Original Posted By: Larry Nelson
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Re: Pietenpol-List: Another dumb question!
Original Posted By: "Larry Nelson"
I suppose "micro" can be defined a number of ways....but one common "microtransponder" used on Sailplanes is made by Microair. Nice small unit thatdoes the job but of course draws some fairly serious current and weighs 3pounds and cost approx $1500. If I'm spending time grinding off all thoselittle epoxy drips to save weight....I'm SURE not putting 3 pounds oftransponder and the required battery in MY Piet!! :-)Sure would be nice though....http://www.eglider.org/catalog/items/item324.htmJM----- Original Message -----
I suppose "micro" can be defined a number of ways....but one common "microtransponder" used on Sailplanes is made by Microair. Nice small unit thatdoes the job but of course draws some fairly serious current and weighs 3pounds and cost approx $1500. If I'm spending time grinding off all thoselittle epoxy drips to save weight....I'm SURE not putting 3 pounds oftransponder and the required battery in MY Piet!! :-)Sure would be nice though....http://www.eglider.org/catalog/items/item324.htmJM----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Another dumb question!
Original Posted By: Larry Nelson
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: Larry Nelson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???Larry:Buy a BYOP shirt and you'll get a free "solo propping guide" with your purchase.www.byop.us________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:55:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???Larry:Buy a BYOP shirt and you'll get a free "solo propping guide" with your purchase.www.byop.us________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:55:29 -0700 (PDT)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi LarryI would suggest that you not hand prop an airplane with out anexperienced pilot in the cockpit unless the tail is tied to somethingimmovable.Some folks do this by using a long rope tied with slip knots so that youcan give the tail of the knot a tug and undo the knot after you are inthe aircraft.I am not very good at explaining knots, but it can be done. Once the tail is free you pull in the rope and stow it in a small stringbag in the cockpit ready for the next start.John-----Original Message-----
Hi LarryI would suggest that you not hand prop an airplane with out anexperienced pilot in the cockpit unless the tail is tied to somethingimmovable.Some folks do this by using a long rope tied with slip knots so that youcan give the tail of the knot a tug and undo the knot after you are inthe aircraft.I am not very good at explaining knots, but it can be done. Once the tail is free you pull in the rope and stow it in a small stringbag in the cockpit ready for the next start.John-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: TomTravis(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???In a message dated 8/20/04 8:18:21 AM Central Daylight Time, lnelson208(at)yahoo.com writes:>Larry, Sorry I didn't give you a ride at Brodhead, but I'm still getting used to the flight characteristics of the heavier weights. The heaviest weight passenger I've had so far, was 185 lbs, with full fuel. My ship weighs 630 lbs,and I weigh 200 to 210 lbs. The climb rate is what suffers dramatically, and while landing, I've learned to leave just a little bit of power in, through theround out and flair. I much prefer having an experienced propper (is propper a word ?) handle the business end, while I'm strapped in, with brakes set. However, I launch my plane solo, much more often than I have a helper, and I've probably done itmaybe 80 or 100 times. Ya gotta really have a lot of respect for that prop, and sometimes I even talk to it : "OK, your're not going to hurt me today, areyou ?" Props give me the Hiebie Jiebie's. As for my solo launching technique, here is how I do it. I always launch from the grass, when solo. I carry chalks in the glove box, in the frontpit. After a thorough pre-flight inspection, chalk both wheels, pull the stickback in the seat belt, fuel on, engine idle, mags OFF. While still standing on the left side, still leaning into the cockpit, I say out loud "Fuel on, engine idle, stick back, mags off, and it's in the chalks". I then walk aroundand pull six blades through, assuming each blade will start the engine. Whenever you pull a prop through, you MUST assume the engine will START. I thenwalk back around and turn the mags ON, and repeat out loud, as I touch each item with my finger "Fuel on, engine idle, stick back, mags HOT, and it's in the chalks". Then I walk back around, and the blade is up on compression, in aboutthe 11 O'clock position. Left hand pinky finger is half way out the blade, andjust barley let my fingertips go up over the trailing edge of the prop, maybe just to my finger prints...NOT to the first joint. Feet back, look aroundto my right side to be sure the area is clear, swing right leg forward, and asI swing my right leg back, pull the blade through. The weight of my leg pullsmy body out of the biting range of the prop, as well as allows the first step back away from the prop. Once the engine starts, usually the first of second blade, I briskly walk back around the left wing tip, and crouch down to the cockpit, and allow my right arm pit to rest on the top of the left longeron. The first thing I do at the cockpit, it to just barley crack the throttle open,then watch the oil pressure gauge. It seems like forever to get the engine's blood pumping. Power up to 800 or 1000 for a short period, then go back around the tail to remove the right chalk, staying behind the front lift strut,then come back around the tail and remove the left chalk, watching for the planeto creep...this is why I launch from the grass...it WILL creep on the hard surface, but not the grass. Stow