Original Posted By: "walt evans"
Failing to find white ash for the two xmembers I checked with a few wood working friends and they suggested Poplar and Aspen as equivalent woods. I was able to find both 3/4 x 3 and 1/4 x 3 Aspen locally and it is clean knot free quality wood. I am inclined to laminate 3 1/4x3 lengths to get a nice strong piece, probably overkill but not allot of effort. Does anyone know of a compelling reason not to use Aspen, laminated or single piece?And let me say again, this group is great. -Scott________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:26:05 -0500
Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: walt evans
Oak is available here as well, and I looked at it but it seemed prone to breaking, a blade like effect. Poplar did seem softer than Aspen. -Scott ----- Original Message -----
Oak is available here as well, and I looked at it but it seemed prone to breaking, a blade like effect. Poplar did seem softer than Aspen. -Scott ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: Kip and Beth Gardner
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: Scott Schreiber
I bought my ash from Wicks. It isn't listed in the aircraft supply catalog. Had to call the Wicks Organ company, their sister company and they had it and cut to the thickness in the plans. Wasn't expensive. Don't know if they still carry it, but don't know why not.Dennis ----- Original Message -----
I bought my ash from Wicks. It isn't listed in the aircraft supply catalog. Had to call the Wicks Organ company, their sister company and they had it and cut to the thickness in the plans. Wasn't expensive. Don't know if they still carry it, but don't know why not.Dennis ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: "Alan Lyscars"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution checkI can get you the ash pieces needed for the plans pietenpol. Will cut a bit longer for surety. Give me a full name, address and phone.Nathan (Corky's buddy)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution checkI can get you the ash pieces needed for the plans pietenpol. Will cut a bit longer for surety. Give me a full name, address and phone.Nathan (Corky's buddy)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: Dennis Engelkenjohn
And remember, guys, ash was used for the frame on many a Morgan production sports car. Al ----- Original Message -----
And remember, guys, ash was used for the frame on many a Morgan production sports car. Al ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution checkI haven't used this Company, so I can't vouch for their service...but it appears you can order small quantities. It's worth a shot. Here's the link...http://www.bristolvalley.com/catalog.as ... ext=1Steve SchofieldVero Beach, Florida________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:13 -0800
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution checkI haven't used this Company, so I can't vouch for their service...but it appears you can order small quantities. It's worth a shot. Here's the link...http://www.bristolvalley.com/catalog.as ... ext=1Steve SchofieldVero Beach, Florida________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:36:13 -0800
RE: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Hi Bo here are the addresses, Phil is Chapter 24 Pres & Joe is SectHope to see you WednesdayRegards Graham________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution checkDate: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:07:15 -0500
Hi Bo here are the addresses, Phil is Chapter 24 Pres & Joe is SectHope to see you WednesdayRegards Graham________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution checkDate: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:07:15 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
MessageWell, I have a solution thanks to the great and generous Nathan who has already offered up the piece. And of course now some of those other sources that came after are here on record for others. For me it is learning the balance of new and old used in this plane. Nobody suggests using the glues from the 1930's, and yet the metal fittings are considered very servicable, and struts are as varied as it gets.... it is an interesting process. -Scott ----- Original Message -----
MessageWell, I have a solution thanks to the great and generous Nathan who has already offered up the piece. And of course now some of those other sources that came after are here on record for others. For me it is learning the balance of new and old used in this plane. Nobody suggests using the glues from the 1930's, and yet the metal fittings are considered very servicable, and struts are as varied as it gets.... it is an interesting process. -Scott ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Re: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
