Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etcYep, fish fries are very popular on Friday nights around Wisconsin. In fact, I missed my weekly dose last night (had a chicken sandwich instead as I'm trying to lose some tonnage and make the Piet fly well when she's finished!) andso I'm suffering with a little withdrawal this morning.I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to the old BPA newsletters -- as the editor he was working for the BPA. The dues paying members paid for the newsletter and therefore if anyone owns the copyright it isthey, especially if Grant was reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said,I'd be willing to contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course, my Piet isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...Guinness -- reminds me of the story about the brew masters convention. All the brew masters from around the world were there and after a hard day of seminars and workshops they all gathered for happy hour in the local watering hole.The barkeep asked the fellow from Miller what he'd like to drink. He replied, "Miller High Life, of course! The champagne of bottled beers!"The barkeep turned to Bud guy and asked for his request. "I'll have a Bud -- the King of Beers!" And the guy from La Crosse's City Brewing asked for a La Crosse City Lager. In turn each brew master asked for a bottle of their own beer. Turning to the Guinness brew master the barkeep asked, "What'll you have?"The Guinness man said, "I'll have an ice-cold Coca-Cola."The other brew masters about choked and asked the Guinness man what the heck was wrong, to which the Guinness man sneered, "Well, when you all decide to order beer, I'll order beer!" Regards,Fred B.La Crosse, WI ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etc
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etc
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etcI agree with Fred on the copyright thing. I have a set of the old newsletters & nowhere in any of them does it state that the material is copyrighted. There is a statement that the newsletter is intended for BPA members only, but what's to prevent a member form copying & distributing material if he/she sees fit? - nothing so far as I can see. I think Grant is blowing smoke - if he's not, then he should produce proof of the copyright, not just threaten people. Even if he did have a copyright, it would only be for those issues he edited - Frank Pavliga & his Dad did all the early BPA newsletters & Frank has never said one word regarding his belief that he has ownership or non-ownership of that material.Right now, I'm pretty much out of the loop of aviation - I'm simultaneously looking for a new job, buying a 46-acre farm near Wooster, OH with several partners, and running a market garden out of my back yard on the side, so life is pretty hectic. I did get a little work done on the Corvair engine this spring, but that's all. The EAA Chapter 82 Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In was a sucess despite the fact tha William Wynne decided not to come & the weather prevent all but a couple of planes from coming. However, Bill clapp showed up wirth his KR-2S & did a great job of demonstrating its capabilities. We also had nearly 20 cars show up from as far away as Detroit and Eastern PA, including a truly cool, beautifully maintained, Corvair-powered Porsch ("Porschair"). Most importantly, everyone who came had a good time.If things settle down on the job hunt & farm purchase deal I might try to hitch a ride to Brodhead with somebody - otherwise, I'll have to sit this year out.Cheers,Kip Gardner> I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to >the old BPA newsletters -- as the editor he was working for the BPA. >The dues paying members paid for the newsletter and therefore if >anyone owns the copyright it is they, especially if Grant was >reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said, I'd be willing to >contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course, my Piet >isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...Regards,Fred B.La Crosse, WI-- North Canton, OH________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etcI agree with Fred on the copyright thing. I have a set of the old newsletters & nowhere in any of them does it state that the material is copyrighted. There is a statement that the newsletter is intended for BPA members only, but what's to prevent a member form copying & distributing material if he/she sees fit? - nothing so far as I can see. I think Grant is blowing smoke - if he's not, then he should produce proof of the copyright, not just threaten people. Even if he did have a copyright, it would only be for those issues he edited - Frank Pavliga & his Dad did all the early BPA newsletters & Frank has never said one word regarding his belief that he has ownership or non-ownership of that material.Right now, I'm pretty much out of the loop of aviation - I'm simultaneously looking for a new job, buying a 46-acre farm near Wooster, OH with several partners, and running a market garden out of my back yard on the side, so life is pretty hectic. I did get a little work done on the Corvair engine this spring, but that's all. The EAA Chapter 82 Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In was a sucess despite the fact tha William Wynne decided not to come & the weather prevent all but a couple of planes from coming. However, Bill clapp showed up wirth his KR-2S & did a great job of demonstrating its capabilities. We also had nearly 20 cars show up from as far away as Detroit and Eastern PA, including a truly cool, beautifully maintained, Corvair-powered Porsch ("Porschair"). Most importantly, everyone who came had a good time.If things settle down on the job hunt & farm purchase deal I might try to hitch a ride to Brodhead with somebody - otherwise, I'll have to sit this year out.Cheers,Kip Gardner> I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to >the old BPA newsletters -- as the editor he was working for the BPA. >The dues paying members paid for the newsletter and therefore if >anyone owns the copyright it is they, especially if Grant was >reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said, I'd be willing to >contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course, my Piet >isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...Regards,Fred B.La Crosse, WI-- North Canton, OH________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etc