the chalks, climb in, strap 'er on, and holdthe brakes for another brief power up. A couple of things that happened to me: Two years ago, I forgot to pull the stick back in the seat belt, and the engine started, and as I was running around the left wing tip, the tail was coming up, and I just barley caught it in time, before the prop tips touched. Two other times, as I was climbing in,my left knee touched the power lever, and YEE HAAW...we're off to the races, and I'm not even in the seat yet !!! Luckily, these occasions turned out to be lessons, and not incidents.Chuck GantzerNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???In a message dated 8/20/04 8:18:21 AM Central Daylight Time, lnelson208(at)yahoo.com writes:>Larry, Sorry I didn't give you a ride at Brodhead, but I'm still getting used to the flight characteristics of the heavier weights. The heaviest weight passenger I've had so far, was 185 lbs, with full fuel. My ship weighs 630 lbs,and I weigh 200 to 210 lbs. The climb rate is what suffers dramatically, and while landing, I've learned to leave just a little bit of power in, through theround out and flair. I much prefer having an experienced propper (is propper a word ?) handle the business end, while I'm strapped in, with brakes set. However, I launch my plane solo, much more often than I have a helper, and I've probably done itmaybe 80 or 100 times. Ya gotta really have a lot of respect for that prop, and sometimes I even talk to it : "OK, your're not going to hurt me today, areyou ?" Props give me the Hiebie Jiebie's. As for my solo launching technique, here is how I do it. I always launch from the grass, when solo. I carry chalks in the glove box, in the frontpit. After a thorough pre-flight inspection, chalk both wheels, pull the stickback in the seat belt, fuel on, engine idle, mags OFF. While still standing on the left side, still leaning into the cockpit, I say out loud "Fuel on, engine idle, stick back, mags off, and it's in the chalks". I then walk aroundand pull six blades through, assuming each blade will start the engine. Whenever you pull a prop through, you MUST assume the engine will START. I thenwalk back around and turn the mags ON, and repeat out loud, as I touch each item with my finger "Fuel on, engine idle, stick back, mags HOT, and it's in the chalks". Then I walk back around, and the blade is up on compression, in aboutthe 11 O'clock position. Left hand pinky finger is half way out the blade, andjust barley let my fingertips go up over the trailing edge of the prop, maybe just to my finger prints...NOT to the first joint. Feet back, look aroundto my right side to be sure the area is clear, swing right leg forward, and asI swing my right leg back, pull the blade through. The weight of my leg pullsmy body out of the biting range of the prop, as well as allows the first step back away from the prop. Once the engine starts, usually the first of second blade, I briskly walk back around the left wing tip, and crouch down to the cockpit, and allow my right arm pit to rest on the top of the left longeron. The first thing I do at the cockpit, it to just barley crack the throttle open,then watch the oil pressure gauge. It seems like forever to get the engine's blood pumping. Power up to 800 or 1000 for a short period, then go back around the tail to remove the right chalk, staying behind the front lift strut,then come back around the tail and remove the left chalk, watching for the planeto creep...this is why I launch from the grass...it WILL creep on the hard surface, but not the grass. Stow the chalks, climb in, strap 'er on, and holdthe brakes for another brief power up. A couple of things that happened to me: Two years ago, I forgot to pull the stick back in the seat belt, and the engine started, and as I was running around the left wing tip, the tail was coming up, and I just barley caught it in time, before the prop tips touched. Two other times, as I was climbing in,my left knee touched the power lever, and YEE HAAW...we're off to the races, and I'm not even in the seat yet !!! Luckily, these occasions turned out to be lessons, and not incidents.Chuck GantzerNX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: TomTravis(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???Guys,When you decide to hand prop your plane and tie the tail down, just be sure it isn't to a fuel truck that might drive away in the middle of the night. Thisis what happens when you do. Whitehorse, Y.T. Tom Travis________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???Guys,When you decide to hand prop your plane and tie the tail down, just be sure it isn't to a fuel truck that might drive away in the middle of the night. Thisis what happens when you do. Whitehorse, Y.T. Tom Travis________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: "Christian Bobka"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???More.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???More.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Solo propping techniques???
Original Posted By: "Jim Markle"
Truck driver probably thought "Why the hell is that Cub backing up so fast!!"Larry Ragan Jacksonville, Fl. lragan(at)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Truck driver probably thought "Why the hell is that Cub backing up so fast!!"Larry Ragan Jacksonville, Fl. lragan(at)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: I'm gonna make some copies of the old BPA newsletters...
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Oh yeah.....I uploaded maybe two issues....I have a stack of double sidedpages about 1 1/2" high....... there's a load of them....really goodstuff....J----- Original Message -----
Oh yeah.....I uploaded maybe two issues....I have a stack of double sidedpages about 1 1/2" high....... there's a load of them....really goodstuff....J----- Original Message -----