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Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilG'day, low 'n' slow fliers;I've been told by more than one aircraft owner that Marvel Mystery Oil is good for anything that ails a small Continental; in the oil and in the fuel. Anybody have any good or bad things to say about it?Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Steve Ruse
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilI've been using MMO in every engine I've owned for decades...C-65's, O-360's, I0-540's, Chevy 454's, Subaru boxer engines, Onan generator, Briggs & Strattons, etc. A little in the fuel every other fill-up...a little in the crankcase at oil change, a little down the carb to winterize, etc.Does it work? Don't know.....kinda like religion - ya need a little faith. I do know that pulled heads have always been clean, the 454ci motorhome greatly reduced oil consumption, and aircraft engines designed for leaded fuel seemed to last longer......My Model A car had a MMO Inverse Oiler installed....a jar & valving that sent a few drops into the manifold in response to vacuum...couple drops/minute at high vacuum (no load), 8-10 drops a minute a low vacuum (under load).......For 'bout a hundred bucks/year outlay, I consider it chicken soup for my engines.....May not help, but it certainly can't hurt........>From: "Oscar Zuniga" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:08:54 -0500>>>>G'day, low 'n' slow fliers;>>I've been told by more than one aircraft owner that Marvel Mystery Oil is >good for anything that ails a small Continental; in the oil and in the >fuel. Anybody have any good or bad things to say about it?>>Oscar Zuniga>San Antonio, TX>mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net>>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>http://wiki.matronics.com>>________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: "Scott Knowlton"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilOscar,I use it in fuel only, I'm a little hesitant to put anything in my oil, and I haven't heard any good reasons to do so in a Continental. I've heard several stories of MMO "unsticking" sticky valves when added to the fuel, and I figured that if it can unstick a stuck valve, it should also keep them from sticking. That, along with recommendations from a lot of people I respect, was enough to get me to use it. It does leave a slight residue on my plane after 20+ hours, but it does wash away.Steve RuseNorman, OKQuoting Oscar Zuniga :>> G'day, low 'n' slow fliers;>> I've been told by more than one aircraft owner that Marvel Mystery Oil> is good for anything that ails a small Continental; in the oil and in> the fuel. Anybody have any good or bad things to say about it?>> Oscar Zuniga> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> http://wiki.matronics.com________________________________________________________________________________
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>> Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: "Mark Blackwell"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilWhen I first bought my Cub, this subject came up. Apparently MMO is not officiallyapproved for aircraft use, but everybody looks the other way. I suspect ifthere were a verifiable incident of failure traceable to MMO, the word wouldget out and shut the practice down. I don't know if any of this applies to experimentaltype, except in the case where you're maintaining a certificated engineas standard type in your experimental airplane. I use a 1/4 cup of MMO ina full tank of fuel in the Cub. I don't put it in my oil.Jim Ash-----Original Message----->From: Lee Schiek >Sent: Jun 27, 2006 9:55 AM>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil>>>I've been using MMO in every engine I've owned for decades...C-65's, >O-360's, I0-540's, Chevy 454's, Subaru boxer engines, Onan generator, Briggs >& Strattons, etc. A little in the fuel every other fill-up...a little in >the crankcase at oil change, a little down the carb to winterize, etc.>>Does it work? Don't know.....kinda like religion - ya need a little faith. >I do know that pulled heads have always been clean, the 454ci motorhome >greatly reduced oil consumption, and aircraft engines designed for leaded >fuel seemed to last longer......>>My Model A car had a MMO Inverse Oiler installed....a jar & valving that >sent a few drops into the manifold in response to vacuum...couple >drops/minute at high vacuum (no load), 8-10 drops a minute a low vacuum >(under load).......>>For 'bout a hundred bucks/year outlay, I consider it chicken soup for my >engines.....May not help, but it certainly can't hurt........>>>>From: "Oscar Zuniga" >>Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil>>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:08:54 -0500>>>>>>>>G'day, low 'n' slow fliers;>>>>I've been told by more than one aircraft owner that Marvel Mystery Oil is >>good for anything that ails a small Continental; in the oil and in the >>fuel. Anybody have any good or bad things to say about it?>>>>Oscar Zuniga>>San Antonio, TX>>mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com>>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>>http://wiki.matronics.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: "Steve Eldredge"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilIf you send an engine oil sample off for examination, the report will come back as a non aviation substanse in the oil. IE oil comtaminated. Well that really wouldn't be a big deal until something else liquid got in an contaminated the oil.Personally I have never seen anything that said it would do any harm, but not really seen anything for sure that said it would do any good either. I used it in a RX 7 for years. It had a turbo charged rotary in it and I used MMO every fill up for years. The engine had 230,000 miles on it when a cooling seal finally went bad.----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:08 AM> >> G'day, low 'n' slow fliers;>> I've been told by more than one aircraft owner that Marvel Mystery Oil is > good for anything that ails a small Continental; in the oil and in the > fuel. Anybody have any good or bad things to say about it?>> Oscar Zuniga> San Antonio, TX> mailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.com> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> http://wiki.matronics.com>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilMMO is definately illegal to use in any airplane with a standard airworthiness certificate. But for those that are interested there is a product called Av Blend which is legal that goes in the engine oil. I used it in an old Isuzo Rodeo that had a bad knock and yes it stopped it when MMO wouldn't. Id use it first, IF I were using a certified airplane engine.----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:34 AM>> When I first bought my Cub, this subject came up. Apparently MMO is not > officially approved for aircraft use, but everybody looks the other way. > I suspect if there were a verifiable incident of failure traceable to MMO, > the word would get out and shut the practice down. I don't know if any of > this applies to experimental type, except in the case where you're > maintaining a certificated engine as standard type in your experimental > airplane. I use a 1/4 cup of MMO in a full tank of fuel in the Cub. I > don't put it in my oil.>> Jim Ash________________________________________________________________________________
