Original Posted By: Don Morris
If a private pilot is in need of renewing his or her 3rd Class Medical, and ifthat same pilot is now taking blood pressure medication for BP that is a tad high,not to mention Lipitor for goo in the blood, and if the 3rd Class is deniedby the FAA because by law, the new medication has to be reported (because tis a felony not to report the new meds) the way I read the regs, is that pilotCAN'T fly under the new Sport Pilot LSA class.The regs seem to suggest if you blow the physical, you can't use your drivers licenseto suggest you are healthy enough to fly under the LSA.The way I see keeping this simple, is to NOT take the 3rd Class physical and simplyfly under the LSA regs, with your driver's license allowing for the LSA andeveryone is happy (right)...Sterling________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:35:04 -0600
Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: Wizzard187(at)AOL.COM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)If a private pilot is in need of renewing his or her 3rd Class Medical, andif that same pilot is now taking blood pressure medication for BP that is atad high, not to mention Lipitor for goo in the blood, and if the 3rd Classis denied by the FAA because by law, the new medication has to be reported(because t is a felony not to report the new meds) the way I read theregs, is that pilot CAN'T fly under the new Sport Pilot LSA class.The regs seem to suggest if you blow the physical, you can't use yourdrivers license to suggest you are healthy enough to fly under the LSA.The way I see keeping this simple, is to NOT take the 3rd Class physicaland simply fly under the LSA regs, with your driver's license allowing forthe LSA and everyone is happy (right)...Sterling________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)If a private pilot is in need of renewing his or her 3rd Class Medical, andif that same pilot is now taking blood pressure medication for BP that is atad high, not to mention Lipitor for goo in the blood, and if the 3rd Classis denied by the FAA because by law, the new medication has to be reported(because t is a felony not to report the new meds) the way I read theregs, is that pilot CAN'T fly under the new Sport Pilot LSA class.The regs seem to suggest if you blow the physical, you can't use yourdrivers license to suggest you are healthy enough to fly under the LSA.The way I see keeping this simple, is to NOT take the 3rd Class physicaland simply fly under the LSA regs, with your driver's license allowing forthe LSA and everyone is happy (right)...Sterling________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: Don Morris
Don:Thanks, I'll tell my "friend" and he or she will be very grateful for your opinionon this subject.Sterling ----- Original Message -----
Don:Thanks, I'll tell my "friend" and he or she will be very grateful for your opinionon this subject.Sterling ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: Don Morris
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: "Sterling"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)Sterling,As I learned a long time ago when I was a little boy in the Army. "Don't volunteer for ANYTHING" and he who asks questions gets answers, usually Not theone he wants.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)Sterling,As I learned a long time ago when I was a little boy in the Army. "Don't volunteer for ANYTHING" and he who asks questions gets answers, usually Not theone he wants.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
You are correct. When I volunteered for the Army, a few months after I had beenin, I again volunteered to go to Vietnam to shoot film cameras. All the Sergeantheard me say was "go to Vietnam and shoot..." Ended up in Vietnam shootingM-60 machine guns on the back end of convoys hauling JP-4 (Jet Fuel) and mycompany, was called "The Crispy Critters." I now only volunteer to be the first guy in line for chow these days, or if anyoneasks "Anybody for a beer?" I volunteer for that... ----- Original Message -----
You are correct. When I volunteered for the Army, a few months after I had beenin, I again volunteered to go to Vietnam to shoot film cameras. All the Sergeantheard me say was "go to Vietnam and shoot..." Ended up in Vietnam shootingM-60 machine guns on the back end of convoys hauling JP-4 (Jet Fuel) and mycompany, was called "The Crispy Critters." I now only volunteer to be the first guy in line for chow these days, or if anyoneasks "Anybody for a beer?" I volunteer for that... ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: "Sterling"
What's been said is mostly correct. Two comments:My understanding about the "I busted my 3rd class and now need a waiver" process is that it run through the same channels and people as the special issuance...so it's possible, but not likely to be an easy row to hoe.And unfortunately, the FAA (as always) has an out (or a Catch-22, if you prefer) - the FAA document I read about the LSA medical referred rather pointedly to 61.53 and 61.23 - which essentially infers that you cannot operate an aircraft while taking (most) prescription drugs. Take a look at:http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificate ... ots/...for more information. Not good information, but there.Sorry.....Richard T. Perry perryrt(at)hotmail.com"Fraser, there's a guy on my corner who asks me everymorning if I've seen God; do you really think heexpects me to point Him out?""Well, you know, Ray, if you did, perhaps he'd stopasking."Ray Vecchio and Benton Fraser, "Hawk and a Handsaw", Due_South________________________________________________________________________________
What's been said is mostly correct. Two comments:My understanding about the "I busted my 3rd class and now need a waiver" process is that it run through the same channels and people as the special issuance...so it's possible, but not likely to be an easy row to hoe.And unfortunately, the FAA (as always) has an out (or a Catch-22, if you prefer) - the FAA document I read about the LSA medical referred rather pointedly to 61.53 and 61.23 - which essentially infers that you cannot operate an aircraft while taking (most) prescription drugs. Take a look at:http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificate ... ots/...for more information. Not good information, but there.Sorry.....Richard T. Perry perryrt(at)hotmail.com"Fraser, there's a guy on my corner who asks me everymorning if I've seen God; do you really think heexpects me to point Him out?""Well, you know, Ray, if you did, perhaps he'd stopasking."Ray Vecchio and Benton Fraser, "Hawk and a Handsaw", Due_South________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: harvey rule
