Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingDouwe,Sorry you can't make it this year. My dad, a friend, and I bought our Piet last August and we along with my wife will be at Brodhead. Thanks for asking about it.Our Piet was built in 1976 by a fellow in upstate NY. It's only got about 300 hrs on it. Trucked in down in a UHaul. That was a long drive that ended safely but in a downpour at the home airport. The workmanship is excellent, it's always been hangared and the fabric is in great shape. The original engine was an A65. Though it was low-time, it had issues and has since been replaced with a C-75. With two on board (180 lbs and 160 lbs) and full fuel (14 gal), we climb out at about 450 fpm on a fairly standard day.The engine swap helps on take-off and climb. However, the biggest gain we've seen, certainly the biggest compared to the effort, was sealing the aileron gaps with translucent duct tape. Before this, I always felt that the plane was balanced on a knife edge on both axes. It was jittery and just downright un-fun to fly in any circumstance other than dead still air. Even in dead still air, initiating a control input was like being slammed in turbulence - I'd move the stick, nothing would happen, then (as Emeril would say) BAM! the plane would lurch over into a turn. Even in light chop it was real work to fly the thing.Now, it is rock solid. The response is fairly quick, but s-m-o-o-t-h and predictable. I highly suggest it to anyone who is flying with open gaps. It really adds joy to the whole experience.Another thing we've found is that the plane is happiest at about 70 mph. It'll do 90, but even at 80 it is just not as fun an experience. Maybe bigger windscreens or better rigging would help. But, it sure is fun at 70, so why bother?A picture of the Piet and me is at the Pietenpol frappr site:http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=1 ... 3898Jeff>I can't believe it, but I won't be able to make this year. My best >friend is getting married on Sat and simply refused to postpone it >for me (rather selfish I thought!)>>Tell me about your Piet. Did you buy it, build it, is it finished, >what engine???>-- _____________________________________________________________Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhDAssociate Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USASenior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvismailto:jboa ... __________
Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealing
Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealing
Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingDouwe,Sorry you can't make it this year. My dad, a friend, and I bought our Piet last August and we along with my wife will be at Brodhead. Thanks for asking about it.Our Piet was built in 1976 by a fellow in upstate NY. It's only got about 300 hrs on it. Trucked in down in a UHaul. That was a long drive that ended safely but in a downpour at the home airport. The workmanship is excellent, it's always been hangared and the fabric is in great shape. The original engine was an A65. Though it was low-time, it had issues and has since been replaced with a C-75. With two on board (180 lbs and 160 lbs) and full fuel (14 gal), we climb out at about 450 fpm on a fairly standard day.The engine swap helps on take-off and climb. However, the biggest gain we've seen, certainly the biggest compared to the effort, was sealing the aileron gaps with translucent duct tape. Before this, I always felt that the plane was balanced on a knife edge on both axes. It was jittery and just downright un-fun to fly in any circumstance other than dead still air. Even in dead still air, initiating a control input was like being slammed in turbulence - I'd move the stick, nothing would happen, then (as Emeril would say) BAM! the plane would lurch over into a turn. Even in light chop it was real work to fly the thing.Now, it is rock solid. The response is fairly quick, but s-m-o-o-t-h and predictable. I highly suggest it to anyone who is flying with open gaps. It really adds joy to the whole experience.Another thing we've found is that the plane is happiest at about 70 mph. It'll do 90, but even at 80 it is just not as fun an experience. Maybe bigger windscreens or better rigging would help. But, it sure is fun at 70, so why bother?A picture of the Piet and me is at the Pietenpol frappr site:http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=1 ... 3898Jeff>I can't believe it, but I won't be able to make this year. My best >friend is getting married on Sat and simply refused to postpone it >for me (rather selfish I thought!)>>Tell me about your Piet. Did you buy it, build it, is it finished, >what engine???