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilIn a message dated 6/27/2006 8:29:07 AM Central Standard Time, taildrags(at)hotmail.com writes:I've been told by more than one aircraft owner that Marvel Mystery Oil is good for anything that ails a small Continental; in the oil and in the fuel. Anybody have any good or bad things to say about it?I use it in my fuel, and oil, but can't really say yay or nay about it...just going on the words of others about it.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilI have been adding MMO to my fuel. However, I got a warning from others at our EAA meeting last week. Apparantly, MMO does not mix well with fuel and it is necessary to pre mix it into the gas. Some of the Cub pilots at the meeting were saying that it had caused some crashes by clogging the gascolator. I had been just pouring the MMO into the tank before fueling. I will pump out the tank bottom with a hand pump to check for unmixed oil before flying again.These guys also were saying that adding 2 cycle oil to engine oil and running the engine for a while before changing oil does a great job at cleaning the insides. I havent tried that.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilA long time ago some person told me that dripping water into the mouthof the carburator while the engine is running also cleans it out.I havenever tried this and I'm not even sure it would work.Hell for all I knowit might blow the head of an engine but sometimes these old guys havesome pretty weird ideas that work.Anybody out there ever heard of thisprocedure or am I just blown smoke here? ________________________________[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DickNavratilSent: June 28, 2006 11:38 AMI have been adding MMO to my fuel. However, I got a warning from othersat our EAA meeting last week. Apparantly, MMO does not mix well withfuel and it is necessary to pre mix it into the gas. Some of the Cubpilots at the meeting were saying that it had caused some crashes byclogging the gascolator. I had been just pouring the MMO into the tank before fueling. I willpump out the tank bottom with a hand pump to check for unmixed oilbefore flying again.These guys also were saying that adding 2 cycle oil to engine oil andrunning the engine for a while before changing oil does a great job atcleaning the insides. I havent tried that.Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "Hogan, James"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilDick-- I add the MMO just like you do-----before fueling and I've never had a lick of trouble with my gascolator, carb screen orfuel flow. I even did another fuel flow test last summer and I am getting the exact same flow at the carb as I got when the system wasnew 400 hours ago.Mike C.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: Dick Navratil
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilBoy, I sure hate to get involved in this discussing. Please don't kill the messenger....I'm not pro or con on the subject, I'm just relaying on information. Some folks kinda feel that talking about Marvel Mystery Oil is like talking about their mother. You'd better watch what you say. On another site (Yahoo Avid Flyers) the subject was brought up a few years ago as a number of folks use it in their two strokes. Someone posted an excerp from a NTSB investigation that listed Marvel Myster Oil as being made of Mineral Oil, Stoddard Salvent and Lard.I really know very little about 4 stroke engines and everything I read will be a big help for me. What kind of fuel burn does the rest of you guys that fly behind a 65 Continental get? Are you using Av gas or auto gas?GeneNew to the site and new to flying (and loving) a Pietenpol. ----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "bike.mike"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: Gene & Tammy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilGeneI have a A-65 and burn about 4.5 gph when flying around 2000 msl, better burn at 3000 about 3.9 gph. I go back and forth between 100LL and mogas. Just be sure there is no ethanol.Has anyone ever taken a sniff of Marvel . Smells like Vasoline Petroleum Jelly to me.Dick ----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: SSchof4277(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilIn a message dated 6/28/2006 11:15:55 AM Central Standard Time, harvey.rule(at)bell.ca writes:A long time ago some person told me that dripping water into the mouth of the carburator while the engine is running also cleans it out.I have never triedthis and I=99m not even sure it would work.Hell for all I know it might blow the head of an engine but sometimes these old guys have some pretty weird ideas that work.Anybody out there ever heard of this procedure or am I just blown smoke here? This method works on an engine that has excessive carbon buildup in the combustion chamber, and under the intake valves...a condition caused by excessive rich mixture. The Hydrogen in the water is what softens the carbon, and erodes it away. I've used this method on the large trucks, with gas engines, I used to work on. I've also used it on several automobile engines, and it helps the engine run better, if it had the carbon build up.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery Oil

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Original Posted By: Dick Navratil
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Marvel Mystery OilUp here we look for the dirtiest mogas we can find and that would beESSO.Anything else may have ethanol in it and that's bad.Someday allmogas will have ethanol since our government is bent on this directionand that will be a sad day for us.I know of no one up here in my areawho uses Marvel Mystery oil.Then again I'm not in touch with most of thepilots in the area ,only the ones in our RAA. ________________________________[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene &TammySent: June 28, 2006 3:17 PMBoy, I sure hate to get involved in this discussing. Please don't killthe messenger....I'm not pro or con on the subject, I'm just relaying oninformation. Some folks kinda feel that talking about Marvel MysteryOil is like talking about their mother. You'd better watch what yousay. On another site (Yahoo Avid Flyers) the subject was brought up a fewyears ago as a number of folks use it in their two strokes. Someoneposted an excerp from a NTSB investigation that listed Marvel Myster Oilas being made of Mineral Oil, Stoddard Salvent and Lard.I really know very little about 4 stroke engines and everything I readwill be a big help for me. What kind of fuel burn does the rest of youguys that fly behind a 65 Continental get? Are you using Av gas or autogas?GeneNew to the site and new to flying (and loving) a Pietenpol.----- Original Message -----
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