Original Posted By: info(at)nationalairtour.org
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Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices Terrorism
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices Terrorism
Original Posted By: "John Ford"
It was given brief mention on Nightline last night.----- Original Message -----
It was given brief mention on Nightline last night.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices Terrorism
Original Posted By: John Ford
John, I have to disagree with you. NBC is looking to make their own news not reportit. This is a slap in the face to General Aviation. They continue to lookat the smaller aircraft that can only do relatively minor damage. Rememberthis started by Hijackers taking Large Airliners, NOT small helicoptors or Cessnas.Has NBC done a story on how easy it is to rent a Ryder truck???? Havethey done a story on how good the security is at your local bank? Put anotherway, If your dog poops on the floor do you spank your kids? My old junk pickupcan carry far more than a small aircraft and do considerable more damage.Have you been paying attention to Iraq, some of the major damage done thereare with car bombs. Cars not even trucks. I hope those two get some real jailtime and NBC get hit with some hefty fines.Jim Dallas----- Original Message -----
John, I have to disagree with you. NBC is looking to make their own news not reportit. This is a slap in the face to General Aviation. They continue to lookat the smaller aircraft that can only do relatively minor damage. Rememberthis started by Hijackers taking Large Airliners, NOT small helicoptors or Cessnas.Has NBC done a story on how easy it is to rent a Ryder truck???? Havethey done a story on how good the security is at your local bank? Put anotherway, If your dog poops on the floor do you spank your kids? My old junk pickupcan carry far more than a small aircraft and do considerable more damage.Have you been paying attention to Iraq, some of the major damage done thereare with car bombs. Cars not even trucks. I hope those two get some real jailtime and NBC get hit with some hefty fines.Jim Dallas----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices Terrorism
Original Posted By: "Michael Green"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices TerrorismAs a young person (25) it simply saddens me that our media giants feel it is necessary to scare their viewers. Why not run a story that makes people happy about airplanes, and life in general? Send an NBC reporter to the homeof anyone on this list who's actively building their airplane, and do a special on how aviation brings people closer together. Do a story about the community that is the local airport. Just do something that's intended to makepeople feel good, not scared. One more reason why all those evening "news journal" shows have no appeal to so many in my generation.I've yet to meet a person in aviation that I would consider to be a "bad" person. We're a small group in a land of so many, but I know that ours are some of the best people out there.-WayneEventually I'll build a Piet...________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices TerrorismAs a young person (25) it simply saddens me that our media giants feel it is necessary to scare their viewers. Why not run a story that makes people happy about airplanes, and life in general? Send an NBC reporter to the homeof anyone on this list who's actively building their airplane, and do a special on how aviation brings people closer together. Do a story about the community that is the local airport. Just do something that's intended to makepeople feel good, not scared. One more reason why all those evening "news journal" shows have no appeal to so many in my generation.I've yet to meet a person in aviation that I would consider to be a "bad" person. We're a small group in a land of so many, but I know that ours are some of the best people out there.-WayneEventually I'll build a Piet...________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices Terrorism
Original Posted By: "Stacy Clark"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices TerrorismIn a message dated 8/14/2004 8:39:13 PM Central Standard Time, Jford(at)indstate.edu writes:> I agree that NBC was trying to get a scoop. I'm not too surprised. NBC was trying to get a story on for SWEEPS. August is a rating period. Next SWEEPS is in November and then in February, again May. The vicious cycle repeats 4 times each year. We might have similar attempts by the media to this again. I spent a couple of decades working in television news and teaching it at a private university here in Texas. This is how this industry works. Do something sneaky and spectacular during SWEEPS, attract viewers ... boost ratings and sell advertising based on the audience numbers.If newsrooms were funded worth a crap by the mega-corporations that own them, then these guys would have been able to do actual research and reporting on actual problems instead of the "easy" story that doesn't cost anything but looks sexy. THAT's why TV news in America sucks so bad... Right on ... and another reason TV news is so bad is the FCC is allowing one corporate giant to own 2 TV stations in the same town, thus they now "share" their stories in order to be cheap. Television news is mostly entertainment these days and sadly, couch potatoes who only get their "news" from TV have difficulty separating the garbage they see in the news from the actual storiesthat might have some substance and ethical journalistic value. Edward R. Murrow, we need you now more than ever.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: NBC News Practices TerrorismIn a message dated 8/14/2004 8:39:13 PM Central Standard Time, Jford(at)indstate.edu writes:> I agree that NBC was trying to get a scoop. I'm not too surprised. NBC was trying to get a story on for SWEEPS. August is a rating period. Next SWEEPS is in November and then in February, again May. The vicious cycle repeats 4 times each year. We might have similar attempts by the media to this again. I spent a couple of decades working in television news and teaching it at a private university here in Texas. This is how this industry works. Do something sneaky and spectacular during SWEEPS, attract viewers ... boost ratings and sell advertising based on the audience numbers.If newsrooms were funded worth a crap by the mega-corporations that own them, then these guys would have been able to do actual research and reporting on actual problems instead of the "easy" story that doesn't cost anything but looks sexy. THAT's why TV news in America sucks so bad... Right on ... and another reason TV news is so bad is the FCC is allowing one corporate giant to own 2 TV stations in the same town, thus they now "share" their stories in order to be cheap. Television news is mostly entertainment these days and sadly, couch potatoes who only get their "news" from TV have difficulty separating the garbage they see in the news from the actual storiesthat might have some substance and ethical journalistic value. Edward R. Murrow, we need you now more than ever.________________________________________________________________________________
> > NATA Member SPECIAL NOTICE
Original Posted By: "Dennis Engelkenjohn"
