Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Things with PropsIn a message dated 2/4/2007 9:00:55 AM Central Standard Time, waltdak(at)verizon.net writes:Larry,The company that I work for has recently qualified to do the wind generator work. We have about 4 guys who travel as needed for repairs. I've never beenin one, but the pictures thay bring back are amazing.Start by checking out the ones in Texas on Chuck G.,s video.walt evansNX140DLWalt, The wind generators in my video are just south of the small town of Beaumont Kansas. It's about 25 miles east of Wichita. There are 100 of these massive generators out there...which is quite a site from the air. These things are about 400 feet from the ground to the top of the top blade. On a clear day, you can see them on the flat horizon out here, from 40 or 50 miles away. Beoumont has a fly - in breakfast on the second saturday of the month...land on the grass strip that is east of the little town, then taxi down the back country road to the Beoumont Hotel / Resturant, to the 'Bent Prop Airplane Parking Area'. There's almost always a couple dozen airplanes that show up,and the only bent prop I've ever seen, is the one on the sign. It's a great way to start the weekend. There is at least three of these 'Wind Farms' out here in Kansas, and I certainly support the effort. There are some folks that believe they detract from the scenery...as for me, I like anything that has a propellor on it !!Chuck G.NX770CG26=BA, calm winds, clear blue sky________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Builders logDate: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:44:24 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Builders log
Re: Pietenpol-List: Builders log
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
I made my own from scratch, not knowing there is a place on the internet that provides a place for your log for free.http://www.mykitplane.comJust register and start building your log. Good place to go to see how others did things too. Mine goes into a database and I can that I can print out and have the ABDAR sign off on it. Don't know about a print feature but I think you could just print out each entry.Glenn W. ThomasStorrs, CThttp://www.flyingwood.com ----- Original Message -----
I made my own from scratch, not knowing there is a place on the internet that provides a place for your log for free.http://www.mykitplane.comJust register and start building your log. Good place to go to see how others did things too. Mine goes into a database and I can that I can print out and have the ABDAR sign off on it. Don't know about a print feature but I think you could just print out each entry.Glenn W. ThomasStorrs, CThttp://www.flyingwood.com ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Builders log
Original Posted By: Jim Markle
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Builders log
Original Posted By: Larry Rice
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Builders logIn a message dated 2/5/2007 4:52:35 AM Central Standard Time, pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:I just used a spiral bound notebook. I kept photos in a separate scrapbook.Jack PhillipsNX899JPMe too. A long time after certification, I scanned them, and built my web site.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:38:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Builders logIn a message dated 2/5/2007 4:52:35 AM Central Standard Time, pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net writes:I just used a spiral bound notebook. I kept photos in a separate scrapbook.Jack PhillipsNX899JPMe too. A long time after certification, I scanned them, and built my web site.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:38:56 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Builders log
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Sometimes I wonder if the inspectors go too far in their rules.I'm probably opening a can of worms here but I remember when I wanted to be a ham radio operator.They wanted us to be able to build our own radio's and be able to tear them apart and put them back together again.I never figured that it was necessary to have to go through all that in order to be an operator so I went to the CB radio band instead and had just as much fun. I never did build a radio.I have yet to build an aircraft from the ground up.I realize there is a certain amount of satisfaction in having built your own aircraft and flying it but I doubt if it makes one a better pilot.Seeing another mans work being better than mine and knowing that the plane was put together better than I could have done is good enough for me.There are builders,there are builder flyers and there are just flyers.I doubt if most of those guys flying around in Cessna's could even begin to tear it apart and put it back together again.I don't believe that a home built has to be the product of the pilot.That's my take on it anyway.>From: "gbowen(at)ptialaska.net" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: builders log>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:00:23 -0500>>>>A DAR here in FL that specilizes in writing off Lancairs has a chk list of>stuff he likes to have done before he shows for inspection. One item re>builders log is simply ck marks in the building manual as each step is>completed, instead of a written log. This is not too applicable to the>Piete but may be useful. Some pictures, recpts, etc, also required but the>only thing he seems to concern about is YOU have signed off on the fact you>built 51% of the plane, can prove it with recpts and if it looks "somewhat">airworthy. Lots of Lancairs are being built by some APs, with owner only>showing up for some of the construction. This FL DAR says he really don't>care if the owner builds it or not, who ever is the builder has to sign the>FAA form as builder. As far as he's concerned owner and builder can be two>different people.