Original Posted By: "John Dilatush"
Hi Guys,I am about to glue up the center section and was wondering as to whatperformance/handling concerns are there over the permanent circular cut outin the center section for easy pilot access, or the flop (temporary accesspanel of the complete centre section from the aileron spar position back tothe trailing edge).I think the circular center section cutout would be easier to build and oneless item on the take off check list.Any comments?CheersPeterWonthaggi,Victoria, Australia.http://www.cpc-world.com________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
my flop is hinged at the rear spar. It's a big flop but provides ALOT ofroom to get into and out of the plane. It has two latches (actual ANlatches) that secure it.lots of pics herehttp://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/01-26-04.htmDJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper________________________________________________________________________________
my flop is hinged at the rear spar. It's a big flop but provides ALOT ofroom to get into and out of the plane. It has two latches (actual ANlatches) that secure it.lots of pics herehttp://imagedv.com/aircamper/log/image-pages/01-26-04.htmDJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John,Perhaps the easiest way is to do without either flop or cut out and justkeep fit getting in and out!Thanks for the commentsCheersPeter.-----Original Message-----
John,Perhaps the easiest way is to do without either flop or cut out and justkeep fit getting in and out!Thanks for the commentsCheersPeter.-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
DJ,How do the aileron control cables route on a GN-1? I would have to start theflop at the alieron spar position as there is the control cable and pulleybetween that and the spar.CheersPeter.-----Original Message-----
DJ,How do the aileron control cables route on a GN-1? I would have to start theflop at the alieron spar position as there is the control cable and pulleybetween that and the spar.CheersPeter.-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
ahhhhhh good point. The GN1 has the ail cables run behind the front spar.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
ahhhhhh good point. The GN1 has the ail cables run behind the front spar.DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: "Ken Chambers" (by way of Matt Dralle )
Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
DJ,Real nice job!walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
DJ,Real nice job!walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
Peter,I had to move my wing back 3", and it's the only way I could get in. Alsothe view overhead would be completely blocked without it. This I need dueto busy skydiving operations at our airport.walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Peter,I had to move my wing back 3", and it's the only way I could get in. Alsothe view overhead would be completely blocked without it. This I need dueto busy skydiving operations at our airport.walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: FW: Pietenpol airfoil analysis
Original Posted By: Ken Chambers (by way of Matt Dralle )
OUTSTANDING!! I'm printing this out and keeping it with my contruction log ¬es. Who is Mike Shuck?DJ----- Original Message -----
OUTSTANDING!! I'm printing this out and keeping it with my contruction log ¬es. Who is Mike Shuck?DJ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: FW: Pietenpol airfoil analysis
Original Posted By: At7000ft(at)aol.com
Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge question
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge questionRick,I'll tell you how I did mine for Repiet: First I paired and numbered the hinges for I D. Then with various sized files I fitted each pair also sized theholes for 3/16 pins. THEN I located the hinge positions on each hinge beam. Withsharp chisels and drill bits I countersunk for each hinge half. Installed and bolted hinges. All this was done BEFORE assembling the surface parts. It's easier to use a drill press that way. When you finish your feathers it's all ready to hinge and almost ready to fly.Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge questionRick,I'll tell you how I did mine for Repiet: First I paired and numbered the hinges for I D. Then with various sized files I fitted each pair also sized theholes for 3/16 pins. THEN I located the hinge positions on each hinge beam. Withsharp chisels and drill bits I countersunk for each hinge half. Installed and bolted hinges. All this was done BEFORE assembling the surface parts. It's easier to use a drill press that way. When you finish your feathers it's all ready to hinge and almost ready to fly.Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge question
Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge questionRick,Forgot to mention: On the nut side of the beams fit and glue a 1/16 piece of ply to resist the bolting compression.Corky________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge questionRick,Forgot to mention: On the nut side of the beams fit and glue a 1/16 piece of ply to resist the bolting compression.Corky________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Thanks DJ, that explains that little problem.CheersPeter.-----Original Message-----
Thanks DJ, that explains that little problem.CheersPeter.-----Original Message-----
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Flop or not to flop?
Original Posted By: Les Schubert
Re: Pietenpol-List: tall pilots
Original Posted By: "Les Schubert"
well... I stretched my fuse and widened it. I pushed the rear seat backabout 2", moved the firewall forward 1.5" and moved the tail post back 1".I also widened the fuse 2" and the rear cockpit and widened it 1" at thefirewall. This gives me ALOT of room. The fit is amazingly comfortable!Makes sitting in a Super Cub feel like a sardine can..... which I can nowattest to as I have spent the last 4 days flying about 6 hours in a SuperCub as I am working on my tailwheel endorsement.My Aircamper is way more comfortable than that Cub. Remember... this isexperimental aviation and you can change whatever you like.... push pullstretch squeeze... whatever.. just make sure it's safe and go for it!DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
well... I stretched my fuse and widened it. I pushed the rear seat backabout 2", moved the firewall forward 1.5" and moved the tail post back 1".I also widened the fuse 2" and the rear cockpit and widened it 1" at thefirewall. This gives me ALOT of room. The fit is amazingly comfortable!Makes sitting in a Super Cub feel like a sardine can..... which I can nowattest to as I have spent the last 4 days flying about 6 hours in a SuperCub as I am working on my tailwheel endorsement.My Aircamper is way more comfortable than that Cub. Remember... this isexperimental aviation and you can change whatever you like.... push pullstretch squeeze... whatever.. just make sure it's safe and go for it!DJ VeghN74DVMesa, AZwww.imagedv.com/aircamper----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Tail feather hinge question
Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
>Would like anyones opinion on mounting elevator and rudder hinges....Rick,Heres a second vote for cutting a channel and insetting the hinges. This past winter I bought a set of hinges from Vi Kapler. I had seen differing ways to mount the hinges on various web sites, so I asked Vi how Bernie did it. He replied, Bernie Pietenpol chiseled out a pocket in the beam so that the base of the hinge is set flush with the surface of the beam. No plywood under the hinge base, but 1/16 ply is put under the nuts on the back side.Bruce________________________________________________________________________________
>Would like anyones opinion on mounting elevator and rudder hinges....Rick,Heres a second vote for cutting a channel and insetting the hinges. This past winter I bought a set of hinges from Vi Kapler. I had seen differing ways to mount the hinges on various web sites, so I asked Vi how Bernie did it. He replied, Bernie Pietenpol chiseled out a pocket in the beam so that the base of the hinge is set flush with the surface of the beam. No plywood under the hinge base, but 1/16 ply is put under the nuts on the back side.Bruce________________________________________________________________________________