>-- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.Associate ProfessorDepartment of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineAtlanta, GA 30322Editor-in-ChiefMolecular Visionhttp://www.molvis.org/________________________ ... __________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingDouwe,Sorry you can't make it this year. My dad, a friend, and I bought our Piet last August and we along with my wife will be at Brodhead. Thanks for asking about it.Our Piet was built in 1976 by a fellow in upstate NY. It's only got about 300 hrs on it. Trucked in down in a UHaul. That was a long drive that ended safely but in a downpour at the home airport. The workmanship is excellent, it's always been hangared and the fabric is in great shape. The original engine was an A65. Though it was low-time, it had issues and has since been replaced with a C-75. With two on board (180 lbs and 160 lbs) and full fuel (14 gal), we climb out at about 450 fpm on a fairly standard day.The engine swap helps on take-off and climb. However, the biggest gain we've seen, certainly the biggest compared to the effort, was sealing the aileron gaps with translucent duct tape. Before this, I always felt that the plane was balanced on a knife edge on both axes. It was jittery and just downright un-fun to fly in any circumstance other than dead still air. Even in dead still air, initiating a control input was like being slammed in turbulence - I'd move the stick, nothing would happen, then (as Emeril would say) BAM! the plane would lurch over into a turn. Even in light chop it was real work to fly the thing.Now, it is rock solid. The response is fairly quick, but s-m-o-o-t-h and predictable. I highly suggest it to anyone who is flying with open gaps. It really adds joy to the whole experience.Another thing we've found is that the plane is happiest at about 70 mph. It'll do 90, but even at 80 it is just not as fun an experience. Maybe bigger windscreens or better rigging would help. But, it sure is fun at 70, so why bother?A picture of the Piet and me is at the Pietenpol frappr site:http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=1 ... 3898Jeff>I can't believe it, but I won't be able to make this year. My best >friend is getting married on Sat and simply refused to postpone it >for me (rather selfish I thought!)>>Tell me about your Piet. Did you buy it, build it, is it finished, >what engine???>-- Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.Associate ProfessorDepartment of OphthalmologyEmory University School of MedicineAtlanta, GA 30322Editor-in-ChiefMolecular Visionhttp://www.molvis.org/________________________ ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealing
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingThat looks like Watson Hartway's old plane. I was probably his last student for tailwheel transition and now rent his old hangar at 01G. We had a lot of fun flying off 15 hours of dual when I bought the Taylorcraft.I also had a BFR from the guy that bought the plane outof the estate. During the BFR I found out that that was his first hour of Taylorcraft time.DaveN36078 '41 BC-12-65At 07:08 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:>Douwe,>>Sorry you can't make it this year. My dad, a friend, and I bought our Piet >last August and we along with my wife will be at Brodhead. Thanks for >asking about it.>>Our Piet was built in 1976 by a fellow in upstate NY. It's only got about >300 hrs on it. Trucked in down in a UHaul. That was a long drive that >ended safely but in a downpour at the home airport. The workmanship is >excellent, it's always been hangared and the fabric is in great shape. The >original engine was an A65. Though it was low-time, it had issues and has >since been replaced with a C-75. With two on board (180 lbs and 160 lbs) >and full fuel (14 gal), we climb out at about 450 fpm on a fairly standard day.>>The engine swap helps on take-off and climb. However, the biggest gain >we've seen, certainly the biggest compared to the effort, was sealing the >aileron gaps with translucent duct tape. Before this, I always felt that >the plane was balanced on a knife edge on both axes. It was jittery and >just downright un-fun to fly in any circumstance other than dead still >air. Even in dead still air, initiating a control input was like being >slammed in turbulence - I'd move the stick, nothing would happen, then (as >Emeril would say) BAM! the plane would lurch over into a turn. Even in >light chop it was real work to fly the thing.>>Now, it is rock solid. The response is fairly quick, but s-m-o-o-t-h and >predictable. I highly suggest it to anyone who is flying with open gaps. >It really adds joy to the whole experience.>>Another thing we've found is that the plane is happiest at about 70 mph. >It'll do 90, but even at 80 it is just not as fun an experience. Maybe >bigger windscreens or better rigging would help. But, it sure is fun at >70, so why bother?