> >> > **Special NATA Member Notice**> >> > ATTEMPTED SECURITY BREACH AT GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT> >> > In an effort to show allegedly lax security procedures, NBC News> > attempted to penetrate a charter helicopter operation at St. Louis> > Downtown Airport on Wednesday, August 11th.> >> > The attempt was brought to a halt, and the individuals were> > apprehended.> >> > Though this breach of security was stopped, it was indicated that NBC> > and other news agencies might attempt to repeat their efforts at other> > facilities around the country.> >> > NATA urges operators to continue to be on the alert for security> > breaches by news agencies "testing the waters" and, more importantly,> > actual terrorist organizations or individuals intent on doing harm.> >> > Operators nationwide are encouraged to review their security procedures> > and reinforce their security policies on a regular basis. NATA Members> > should review the TSA's Security Guidelines for General Aviation> > Airports> > (http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/edit ... l_1113.xml). Any> > suspicious activity should be reported immediately to the Airport Watch> > Hotline at (866) GA SECURE.> >> > The account of the August 11 incident, provided by the director of the> > St. Louis Downtown Airport follows:> >> > "Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate our> > security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and asked about a> > charter flight. After discussion of price and directions to the> > business, they arrived an hour later. When the office agent asked how> > they were going to pay for the flight they produced cash. When asked for> > ID, they produced driver's licenses from two different states and they> > were driving a car licensed in a third state.> >> > Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them into the hangar to> > see the aircraft while the office person called the FBI and local> > police. The helicopter they were going to fly was blocked in by other> > aircraft so the mechanic was able to stall them by having to slowly> > shuffle the blocking planes. Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks> > and odd-shaped luggage out of their car. Soon the local police arrived> > and they were hauled off to jail in handcuffs.> >> > After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the two men were> > employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get a story of how> > easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist attack. The men had> > stayed in a local hotel and purchased box cutters, leather-man knives,> > and other potential weapons at the local Wal-Mart using a credit card.> > The box cutters had been hidden in the lining at the bottom of the> > backpacks and the other weapons were hidden throughout their baggage.> > They had audio taped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were> > going to use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to> > get information and directions to the location of the helicopter and> > then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack.> >> > I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a story that> > will never be seen since they were caught. A very "well-done" to my FBO> > and staff and the local FBI and police response forces. We have since> > learned that we were the first airport where this had been attempted and> > NBC planned to attempt similar penetration stories around the country.> > Please help me spread the word to other airports."> >> > For additional information contact:> >> > Beth Van Emburgh Manager, Government & Industry Affairs> > bvanemburgh@nata-online.org> > To unsubscribe from these newsletters please click here> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >________________________________________________________________________________
> >> > **Special NATA Member Notice**> >> > ATTEMPTED SECURITY BREACH AT GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT> >> > In an effort to show allegedly lax security procedures, NBC News> > attempted to penetrate a charter helicopter operation at St. Louis> > Downtown Airport on Wednesday, August 11th.> >> > The attempt was brought to a halt, and the individuals were> > apprehended.> >> > Though this breach of security was stopped, it was indicated that NBC> > and other news agencies might attempt to repeat their efforts at other> > facilities around the country.> >> > NATA urges operators to continue to be on the alert for security> > breaches by news agencies "testing the waters" and, more importantly,> > actual terrorist organizations or individuals intent on doing harm.> >> > Operators nationwide are encouraged to review their security procedures> > and reinforce their security policies on a regular basis. NATA Members> > should review the TSA's Security Guidelines for General Aviation> > Airports> > (http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/edit ... l_1113.xml). Any> > suspicious activity should be reported immediately to the Airport Watch> > Hotline at (866) GA SECURE.> >> > The account of the August 11 incident, provided by the director of the> > St. Louis Downtown Airport follows:> >> > "Earlier today two Middle Eastern men attempted to penetrate our> > security. They telephoned one of my helicopter FBOs and asked about a> > charter flight. After discussion of price and directions to the> > business, they arrived an hour later. When the office agent asked how> > they were going to pay for the flight they produced cash. When asked for> > ID, they produced driver's licenses from two different states and they> > were driving a car licensed in a third state.> >> > Things didn't smell right so the mechanic took them into the hangar to> > see the aircraft while the office person called the FBI and local> > police. The helicopter they were going to fly was blocked in by other> > aircraft so the mechanic was able to stall them by having to slowly> > shuffle the blocking planes. Meanwhile the two men got their backpacks> > and odd-shaped luggage out of their car. Soon the local police arrived> > and they were hauled off to jail in handcuffs.> >> > After a little time behind bars, the FBI verified that the two men were> > employed by NBC New York and were on assignment to get a story of how> > easy it is to charter a helicopter for a terrorist attack. The men had> > stayed in a local hotel and purchased box cutters, leather-man knives,> > and other potential weapons at the local Wal-Mart using a credit card.> > The box cutters had been hidden in the lining at the bottom of the> > backpacks and the other weapons were hidden throughout their baggage.> > They had audio taped the telephone conversation with Arlene and were> > going to use it as part of a national news story about how easy it is to> > get information and directions to the location of the helicopter and> > then hijack it to commit a terrorist attack.> >> > I doubt they will be back at our airport soon and this is a story that> > will never be seen since they were caught. A very "well-done" to my FBO> > and staff and the local FBI and police response forces. We have since> > learned that we were the first airport where this had been attempted and> > NBC planned to attempt similar penetration stories around the country.> > Please help me spread the word to other airports."> >> > For additional information contact:> >> > Beth Van Emburgh Manager, Government & Industry Affairs> > bvanemburgh@nata-online.org> > To unsubscribe from these newsletters please click here> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >________________________________________________________________________________