Original Posted By: "Ted Brousseau"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Two Air Camper projects for saleI'm planning on putting my Pietenpol project AND my GN-1 project on Ebay the middle of this month. Prior to doing that, FOR POTENTIAL BUYERS ONLY, I'm willing to snail-mail a picture CD to anyone who would like to see these projectAir Campers.This IS NOT an attempt to solicit bids in advance of, or in lieu of placing these projects on Ebay. I am only attempting to get pictures into the hands ofqualified and interested parties in a timely fashion so that folks can have enough time to ponder a purchase.The projects will be listed separately and I anticipate starting the bids at $20 with NO RESERVE. The winning Ebay bidder will have to arrange to pick up the Pietenpol or GN-1 in Central Texas, most likely at Abilene Regional Airport.Both projects are on gear legs and can easily be rolled up on a flatbed trailer. The wings for the Pietenpol need to be pampered and I would recommendhauling them on a trailer similar to a trailer I designed for hauling both a fuselage and wings. (I can send pictures of my trailer *** NOT FOR SALE *** soyou can have an idea of how I managed to haul airplanes and the wings across the USA for the last 15 years.) Feel free to copy my trailer design. It safely hauls the wings without a lot of risk to fabric or structure.The Pietenpol (N1195P) was built by Bob Linton of Mineral Bluff, Georgia. His original ad is still on Grant's website, having been posted a couple of years ago. Mr. Linton advised in the ad that his Pietenpol had never been flown but had been through the FSDO process and had an airworthiness certificate.I bought this airplane in October of this year. When I got it home and began doing an annual inspection, it became evident that it was necessary to cut allthe fabric off of the fuselage for several reasons. I found that Mr. Linton had not installed gussets inside the fuselage as per plans and there were serious rust issues with metal parts that he never bothered to prime or paint.Also, there are some wood-delamination issues with the plywood panels on the bottom of the fuselage. One wing also has been stripped of fabric and we foundsome bare-metal parts covered with surface rust inside the wing, as well as theimproper use of pal-nuts in place of stop-nuts and a faulty repair to a rib. (The rib is OK, it's just needs to be repaired according to recognized methods.The rib appears to have been broken by a hailstone.)The engine was advertised as having only 5 hours SMOH. It too was in bad need of repair after I removed a cylinder and found evidence of a slipshod overhaul. The engine however will not be sold with the rest of the airplane becauseI have spent a small fortune having the case rebuilt at DIVCO, new $500 camshaft, crankshaft and new bearings, not to mention other $$$ being spent torebuild the engine. As a result, I'll have a Continental engine out of the dealthat looks as pristine as the day it left the factory.The GN-1 project was purchased in March from D.J. Vegh. You can find info on through D.J.s website (and while you are on D.J.s website, send him a donation, as I have done for use of his really, really informative and helpfulwebsite...)Further details about these projects can be obtained by e-mailing me at; STERLING(at)PGRB.COM or through N321TX(at)wmconnect.com. I can begin sending pictureCDs on 9-8.I'll send out a very detailed description of N1195P as best as I can honestly describe it. IS IT REPAIRABLE? In my opinion yes, I just am in a rush to get airborne and I don't have a lot of free time due to several circumstances at the present time. I'm trying to get my 85 year old dad flying in an open cockpit airplane for a few more adventures before he is unable to climb out ofa chair. My dad has been fighting a battle with colon cancer and now liver cancer,and we have many old Army Air Corp bases to visit around here before the sun sets on his pilot's log book. Thats why I'm in a big rush and can't keep theseAir Camper projects.Thanks,Sterling Brooks________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Two Air Camper projects for sale
Re: Pietenpol-List: Two Air Camper projects for sale
Original Posted By: Don Morris
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Two Air Camper projects for saleI've had a number of requests already for picture CDs of the two Air Campers I'll be putting on Ebay late this month. In addition to mailing the CD containing pictures, I'll include a copy of the letter I sent to the builder of N1195P expressing my concern about missing parts and the condition of the airplane after all the fabric was stripped off,and partial disassembly of the airplane.I'll also include some other notes I sent to the Atlanta FSDO about the condition of N1195P. Also to be included will be several e-mails from the builderstating the condition of the airplane prior to the sale. I'm trying to put allmy cards on the table, so to speak, so interested parties will have enough info about the Pietenpol.I feel that by including this information and the pictures, I can represent this "project" Pietenpol as honestly and fairly as possible. It is my goal to be as ethical about this project as I can, because I believe in the Golden Rule, despite the fact that the chap who built N1195P was deceptive in his representation during my transaction in October. The airplane was represented tome as having been "stored inside" in a fashion that protected it from the environment. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:51:36 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Two Air Camper projects for saleI've had a number of requests already for picture CDs of the two Air Campers I'll be putting on Ebay late this month. In addition to mailing the CD containing pictures, I'll include a copy of the letter I sent to the builder of N1195P expressing my concern about missing parts and the condition of the airplane after all the fabric was stripped off,and partial disassembly of the airplane.I'll also include some other notes I sent to the Atlanta FSDO about the condition of N1195P. Also to be included will be several e-mails from the builderstating the condition of the airplane prior to the sale. I'm trying to put allmy cards on the table, so to speak, so interested parties will have enough info about the Pietenpol.I feel that by including this information and the pictures, I can represent this "project" Pietenpol as honestly and fairly as possible. It is my goal to be as ethical about this project as I can, because I believe in the Golden Rule, despite the fact that the chap who built N1195P was deceptive in his representation during my transaction in October. The airplane was represented tome as having been "stored inside" in a fashion that protected it from the environment. ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 10:51:36 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding
Original Posted By: Mike Luther
Re: Pietenpol-List: welding
Original Posted By: David Esslinger
Dave,I built two projects under the watchful eye of my AP mentor. He's from the oldschool (the late Leo Loudenschlager's AP) and he's strictly a OA guy. Hecringes at TIG, but says it's OK if normalized with a flame.walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
Dave,I built two projects under the watchful eye of my AP mentor. He's from the oldschool (the late Leo Loudenschlager's AP) and he's strictly a OA guy. Hecringes at TIG, but says it's OK if normalized with a flame.walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----