Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
Subject: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?> > Hey all you well-read, well-informed Piet nuts out there------> > A guy flies a Piet that is fully maintained and has a current > condition > inspection.> > The plane falls within the sport pilot category easily.> > The pilot lets his 3rd class medical expire August 1st because he > was too > busy nosing around Brodhead and Oshkosh and forgot to make an appt.> > This guy can still fly the Pietenpol by falling back on the sport > pilot > drivers license rule, right ????> > I have no passenger liability insurance or other insurance on the > plane so > I'm not worried about busting the insurance requirements by not > having a > current medical.> > This guy is ME as you all know by now.> > Mike C. thinking about going flying today after work or Wednesday> > PS....don't forget to check the TFR's dummy.. Note to self.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:19:35 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Grass Runways with fuel service
Pietenpol-List: Grass Runways with fuel service
Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Grass Runways with fuel service Hi Group:I'm sure most of you already know about this, I came across it and thought I would pass it along... Please find the "handy list" below for your review.Max "Mad Dawg" DavisNX101XW reservedArlington, TX.Flight Planning with Your Vintage Airplane Prefer Grass Runways? Here=99s some help. As an EAA member (an important part of your VAA membership), you can use the EAA Flight Planner to chart your trip to Wittman Field for EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2006. Just click on the EAA Flight Planner link on the left side of the home pages at _www.eaa.org_ (http://www.eaa.org/) or _www.vintageaircraft.org_ (http://www.vintageaircraft.org/) . As an added bonus, we have a _handy list_ (http://www.vintageaircraft.org/news/Alp ... %20PDF.pdf) (PDF) of airports that have both grass runways and fuel service, compiled by VAA member Kris Kortokrax. Kris flies a variety of old biplanes that are more pleasant to fly when they are flown from grass strips, and he and his buddies from Shelbyville, Illinois, do their best to keep the old biplanes happy (and keep tire wear to a minimum) by flying cross-country from grass strip to grass strip. Finding fuel facilities can be a challenge these days, and Kris has distilled this airport information to be useful for like-minded grass-runway-preferring pilots. This data was current as of the beginning of the year, and we=99d suggest calling ahead to confirm fuel availability and hours of operation. If you have any changes or additions, drop us an e-mail here at _vintageaircraft(at)eaa.org_ (mailto:vintageaircraft(at)eaa.org) and we=99ll forward it to Kris. Our thanks to Kris for sharing his list. Let us know if you find it useful!________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Grass Runways with fuel service Hi Group:I'm sure most of you already know about this, I came across it and thought I would pass it along... Please find the "handy list" below for your review.Max "Mad Dawg" DavisNX101XW reservedArlington, TX.Flight Planning with Your Vintage Airplane Prefer Grass Runways? Here=99s some help. As an EAA member (an important part of your VAA membership), you can use the EAA Flight Planner to chart your trip to Wittman Field for EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2006. Just click on the EAA Flight Planner link on the left side of the home pages at _www.eaa.org_ (http://www.eaa.org/) or _www.vintageaircraft.org_ (http://www.vintageaircraft.org/) . As an added bonus, we have a _handy list_ (http://www.vintageaircraft.org/news/Alp ... %20PDF.pdf) (PDF) of airports that have both grass runways and fuel service, compiled by VAA member Kris Kortokrax. Kris flies a variety of old biplanes that are more pleasant to fly when they are flown from grass strips, and he and his buddies from Shelbyville, Illinois, do their best to keep the old biplanes happy (and keep tire wear to a minimum) by flying cross-country from grass strip to grass strip. Finding fuel facilities can be a challenge these days, and Kris has distilled this airport information to be useful for like-minded grass-runway-preferring pilots. This data was current as of the beginning of the year, and we=99d suggest calling ahead to confirm fuel availability and hours of operation. If you have any changes or additions, drop us an e-mail here at _vintageaircraft(at)eaa.org_ (mailto:vintageaircraft(at)eaa.org) and we=99ll forward it to Kris. Our thanks to Kris for sharing his list. Let us know if you find it useful!________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Grass Runways with fuel service
Original Posted By: Dave and Connie
Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?I don't think you can fly it on a Sport Pilot's License. A Sport Pilot can't flya regular N-numbered aircraft unless it is an ELSA, SLSA, or LSA registeredaircraft. Also you would have to declare with the FAA that you are changing froma ? Private Pilot Certification to a Sport Pilot. If the FAA wanted to getsticky, and they might, they will require you to get a proficiency check for eachtype of aircraft that you fly...in the Sport Pilot Catagory. For example youmay be able to to re-register your Piet as an ELSA from Experimental but youwill have to have an airworthiness check and it would have to be approved bya DAR to do it.I checked into this because I am in the process of getting a Sport Pilot Licenseso that I can get a Sport Pilot Instructor's license ( and use my status asa USUA BFI although I also have a Private with a n expired medical) and teachflying to Light Sport Aircraft enthusiasts.If you do re-register (providing your DAR will let you, it has been done here inAlaska by the way) you may instruct in your plane up until 2010. At least this is the way I read the regs, but if you doubt this read the FAR inyour recent FAR/AIM manual.RS----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?I don't think you can fly it on a Sport Pilot's License. A Sport Pilot can't flya regular N-numbered aircraft unless it is an ELSA, SLSA, or LSA registeredaircraft. Also you would have to declare with the FAA that you are changing froma ? Private Pilot Certification to a Sport Pilot. If the FAA wanted to getsticky, and they might, they will require you to get a proficiency check for eachtype of aircraft that you fly...in the Sport Pilot Catagory. For example youmay be able to to re-register your Piet as an ELSA from Experimental but youwill have to have an airworthiness check and it would have to be approved bya DAR to do it.I checked into this because I am in the process of getting a Sport Pilot Licenseso that I can get a Sport Pilot Instructor's license ( and use my status asa USUA BFI although I also have a Private with a n expired medical) and teachflying to Light Sport Aircraft enthusiasts.If you do re-register (providing your DAR will let you, it has been done here inAlaska by the way) you may instruct in your plane up until 2010. At least this is the way I read the regs, but if you doubt this read the FAR inyour recent FAR/AIM manual.RS----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?
Original Posted By: "Kip and Beth Gardner"
I dont mean to "butt-In" butt...I thought Recreational/Private pilot certified was "Grandfathered" in and could fly as LSP. I may be wrong...I usually am.Dave..Down in Florida----- Original Message -----
I dont mean to "butt-In" butt...I thought Recreational/Private pilot certified was "Grandfathered" in and could fly as LSP. I may be wrong...I usually am.Dave..Down in Florida----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?
Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: I can fly legally, right ?