RE: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: Sterling sterling(at)pgrb.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)I had posted this little problem FAA's catch-22 with the group last summer.Nows time for update. My last physical for 3class came up short with a tadof atrial fib. FAA medical notified by AME and medical (aka pilot'srights) pulled by FAA. Jumped thru all hoops required on FAA publishedflyer on having AF including about $25K medical testing bills (thank godfor insurance). You can get a copy of these published docs on web,regarding what the FAA says they need for special issuance medicals. MYHeart specialist determined cause is unknown, just got it, and have to takemeds, am doing so, its under control according to my heart dr. Passed allFAA required tests for special issuance. FAA's medical consultant thatworks out of Anchorage AK regional offices has been sitting on my paperworkfor about 4 mos. My Heart Dr actually a seasoned bush pilot sent letter ofrecommendation after doing all FAA required test plus a heart looksee witha cath thru the artery in leg (not required but good idea). FAA wants now,in addition to published required tests, the want 4 months of records thatblood thinner precribed by heart doc is actually "working". Damn stuff hasbeen working for 6 months now, but FAA wants more. FAA's Flight Surg.(think he's a contract Dr of Oste) says he'll "maybe" issue the specialissuance for 1 yr. Then I have to come back with 12 records of bloodthinner tests to my AME then retake the stress test (about a $3000 medicaltest on a tread mill and radiology scan), then "maybe" the special issuancewill be issued for 6 years, then "maybe" the retesting each year will onlyrequire blood thinner testing results, then "maybe" every other year someother published FAA test. God, I can't wait to see what new crap they comeup with then.Summary--------if you have any brains at all and any suspected medicalcondition that may get an AME to bounce your 3rd class, drop back right nowto a sport pilots rating with your current pvt pilot's write-off and yourdrivers license. Don't go take any more 3rd class medical exams from anAME, they're required by law to report to you to FAA med. div. in case theyfind anything wrong. The Piete is a good bird for this LSE rating. Don't,repeat don't get the damn FAA medical div. involved with your life, you cannever ever get out. Once you're in their records you cannot fly again on aLSA tag, you must always renew your 3rd class thats the Catch-22 of thislaw.Gordon BowenOriginal Message:-----------------
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)I had posted this little problem FAA's catch-22 with the group last summer.Nows time for update. My last physical for 3class came up short with a tadof atrial fib. FAA medical notified by AME and medical (aka pilot'srights) pulled by FAA. Jumped thru all hoops required on FAA publishedflyer on having AF including about $25K medical testing bills (thank godfor insurance). You can get a copy of these published docs on web,regarding what the FAA says they need for special issuance medicals. MYHeart specialist determined cause is unknown, just got it, and have to takemeds, am doing so, its under control according to my heart dr. Passed allFAA required tests for special issuance. FAA's medical consultant thatworks out of Anchorage AK regional offices has been sitting on my paperworkfor about 4 mos. My Heart Dr actually a seasoned bush pilot sent letter ofrecommendation after doing all FAA required test plus a heart looksee witha cath thru the artery in leg (not required but good idea). FAA wants now,in addition to published required tests, the want 4 months of records thatblood thinner precribed by heart doc is actually "working". Damn stuff hasbeen working for 6 months now, but FAA wants more. FAA's Flight Surg.(think he's a contract Dr of Oste) says he'll "maybe" issue the specialissuance for 1 yr. Then I have to come back with 12 records of bloodthinner tests to my AME then retake the stress test (about a $3000 medicaltest on a tread mill and radiology scan), then "maybe" the special issuancewill be issued for 6 years, then "maybe" the retesting each year will onlyrequire blood thinner testing results, then "maybe" every other year someother published FAA test. God, I can't wait to see what new crap they comeup with then.Summary--------if you have any brains at all and any suspected medicalcondition that may get an AME to bounce your 3rd class, drop back right nowto a sport pilots rating with your current pvt pilot's write-off and yourdrivers license. Don't go take any more 3rd class medical exams from anAME, they're required by law to report to you to FAA med. div. in case theyfind anything wrong. The Piete is a good bird for this LSE rating. Don't,repeat don't get the damn FAA medical div. involved with your life, you cannever ever get out. Once you're in their records you cannot fly again on aLSA tag, you must always renew your 3rd class thats the Catch-22 of thislaw.Gordon BowenOriginal Message:-----------------
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)When I was in the army, the first guys in the chow line had to serve and eat last. That was a long time ago. Ken Conrad________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)When I was in the army, the first guys in the chow line had to serve and eat last. That was a long time ago. Ken Conrad________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: "Mark"
My AOPA membership came in handy again. Last week I contacted AOPA and therepresentative said the meds I am taking should not be an issue for my 3rdclass physical.Also, by quiting coffee (ouch) and other forms of caffine, and reducing mysalt intake (not to mention reducing my girth a couple of inches) my bloodpressure would be back to normal.I'd much rather maintain my private pilot's license rather than switch tothe sport pilot way of flying. I'll be scheduling my flight physical in afew weeks and report back to advise how it went.Sterling(Almost bought a Glasair this weekend, but now looking at a Tailwind... Willbe fun to be able to go fast in the Tailwind and low and slow in theAircamper... Thank goodness for free hanger space.)----- Original Message -----
My AOPA membership came in handy again. Last week I contacted AOPA and therepresentative said the meds I am taking should not be an issue for my 3rdclass physical.Also, by quiting coffee (ouch) and other forms of caffine, and reducing mysalt intake (not to mention reducing my girth a couple of inches) my bloodpressure would be back to normal.I'd much rather maintain my private pilot's license rather than switch tothe sport pilot way of flying. I'll be scheduling my flight physical in afew weeks and report back to advise how it went.Sterling(Almost bought a Glasair this weekend, but now looking at a Tailwind... Willbe fun to be able to go fast in the Tailwind and low and slow in theAircamper... Thank goodness for free hanger space.)----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Light Sport Aircraft (Regs as I read them)
Original Posted By: Lou Wither