Pietenpol-List: Newbie (sorry long)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:38 am

Original Posted By: harvey rule
Hi all,I am a new "lurker" on the Pietenpol List and I am interested in building (or buying)a Pietenpol in the not so distant future. I just wanted to say that the passion you guys (and gals) have for this littleairplane is contagious. I will likely order my plans in the next few months. Myinitial thoughts are to go with a C-90 or 0-200 because I would like to operateout a my farm strip which is a rather short, one-way-in-one-way-out affair.A little about me;I am 35, married with 3 kids, and have been flying for over 20 years in varioustypes, currently I fly a corporate Beechjet. About 10 years ago I rebuilt a BuckerJungster I, so I have some concept at wood airplanes and fabric work, butI am far from experienced when it comes to building an airplane from scratch.My son is 10 and I was excited by the notion of a father-&-son-team with theveritable Piet. Any words of wisdom before I take the plunge???Thanks in advance,--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:12:03 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:29 pm

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:00 pm

Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:32 pm

Original Posted By: "walt evans"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:02 pm

Original Posted By: "bike.mike"
Guys,Thanks for the great advise. I will be asking many "dumb" questions in the future,although I'll try to search the archives first. I just ordered Chuck Gantzer's video, I can't wait to see that.Regards,--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:08:16 -0800

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:06 pm

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
Walt,I signed up on the frappr. Thanks!Brent O.waltdak(at)verizon.net wrote:> Brent,> This is so cool , that a corporate jet pilot wants to get into the Pietenpol> thing. Nothing like going up on a weekend morning with the wind and smells > in your hair, and your kids will love it.> As far as taking the plunge,,,,,Dive in!> Go here and see where the Piet builders/hopefuls are. Feel free to add your> stats.> http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol> And any other builders who haven't gotton on Frapper, you should. You can > see at a glance.> > AIN'T LIFE GRAND!> walt evans> NX140DL> > > > -----------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie (sorry long)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:38 pm

Original Posted By: harvey rule
First dumb question. I searched the archives, I promise.I would like to go ahead and get a set of plans and I realise that the "family"is the place to go. Should I order the package deal - includes plans, 3 piece wing plans, & supplementaldrawings? I was also going to grab the full size rib drawing and the buildersmanual - basically everything they sell except for the scout plans. Also is there a complete list of other folks who have plans/drawings of subsystems, etc? I noticed the name Keri-Ann Price among others who offer (offered) additional info. Looks like I missed out as the website "www.aircamper.org" was mentioned often, but the link is dead.Thanks in advance!--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:05:27 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:10 pm

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
Brent,My sons and I are also new to the scene and looking to build. What a great way to spend time with your kids. And you also get to fly it when its done. Where do you live? Good luck!Steve----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:33 pm

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator hingesSo -- what's the best way to mortise in or countersink the Vi Kapler aluminum hinges in the horizontal stab and elevator? Can it be done with careful use of a good, sharp wood chisel? I have a router, but I'm afraid I'd slip and ruinthe main beam of the stab or elevator...would appreciate any tips. Fred B.La Crosse, WI ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie (sorry long)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:53 pm

Original Posted By: "Jim Markle"
Yeah we are really looking forward to it. I promised the wife I wouldn't buildan airplane till my youngest is 4 yrs old (2 more years), but that won't keepme and my son from stamping out a few ribs [Laughing] . I live just outside ofColumbus, Oh in Blacklick.Brent O.schuerrs(at)charter.net wrote:> Brent,> > My sons and I are also new to the scene and looking to build. What a great > way to spend time with your kids. And you also get to fly it when its done.> Where do you live? Good luck!> > Steve> -----------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:58 pm

Original Posted By: TBYH(at)aol.com
I did it like this after I built the whole tail structure. http://www.hal-pc.org/~hjkr/hingeslots.htm Alignment was easier this way. Worked great and was easy. The chisel did notwork well enough. Chris TracySacramento, Ca ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:58 pm

Original Posted By: TBYH(at)aol.com
Here's a "non slip" method for cutting those recesses (and hinge mortices, anda LOT of other stuff!)....http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildL ... 20CamperIf the link fails, go to mykitplane.com and look at my 11.18.2002 entry.jm ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:49 pm

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
The plans from the family are what I got, from Don Pietenpol himself. I boughtthe bundle like you were talking about doing. ...and also the full size ribplan. The printing process can alter the dimensions slightly and humidity canchange the size of the paper and for that reason I plotted the dimensions onthe wing drawings directly onto the rib jig. What the full size plan WAS helpfulfor was positioning the bracing structure between the upper and lower capstrips.Dimensions are not given in the plans so I was pleased to be able to referto the rib plan for that. I think it was an additional $16 for that sheet.The Flying and Glider manual is also nice to have.I see you got Chuck's video. Michael Cuy also has a video. They are both greatresources to have and I've seen them both MULTIPLE times.Enjoy!--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie (sorry long)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:58 am

Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:07 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I should have mentioned Mike Cuy's and Chuck Gantzer's videos in my "MustHave" list. His and Chuck's are both very good, with different subjectmatters. Good inspiration, too.Jack PhillipsNX899JP-----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:38 pm

Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Mike's video can be obtained through this link:http://users.aol.com/bpabpabpa/cuyvideo.htmlI just got one a couple of weeks ago. Makes you aware of all the ways you cancustomize your plane.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:44 pm

Original Posted By: "panhandler1956"
Hope to see everyone at Sun & Fun next week.Some of the Big Piet Builders are flying down to Key West this weekend as a pre-runnerto our flying the Piets to the Bahamas, then back to SNF for the week.Looks like we are having a Southern Piet Fly-in this fall. Looks like the 2nd Saturday/Sunin July.Airport will be Carrollton, Ga, CTJ. More info to follow after Sun n Fun. PLEASEgive us some feedback on this.Barry Davis________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Newbie (sorry long)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:47 pm

Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
Guys,I am floored by the warm welcome and hospitality of the folks on this list. Inaddition to the great replies, I have recieved a dozen emails, which were allEXTREMELY helpful. Thanks again and I hope I can contribute back.--------Brent O.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:56 pm

Original Posted By: Rick Holland
I have a set of small hobby chisels. I tapped them out with a small hammer. Idid them all in a couple of hours.Dick N ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:30 pm

Original Posted By: "Kenneth M. Heide"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:49 am

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:14 am

Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
JackThat date is not in stone as yet. After seeing your Piet at Brodhead, it is importantthat you can attend. Will keep you posted. Are you going to SNF? ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:26 am

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:42 am

Original Posted By: Jim Ash

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:44 pm

Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:51 pm

Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:00 pm

Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: wider, standard....longer, shorter

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:18 pm

Original Posted By: Lou Wither

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:23 pm

Original Posted By: Jim Ash

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