Original Posted By: George T. Alexander, Jr.
walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035
Original Posted By: "Gordon Bowen"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035OK, so if I have an Air Camper in my backyard (I live on a farm and have my own runway and a hanger out back) and if this bill passes, I'm supposed to callthe Feds, ask them to drive 52 miles out here to my rural location in Hicksville, TX and look at my plane and paperwork, EACH TIME before I can takeoff to look for a few head of cattle on Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch? I guess I'll call the Feds in late October (Halloween) and dress up as migratory sheep herder from Smellbadistan, just to get the Feds fired up when theyarrive at the gate to my ranchito. When the TSA guys get to my place, I'll tellthem this is how I dress up when I herd my farm animals on my ranch from a two seater wooden Air Camper.Hmm, now if I understand it, the sponsor of this bill doesn't want me flying my Cherokee 140 over a city of more than a million people (NYC) but its OK to fly over El Paso, >less than 1 mil? Is that to say the sponsor of the bill thinks that people in smaller communities are less significant than people in Chicago, or Phoenix or Houston? This really stinks. I think this Congressman needs to go to Smellbadistan so he can duke it out with the real bad guys, not plane people like experimenters and GA.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035OK, so if I have an Air Camper in my backyard (I live on a farm and have my own runway and a hanger out back) and if this bill passes, I'm supposed to callthe Feds, ask them to drive 52 miles out here to my rural location in Hicksville, TX and look at my plane and paperwork, EACH TIME before I can takeoff to look for a few head of cattle on Knot-2-Shabby Airport & Texas Longhorn Cattle Ranch? I guess I'll call the Feds in late October (Halloween) and dress up as migratory sheep herder from Smellbadistan, just to get the Feds fired up when theyarrive at the gate to my ranchito. When the TSA guys get to my place, I'll tellthem this is how I dress up when I herd my farm animals on my ranch from a two seater wooden Air Camper.Hmm, now if I understand it, the sponsor of this bill doesn't want me flying my Cherokee 140 over a city of more than a million people (NYC) but its OK to fly over El Paso, >less than 1 mil? Is that to say the sponsor of the bill thinks that people in smaller communities are less significant than people in Chicago, or Phoenix or Houston? This really stinks. I think this Congressman needs to go to Smellbadistan so he can duke it out with the real bad guys, not plane people like experimenters and GA.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035
Original Posted By: N321TX(at)wmconnect.com
This posting re this proposed bill has already made the rounds of several otheruser group sites. Couple comments I saw, 1) Mr. Wiener is a relatively youngunimportant House member from NY trying to keep his job by hyping his bill asprotecting his NY constituency, fur-git-a-bout-it, it's just hot air politicsas usual, in a season of lots of hot air, 2) It doesn't have a chance of gettingout of subcomittee, let alone, make it's way thru the entire Congress onto the Pres for signing.Gordon BowenN1033B ----- Original Message -----
This posting re this proposed bill has already made the rounds of several otheruser group sites. Couple comments I saw, 1) Mr. Wiener is a relatively youngunimportant House member from NY trying to keep his job by hyping his bill asprotecting his NY constituency, fur-git-a-bout-it, it's just hot air politicsas usual, in a season of lots of hot air, 2) It doesn't have a chance of gettingout of subcomittee, let alone, make it's way thru the entire Congress onto the Pres for signing.Gordon BowenN1033B ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035
Original Posted By: Gordon Bowen
But if just ONE important House member does sign on, this bill could cause a lotof heart burn for GA.Cy GalleySafety Programs EditorAlways looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message -----
But if just ONE important House member does sign on, this bill could cause a lotof heart burn for GA.Cy GalleySafety Programs EditorAlways looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw: HR 5035
Original Posted By: "cgalley"
The only way this bill was going to make it to the floor this year is if it wastacked on to a larger aviation securitybill. Congressman Weiner spoke to the aviation subcommittee Wedenesday and saidthat he had a long conversationwith another subcommittee member, Congressman Boswell of Iowa who is a pilot andAOPA member, and thatRep Boswell had enlightened him to what the term "General Aviation" entails ona national basis. It seems Rep Weinerwas concerned about the tourist helicopters in the NYC area. He was quite concernedabout the fact that they cantake off and land as they please without talking to FAA and that they take unscreenedpassengers around the areaon a daily basis. That is what prompted him to present the bill. This bill aswritten was set aside by the aviationsubcommittee, with Congressman Weiner's concerns duly noted.It really makes you wonder what kind of credentials are needed to serve on theaviation subcommittee. This guydidn't have a clue to the far-reaching impact of the bill he had proposed. Youwould think he would have at leastdone his homework first...-Mike McCarty----- Original Message -----
The only way this bill was going to make it to the floor this year is if it wastacked on to a larger aviation securitybill. Congressman Weiner spoke to the aviation subcommittee Wedenesday and saidthat he had a long conversationwith another subcommittee member, Congressman Boswell of Iowa who is a pilot andAOPA member, and thatRep Boswell had enlightened him to what the term "General Aviation" entails ona national basis. It seems Rep Weinerwas concerned about the tourist helicopters in the NYC area. He was quite concernedabout the fact that they cantake off and land as they please without talking to FAA and that they take unscreenedpassengers around the areaon a daily basis. That is what prompted him to present the bill. This bill aswritten was set aside by the aviationsubcommittee, with Congressman Weiner's concerns duly noted.It really makes you wonder what kind of credentials are needed to serve on theaviation subcommittee. This guydidn't have a clue to the far-reaching impact of the bill he had proposed. Youwould think he would have at leastdone his homework first...-Mike McCarty----- Original Message -----