>Gordon>>Original Message:>----------------->From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:26:13 -0600>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: builders log>>>Didn't even keep a spiral notebook record and my FAA MIDO inspector was>happy with what I provided him which were>folders which had invoices of everything that I purchased broken down>categories like airframe, engine, mags/carb/prop,>and fabric/paint. I glued many construction photos to four poster>boards in chronological order and he really liked that.>I think the thing that got him to sign off my airplane is that I put on>a pot of coffee in the hangar that morning and brought>1/2 dozen donuts with me.>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------->mail2web - Check your email from the web at>http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web>>____ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Builders log
Sometimes I wonder if the inspectors go too far in their rules.I'm probably opening a can of worms here but I remember when I wanted to be a ham radio operator.They wanted us to be able to build our own radio's and be able to tear them apart and put them back together again.I never figured that it was necessary to have to go through all that in order to be an operator so I went to the CB radio band instead and had just as much fun. I never did build a radio.I have yet to build an aircraft from the ground up.I realize there is a certain amount of satisfaction in having built your own aircraft and flying it but I doubt if it makes one a better pilot.Seeing another mans work being better than mine and knowing that the plane was put together better than I could have done is good enough for me.There are builders,there are builder flyers and there are just flyers.I doubt if most of those guys flying around in Cessna's could even begin to tear it apart and put it back together again.I don't believe that a home built has to be the product of the pilot.That's my take on it anyway.>From: "gbowen(at)ptialaska.net" >Reply-To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: builders log>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 12:00:23 -0500>>>>A DAR here in FL that specilizes in writing off Lancairs has a chk list of>stuff he likes to have done before he shows for inspection. One item re>builders log is simply ck marks in the building manual as each step is>completed, instead of a written log. This is not too applicable to the>Piete but may be useful. Some pictures, recpts, etc, also required but the>only thing he seems to concern about is YOU have signed off on the fact you>built 51% of the plane, can prove it with recpts and if it looks "somewhat">airworthy. Lots of Lancairs are being built by some APs, with owner only>showing up for some of the construction. This FL DAR says he really don't>care if the owner builds it or not, who ever is the builder has to sign the>FAA form as builder. As far as he's concerned owner and builder can be two>different people.>Gordon>>Original Message:>----------------->From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] michael.d.cuy(at)nasa.gov>Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 07:26:13 -0600>To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com>Subject: Pietenpol-List: builders log>>>Didn't even keep a spiral notebook record and my FAA MIDO inspector was>happy with what I provided him which were>folders which had invoices of everything that I purchased broken down>categories like airframe, engine, mags/carb/prop,>and fabric/paint. I glued many construction photos to four poster>boards in chronological order and he really liked that.>I think the thing that got him to sign off my airplane is that I put on>a pot of coffee in the hangar that morning and brought>1/2 dozen donuts with me.>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------->mail2web - Check your email from the web at>http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web>>____ ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Builders log
Original Posted By: "Mike King"
My inspector, which I think was the same as Mike Cuy's (seriously), said "oh, youpassed, I can go ahead and leave!", as soon as he walked in the hangar andsaw the card table set up with coffee and donuts! Thanks Mike, I think you mayhave even dropped that advice to me. Anyway, my builder's log consisted ofa picture album and a bundle of receipts. Both of which he looked through. Theydid spawn a lot of questions which made for some nice small talk about airplanes.I don't think he was looking for any kind certain log, just somethingto back up the fact that I built it. Just last night I sat down with my kidsand looked through the picture album. They think it's pretty cool. The picturesgo back long before they were around!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
My inspector, which I think was the same as Mike Cuy's (seriously), said "oh, youpassed, I can go ahead and leave!", as soon as he walked in the hangar andsaw the card table set up with coffee and donuts! Thanks Mike, I think you mayhave even dropped that advice to me. Anyway, my builder's log consisted ofa picture album and a bundle of receipts. Both of which he looked through. Theydid spawn a lot of questions which made for some nice small talk about airplanes.I don't think he was looking for any kind certain log, just somethingto back up the fact that I built it. Just last night I sat down with my kidsand looked through the picture album. They think it's pretty cool. The picturesgo back long before they were around!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________