MessageI read with interest your comparison of the Pietenpol project vs. the RV-10.You can't get much greater contrast in homebuilts then that.It just so happens that I am simultaneously building both, the Piet and the RV-10.I started my Piet in Jan.2004 and have the tremendous benefit of having Bill Rewey as my close friend, advisor, and DAR. I have all my ribs done, the fuselage about 90% complete and have finished welding up the landing gear.Then last Jan. my son ordered the tail kit of an RV-10. When I told him "you don't have the time or the passion to tackle a project of this size", he replied, " I know. I'm not going to build it, you are."So, in the evenings a couple days each week I get over to his home to work on the RV, and during the day, I go to my basement and work on my Piet. Meanwhile, he started taking flying lessons. He hasn't soloed yet. I convinced him to own his trainer rather than rent, so he and I bought a really nice 1972 Cessna 150 with low engine time and an IFR panel. Then he had built a beautiful 50 x 60ft hangar, complete with office, bath with shower, fully insulated, heated, well lit, and big enough to hold three planes.Since my special issuance med ran out last Aug. and I can't re apply for several months (cancer) I went and bought a really well built Piet from a guy in Baxter, Ia. to fly under the Sport Pilot rules while continuing to build my Piet.So, I have the best of all worlds: building two very different aircraft, have two very differnt planes to fly, and the luxury of housing them in a very nice hangar at a totally new rebuilt airport in Middleton, Wi.Who said you have to die to be in paradise?Roman BukoltNX 20795N 1765Q ----- Original Message -----
MessageI read with interest your comparison of the Pietenpol project vs. the RV-10.You can't get much greater contrast in homebuilts then that.It just so happens that I am simultaneously building both, the Piet and the RV-10.I started my Piet in Jan.2004 and have the tremendous benefit of having Bill Rewey as my close friend, advisor, and DAR. I have all my ribs done, the fuselage about 90% complete and have finished welding up the landing gear.Then last Jan. my son ordered the tail kit of an RV-10. When I told him "you don't have the time or the passion to tackle a project of this size", he replied, " I know. I'm not going to build it, you are."So, in the evenings a couple days each week I get over to his home to work on the RV, and during the day, I go to my basement and work on my Piet. Meanwhile, he started taking flying lessons. He hasn't soloed yet. I convinced him to own his trainer rather than rent, so he and I bought a really nice 1972 Cessna 150 with low engine time and an IFR panel. Then he had built a beautiful 50 x 60ft hangar, complete with office, bath with shower, fully insulated, heated, well lit, and big enough to hold three planes.Since my special issuance med ran out last Aug. and I can't re apply for several months (cancer) I went and bought a really well built Piet from a guy in Baxter, Ia. to fly under the Sport Pilot rules while continuing to build my Piet.So, I have the best of all worlds: building two very different aircraft, have two very differnt planes to fly, and the luxury of housing them in a very nice hangar at a totally new rebuilt airport in Middleton, Wi.Who said you have to die to be in paradise?Roman BukoltNX 20795N 1765Q ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: White Ash substitution check
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hi Scott,I got my White Ash from The Wood & Shop Inc. 314-731-2761 orwww.woodnshop.com ! They will ship it to youtoo!!!!!!!Cheers,Dave-----Original Message-----
Hi Scott,I got my White Ash from The Wood & Shop Inc. 314-731-2761 orwww.woodnshop.com ! They will ship it to youtoo!!!!!!!Cheers,Dave-----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: T-88 vs. resorcinol
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Good grief, Jack-! Are you planning to fly your Piet through 24 hours of boiling water? Icarus will certainly plummet!This is one discussion that will never end, as long as there are taverns, hangars, and pilots. Less filling or more taste? T-88 or resorcinol? I'll settle for T-88, having used it and found that its qualities are very endearing... workable in temps down into the 50s, not fussy about proportioning, nice gap filling, dries clear, readily available, quick curing, will bond dissimilar materials, and well documented in aviation use for a long time.But, I do not plan to fly through boiling water, ever ;o)Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net_________________________________________________________________Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: T-88 vs. resorcinolDate: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:32:36 -0500
Good grief, Jack-! Are you planning to fly your Piet through 24 hours of boiling water? Icarus will certainly plummet!This is one discussion that will never end, as long as there are taverns, hangars, and pilots. Less filling or more taste? T-88 or resorcinol? I'll settle for T-88, having used it and found that its qualities are very endearing... workable in temps down into the 50s, not fussy about proportioning, nice gap filling, dries clear, readily available, quick curing, will bond dissimilar materials, and well documented in aviation use for a long time.But, I do not plan to fly through boiling water, ever ;o)Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net_________________________________________________________________Talk now to your Hotmail contacts with Windows Live Messenger. ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: T-88 vs. resorcinolDate: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:32:36 -0500
Pietenpol-List: T-88 vs. resorcinol
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Re: Pietenpol-List: T-88 vs. resorcinol
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
A really interesting article on poly glues 9like gurilla glue) Vs rescorcinal. ----- Original Message -----
A really interesting article on poly glues 9like gurilla glue) Vs rescorcinal. ----- Original Message -----