of those doo-dads. An individual by the name ofVi Kapler is the manufacturer, and I heard a rumor a while back that he mayhave e-mail. Meanwhile, this is the phone # I have, for evenings:507-288-3322.Good luck...they are worth it!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:55 pm

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Rats... I thought it might have been Vi Kapler. Would have liked to meet him.I'll probably give him a call. Thanks guys.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:20 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,I don't recall Vi being there, either. I'm with you...would have beennice....Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:04 pm

Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:26 pm

Original Posted By: Jim

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:47 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I bought a set of hinges from Vitalis Kappler.......Saves alot of time and hassle! Easy to mount, and work GREAT!Dave-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:54 pm

Original Posted By: "Dave Abramson"
Yep, I spoke to him earlier... he said he was there. Anyone interested in his hinges, they are currently $70 for 9 hinges... 3 for eachelevator half and 3 for the rudder. My check is in the mail.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:59 pm

Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
I don't know about B'head this year but a couple of years ago I bought a setof 9 CNC machined aluminum Pietenpol tail hinges (ready to bolt on andincluding the center pins) for $40 total from P.F. Beck who (I think) isbased out of North Carolina someplace. A recent post here listed hiscellphone as 803-259-6381. IIRC he and a buddy have access to CNC equipmentand aren't afraid to use it! Their hinges REALLY impressed me as highquality at an absurdly low price. I showed them to my CNC machinistco-workers at my then-employer (Steen Aero Lab) and they all guessed thehinges must have cost between $60 and $90 EACH... they all dang near blewhot coffee out their noses when I told them what I actually bought them for.VERY high quality stuff. Vi Kapler sells some cast hinges, I believe, I'mnot really familiar with them but I've been told that they take somefinishing work before use (could be wrong on that). I've heard very goodthings about both guys and their products so you probably won't go too farwrong either way. Hope this helps.-MikeMissin' Oshkosh, but at least I can watch/listen to it live online!Mike WhaleyMerlinFAC(at)cfl.rr.com----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:56 am

Original Posted By: "Dave Abramson"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: HingesThe person you want to talk to that was with PF Beck at Brodhead was Don Harper.Cell # 1-803-671-2983..His hinges are machined from solid stock and very high quality.He also has a oil separator that is very niceat a good price. I bought a set of light weight disk brake calipers that PF says works great. e-mail address- _Don_Harper(at)markivauto.com_ (mailto:Don_Harper(at)markivauto.com) Ted Stonebldg corvair powered Piet**************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! yExcfooterNO62)________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:08 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hey Ted!What Calipers are those? I am nearing that stage.....Cheers,Dave -----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:29 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Dave,Ted will know best, since he bought the calipers, but PF was saying that hemade his brakes from golf cart or go-kart brakes with discarded skill sawblades as the disc!! What a great idea!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:05 am

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Talk about a thrifty builder!!!!Thanks!Dave -----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:43 am

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:27 am

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Oh yeah, it is definitely runny at or around 100F. I actually like it that way...it is think enough to apply a good layer, but I think the thinner mix probablyabsorbs into the wood a little better. All the joints I've made from 65Fto 100F seem to be fine. My main concern was the life span of the stuff as itsits out on my workbench in a 120F hangar. From what I read, it should be finefor quite a while.I was at the airport for a bit last night and the two compounds seemed to be justfine. Thin, but no visual change. Oh, as far as properly mixing equal mixes of runny epoxy... that is tough. I useJim Markle's mixing chart by weight... works great.--------Mark - working on wingsRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:30:34 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:04 pm

Original Posted By: davea(at)symbolicdisplays.com
Subject: Fwd: Pietenpol-List: HingesDave, Ihad bought a set of cart calipers earlier but not installed. After I saw those that Ron Harper was selling. liked much better so I bought them. These are mechanical calopers.as was my first set.I am using a single handle bar to brake both wheels. PF Beck's disk are made from 14 "masonarry blades that were to be trashed,that's what he told me.Ted StoneBldg corvair Piet____________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:21 pm

Original Posted By: shad bell

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