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etcKip,With United States law there does not have to be any notice of copyright. Thecopy right is automatically granted the creator of the document and remains hisuntil he sells or gives it to someone else.mike----- Original Message ----Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:58:49 AMI agree with Fred on the copyright thing. I have a set of the old newsletters& nowhere in any of them does it state that the material is copyrighted. Thereis a statement that the newsletter is intended for BPA members only, but what'sto prevent a member form copying & distributing material if he/she sees fit?- nothing so far as I can see. I think Grant is blowing smoke - if he's not,then he should produce proof of the copyright, not just threaten people. Even if he did have a copyright, it would only be for those issues he edited -Frank Pavliga & his Dad did all the early BPA newsletters & Frank has never saidone word regarding his belief that he has ownership or non-ownership of thatmaterial.Right now, I'm pretty much out of the loop of aviation - I'm simultaneously lookingfor a new job, buying a 46-acre farm near Wooster, OH with several partners,and running a market garden out of my back yard on the side, so life is prettyhectic. I did get a little work done on the Corvair engine this spring,but that's all. The EAA Chapter 82 Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In was a sucessdespite the fact tha William Wynne decided not to come & the weather preventall but a couple of planes from coming. However, Bill clapp showed up wirth hisKR-2S & did a great job of demonstrating its capabilities. We also had nearly20 cars show up from as far away as Detroit and Eastern PA, including a trulycool, beautifully maintained, Corvair-powered Porsch ("Porschair"). Most importantly,everyone who came had a good time.If things settle down on the job hunt & farm purchase deal I might try to hitcha ride to Brodhead with somebody - otherwise, I'll have to sit this year out.Cheers,Kip Gardner I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to the old BPA newsletters-- as the editor he was working for the BPA. The dues paying memberspaid for the newsletter and therefore if anyone owns the copyright it is they,especially if Grant was reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said,I'd be willing to contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course,my Piet isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...Regards,Fred B.La Crosse, WI-- North Canton, OH________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fish fries, newsletters, etcKip,With United States law there does not have to be any notice of copyright. Thecopy right is automatically granted the creator of the document and remains hisuntil he sells or gives it to someone else.mike----- Original Message ----Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 7:58:49 AMI agree with Fred on the copyright thing. I have a set of the old newsletters& nowhere in any of them does it state that the material is copyrighted. Thereis a statement that the newsletter is intended for BPA members only, but what'sto prevent a member form copying & distributing material if he/she sees fit?- nothing so far as I can see. I think Grant is blowing smoke - if he's not,then he should produce proof of the copyright, not just threaten people. Even if he did have a copyright, it would only be for those issues he edited -Frank Pavliga & his Dad did all the early BPA newsletters & Frank has never saidone word regarding his belief that he has ownership or non-ownership of thatmaterial.Right now, I'm pretty much out of the loop of aviation - I'm simultaneously lookingfor a new job, buying a 46-acre farm near Wooster, OH with several partners,and running a market garden out of my back yard on the side, so life is prettyhectic. I did get a little work done on the Corvair engine this spring,but that's all. The EAA Chapter 82 Corvair Wings & Wheels Fly-In was a sucessdespite the fact tha William Wynne decided not to come & the weather preventall but a couple of planes from coming. However, Bill clapp showed up wirth hisKR-2S & did a great job of demonstrating its capabilities. We also had nearly20 cars show up from as far away as Detroit and Eastern PA, including a trulycool, beautifully maintained, Corvair-powered Porsch ("Porschair"). Most importantly,everyone who came had a good time.If things settle down on the job hunt & farm purchase deal I might try to hitcha ride to Brodhead with somebody - otherwise, I'll have to sit this year out.Cheers,Kip Gardner I still maintain that Grant McLAren doesn't own the copyright to the old BPA newsletters-- as the editor he was working for the BPA. The dues paying memberspaid for the newsletter and therefore if anyone owns the copyright it is they,especially if Grant was reimbursed for the printing costs, etc. That said,I'd be willing to contribute articles/photos for a new newsletter...of course,my Piet isn't flying yet, so don't know how much material I can contribute...Regards,Fred B.La Crosse, WI-- North Canton, OH________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletter
Original Posted By: "gcardinal"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletterRoman,I subscribe to the BPA newsletter too, and have enjoyed it... to a point. As I mentioned in my emails, the substance and regularity seemed to trail off a couple years ago to the point where I was occassionally getting a two or four page newsletter with very little of interest. I respect anyone who has the gumption to get up and freely "do" something like this and my hat is off to them. It does seem however, that they need help or to pass the baton.I'll try to contact them for a status update and pick their brains.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA newsletterRoman,I subscribe to the BPA newsletter too, and have enjoyed it... to a point. As I mentioned in my emails, the substance and regularity seemed to trail off a couple years ago to the point where I was occassionally getting a two or four page newsletter with very little of interest. I respect anyone who has the gumption to get up and freely "do" something like this and my hat is off to them. It does seem however, that they need help or to pass the baton.I'll try to contact them for a status update and pick their brains.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________