>>A picture of the Piet and me is at the Pietenpol frappr site:>>http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=1 ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingThat looks like Watson Hartway's old plane. I was probably his last student for tailwheel transition and now rent his old hangar at 01G. We had a lot of fun flying off 15 hours of dual when I bought the Taylorcraft.I also had a BFR from the guy that bought the plane outof the estate. During the BFR I found out that that was his first hour of Taylorcraft time.DaveN36078 '41 BC-12-65At 07:08 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:>Douwe,>>Sorry you can't make it this year. My dad, a friend, and I bought our Piet >last August and we along with my wife will be at Brodhead. Thanks for >asking about it.>>Our Piet was built in 1976 by a fellow in upstate NY. It's only got about >300 hrs on it. Trucked in down in a UHaul. That was a long drive that >ended safely but in a downpour at the home airport. The workmanship is >excellent, it's always been hangared and the fabric is in great shape. The >original engine was an A65. Though it was low-time, it had issues and has >since been replaced with a C-75. With two on board (180 lbs and 160 lbs) >and full fuel (14 gal), we climb out at about 450 fpm on a fairly standard day.>>The engine swap helps on take-off and climb. However, the biggest gain >we've seen, certainly the biggest compared to the effort, was sealing the >aileron gaps with translucent duct tape. Before this, I always felt that >the plane was balanced on a knife edge on both axes. It was jittery and >just downright un-fun to fly in any circumstance other than dead still >air. Even in dead still air, initiating a control input was like being >slammed in turbulence - I'd move the stick, nothing would happen, then (as >Emeril would say) BAM! the plane would lurch over into a turn. Even in >light chop it was real work to fly the thing.>>Now, it is rock solid. The response is fairly quick, but s-m-o-o-t-h and >predictable. I highly suggest it to anyone who is flying with open gaps. >It really adds joy to the whole experience.>>Another thing we've found is that the plane is happiest at about 70 mph. >It'll do 90, but even at 80 it is just not as fun an experience. Maybe >bigger windscreens or better rigging would help. But, it sure is fun at >70, so why bother?>>A picture of the Piet and me is at the Pietenpol frappr site:>>http://www.frappr.com/?a=viewphoto&id=1 ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealing
Original Posted By: "Gene & Tammy"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingDave,You are correct! It is Mr. Harway's old plane. Do you know anything about its history? We bought it from Brian Swanson. Brian didn't have a lot of information about the plane.Thanks,Jeff>That looks like Watson Hartway's old plane. I was probably his last >student for tailwheel transition and now rent his old hangar at 01G. >We had a lot of fun flying off 15 hours of dual when I bought the >Taylorcraft.>>I also had a BFR from the guy that bought the plane outof the >estate. During the BFR I found out that that was his first hour of >Taylorcraft time.>>Dave>N36078 '41 BC-12-65>>At 07:08 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:-- _____________________________________________________________Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhDAssociate Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USASenior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvismailto:jboa ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingDave,You are correct! It is Mr. Harway's old plane. Do you know anything about its history? We bought it from Brian Swanson. Brian didn't have a lot of information about the plane.Thanks,Jeff>That looks like Watson Hartway's old plane. I was probably his last >student for tailwheel transition and now rent his old hangar at 01G. >We had a lot of fun flying off 15 hours of dual when I bought the >Taylorcraft.>>I also had a BFR from the guy that bought the plane outof the >estate. During the BFR I found out that that was his first hour of >Taylorcraft time.>>Dave>N36078 '41 BC-12-65>>At 07:08 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:-- _____________________________________________________________Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhDAssociate Professor, Emory Eye Center, Atlanta, GA, USASenior Editor, Molecular Vision, http://www.molvis.org/molvismailto:jboa ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealing
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingMy Piet and aileron gap sealingHey Jeff,I believe that your reason for using gap seals was explained better than any argument I have ever heard before on the subject. It always is good to learn from experience. Now we have the first article for the Piet Newsletter.BarryBig Piet Builders - Carrollton, Ga ----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: My Piet and aileron gap sealingMy Piet and aileron gap sealingHey Jeff,I believe that your reason for using gap seals was explained better than any argument I have ever heard before on the subject. It always is good to learn from experience. Now we have the first article for the Piet Newsletter.BarryBig Piet Builders - Carrollton, Ga ----- Original Message -----