Original Posted By: "Peter W Johnson"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stiching advice > Mike, > > I havn't been keeping current, so if this has been suggested > already, oops! > > Once you're stood the wing on it's leading edge, and gotten your > multiple needles (however many you get comfortable with, I used > three) mark where your holes will go on the entire wing, then get > a sharp pointed soldering iron and burn a hole at each mark. This > makes the stiching go SO much easier, and I found I could look > through the hole next to it and actuall see through the wing much > of the time. > > You'll also find that you'll develop a good feel for finding the > other hole. And yes, do get a buddy. Bright lights are also helpful. > > Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Pietenpol-List: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
I know this was mentioned not too long ago. I attempted to find it in the archivesbut couldn't...Do you make the whole side one big gusset for the rib where the wing connects tothe center section? Also, do you also make the outside of the center sectionone big gusset as well? Seems like you would want to do this in order to havea place to end the fabric at covering time. Do you make lightening holes (accessholes?) or leave it as a solid piece?Thanks in advance--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I know this was mentioned not too long ago. I attempted to find it in the archivesbut couldn't...Do you make the whole side one big gusset for the rib where the wing connects tothe center section? Also, do you also make the outside of the center sectionone big gusset as well? Seems like you would want to do this in order to havea place to end the fabric at covering time. Do you make lightening holes (accessholes?) or leave it as a solid piece?Thanks in advance--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
DonThat temp is what I get at that temp range. I have been thinking of making a insulated blanket to cover the oil tank. You don't want to think about restricting the airflow over the cylinders though.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
DonThat temp is what I get at that temp range. I have been thinking of making a insulated blanket to cover the oil tank. You don't want to think about restricting the airflow over the cylinders though.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Lift Struts
Original Posted By: "Irwin Fust"
My opinion is, save the weight and use all rear struts if available. They are plenty strong.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
My opinion is, save the weight and use all rear struts if available. They are plenty strong.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Glenn,I did, check out http://www.cpc-world.com Go to Airframe Construction >Wings > Wing Ribs. Photo is third from the bottom. I left space at each sparto get a spanner in to tighten the wing attach bolts.CheersPeterWonthaggi Australiahttp://www.cpc-world.com-----Original Message-----
Glenn,I did, check out http://www.cpc-world.com Go to Airframe Construction >Wings > Wing Ribs. Photo is third from the bottom. I left space at each sparto get a spanner in to tighten the wing attach bolts.CheersPeterWonthaggi Australiahttp://www.cpc-world.com-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lift Struts
Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lift StrutsIn a message dated 1/2/2007 7:48:46 PM Central Standard Time, EmchAir(at)aol.com writes:Do you guys with cub type eyebrows on Continental engines have trouble getting the oil temp. up in cooler weather. I stopped on the way home from worktonight and got about half an hour or so in and never saw above 110 deg. oil temp. Outside air temp. was 38 deg. A couple of days ago it was upper 40's, flewfor over an hour and never saw more than 115 deg. The thing I really don't like about this is the condensation that forms and comes out the oil breather at these temps. Can't imagine what the water condensation is doing to the inside of the engine.Don EmchNX899DEDon,I see similar temps with my engine, and have similar concerns with the condensation, although I've never seen any milky residue in the breather tube.I made a 1" hole at the aft end of each eyebrow, and have a tin plug to use, if itwas too much. Really couldn't see much difference in temps. I'm going to resort to the blanket for the kidney oil tank, and maybe even an additional 1"hole.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:41:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lift StrutsIn a message dated 1/2/2007 7:48:46 PM Central Standard Time, EmchAir(at)aol.com writes:Do you guys with cub type eyebrows on Continental engines have trouble getting the oil temp. up in cooler weather. I stopped on the way home from worktonight and got about half an hour or so in and never saw above 110 deg. oil temp. Outside air temp. was 38 deg. A couple of days ago it was upper 40's, flewfor over an hour and never saw more than 115 deg. The thing I really don't like about this is the condensation that forms and comes out the oil breather at these temps. Can't imagine what the water condensation is doing to the inside of the engine.Don EmchNX899DEDon,I see similar temps with my engine, and have similar concerns with the condensation, although I've never seen any milky residue in the breather tube.I made a 1" hole at the aft end of each eyebrow, and have a tin plug to use, if itwas too much. Really couldn't see much difference in temps. I'm going to resort to the blanket for the kidney oil tank, and maybe even an additional 1"hole.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:41:06 -0800
Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Mike,I havn't been keeping current, so if this has been suggested already, oops!Once you're stood the wing on it's leading edge, and gotten your multiple needles (however many you get comfortable with, I used three) mark where your holes will go on the entire wing, then get a sharp pointed soldering iron and burn a hole at each mark. This makes the stiching go SO much easier, and I found I could look through the hole next to it and actuall see through the wing much of the time.You'll also find that you'll develop a good feel for finding the other hole. And yes, do get a buddy. Bright lights are also helpful.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Mike,I havn't been keeping current, so if this has been suggested already, oops!Once you're stood the wing on it's leading edge, and gotten your multiple needles (however many you get comfortable with, I used three) mark where your holes will go on the entire wing, then get a sharp pointed soldering iron and burn a hole at each mark. This makes the stiching go SO much easier, and I found I could look through the hole next to it and actuall see through the wing much of the time.You'll also find that you'll develop a good feel for finding the other hole. And yes, do get a buddy. Bright lights are also helpful.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
RE: Pietenpol-List: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Peter,Thanks for the response. Picture shows me exactly what I was wondering about.Question: Do the ribs with the vertical members go on the wing tip end AND theroot? I see them in your picture on the root ribs. I've got 15 ribs to go andI'm trying to figure out how many of them are of the non-standard type (differentgussets, vertical truss members, etc.) since once the standard ones aredone changes will need to be made to the jig.Great site, thanks!--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Root Rib - 3 Piece WingDate: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:13:29 -0500
Peter,Thanks for the response. Picture shows me exactly what I was wondering about.Question: Do the ribs with the vertical members go on the wing tip end AND theroot? I see them in your picture on the root ribs. I've got 15 ribs to go andI'm trying to figure out how many of them are of the non-standard type (differentgussets, vertical truss members, etc.) since once the standard ones aredone changes will need to be made to the jig.Great site, thanks!--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Root Rib - 3 Piece WingDate: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 12:13:29 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: Mike Luther
Bill,I guess that neither way poses a problem but may take the route of less wood/weightand leave the end open. Just wondered if closing in the end was helpfulin keeping out moisture that sneaks through that seal at the wing joint. Thanks!--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:53:41 -0900
Bill,I guess that neither way poses a problem but may take the route of less wood/weightand leave the end open. Just wondered if closing in the end was helpfulin keeping out moisture that sneaks through that seal at the wing joint. Thanks!--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:53:41 -0900
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
GlennAs far as I can remember they were only on the root rib ends, two on thecenter section and two on the wing roots.I built my Piet to the UK plans with the aileron quick connect.CheersPeter-----Original Message-----
GlennAs far as I can remember they were only on the root rib ends, two on thecenter section and two on the wing roots.I built my Piet to the UK plans with the aileron quick connect.CheersPeter-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stiching advice
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stiching adviceIn a message dated 1/3/2007 2:57:00 PM Central Standard Time, luther(at)gci.net writes:Douwe,Thanks for the additional advice, I finished lacing both wings last Monday "New Years Day". I worked alone and used four needles. I stood the wing up and had plenty of light on both sides of the wing to help look through the wingto see the hole on the other side. MikeMike,Did you happen to count how many stiches you put in ? I seem to remember I put almost 500 stiches in my one piece wing.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:24:25 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stiching adviceIn a message dated 1/3/2007 2:57:00 PM Central Standard Time, luther(at)gci.net writes:Douwe,Thanks for the additional advice, I finished lacing both wings last Monday "New Years Day". I worked alone and used four needles. I stood the wing up and had plenty of light on both sides of the wing to help look through the wingto see the hole on the other side. MikeMike,Did you happen to count how many stiches you put in ? I seem to remember I put almost 500 stiches in my one piece wing.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:24:25 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: "Steve Eldredge"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: What paint to use?Hi Guys,I am wondering what type of paint (final color) to use on the many steel fittings on the Piet. I am worried about the glues and thinners that are usedduring the Polyfiber covering process. I would appreciate any suggestions based on experience. Thanks. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece WingDate: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:19:10 -0700
Subject: Pietenpol-List: What paint to use?Hi Guys,I am wondering what type of paint (final color) to use on the many steel fittings on the Piet. I am worried about the glues and thinners that are usedduring the Polyfiber covering process. I would appreciate any suggestions based on experience. Thanks. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece WingDate: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:19:10 -0700
Pietenpol-List: Re: Root Rib - 3 Piece Wing
Original Posted By: Steve Ruse