Original Posted By: del magsam
Does anyone know what a Forrest Lovely radiator weighs?Mine is installed, and I'd prefer not removing it. I'm looking at aluminum ones to see if the weigh savings is substantial.I suspect it is.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:03:25 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorThe brass radiator I build weighs 18 pounds...which is 12 pounds lighter than the brass cartridge core radiator used by Bernard. I have two original radiators here and one weighs 30 pounds, and the other weighs 31, but I suspectit is full of lots of crud and iron deposits over the years. The one that weighs30 pounds is a new-old stock one that came with an unbuilt kit that Bernard sold in 1936 and I just purchased last month. The kit is nearly complete including the engine and has never been started. It has struts, wheels, tires,landing gear, wing fittings, fuse fittings, tail skid, and all the rudder/elevator/aileron horns. The kit is just as shipped to the customer by Bernardand is quite a neat artifact. I am currently in the process of building 6 brass radiators which will be the last ones I build, I hope..!! The price of the cores used in this radiator have TRIPLED in price in the last year. Hopefully, everyone will discovera radiator that cools real well, and weighs 4 ounces, and cost less than 5 bucks.Forrest LovleyJordan MN************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorThe brass radiator I build weighs 18 pounds...which is 12 pounds lighter than the brass cartridge core radiator used by Bernard. I have two original radiators here and one weighs 30 pounds, and the other weighs 31, but I suspectit is full of lots of crud and iron deposits over the years. The one that weighs30 pounds is a new-old stock one that came with an unbuilt kit that Bernard sold in 1936 and I just purchased last month. The kit is nearly complete including the engine and has never been started. It has struts, wheels, tires,landing gear, wing fittings, fuse fittings, tail skid, and all the rudder/elevator/aileron horns. The kit is just as shipped to the customer by Bernardand is quite a neat artifact. I am currently in the process of building 6 brass radiators which will be the last ones I build, I hope..!! The price of the cores used in this radiator have TRIPLED in price in the last year. Hopefully, everyone will discovera radiator that cools real well, and weighs 4 ounces, and cost less than 5 bucks.Forrest LovleyJordan MN************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: "MICHAEL SILVIUS"
Forrest L wrote:" I am currently in the process of building 6 brass radiators which will bethe last ones I build, I hope..!! The price of the cores used in thisradiator have TRIPLED in price in the last year. Hopefully, everyone willdiscover a radiator that cools real well, and weighs 4 ounces, and cost lessthan 5 bucks"Forrest:the Mazda rotary folks have been using late model GM evaporator cores withconsistent success for some time. They are good for 300psi and the mazda dosput some high demnd on them and they hold out. They use a pair of them inparallel. Also some folks doing the Mazda conversion have used 1960s mustangheater cores that have copper ends and may be more in keeping with theclassic look of the Piet. not to costly. I bet some creative piping andperhaps a brass or copper sheet frame could make a pair of either of thesefit the look on the Ford powered Piet.here is a source to the Mustang heater cores:http://www.mustang-unl.com/Cat_keywords ... __________
Forrest L wrote:" I am currently in the process of building 6 brass radiators which will bethe last ones I build, I hope..!! The price of the cores used in thisradiator have TRIPLED in price in the last year. Hopefully, everyone willdiscover a radiator that cools real well, and weighs 4 ounces, and cost lessthan 5 bucks"Forrest:the Mazda rotary folks have been using late model GM evaporator cores withconsistent success for some time. They are good for 300psi and the mazda dosput some high demnd on them and they hold out. They use a pair of them inparallel. Also some folks doing the Mazda conversion have used 1960s mustangheater cores that have copper ends and may be more in keeping with theclassic look of the Piet. not to costly. I bet some creative piping andperhaps a brass or copper sheet frame could make a pair of either of thesefit the look on the Ford powered Piet.here is a source to the Mustang heater cores:http://www.mustang-unl.com/Cat_keywords ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Original Posted By: FTLovley(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorHi Forrest,Thanks for building these radiators for us. I am looking forward to getting mine. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorHi Forrest,Thanks for building these radiators for us. I am looking forward to getting mine. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
for an other alternative check out:http://www.techwelding.com/under products / cooling systems he does do work for aircraftmichael silvius________________________________________________________________________________
for an other alternative check out:http://www.techwelding.com/under products / cooling systems he does do work for aircraftmichael silvius________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorI'm saving the 42 pound one for Gene Ranbo...you will have to settle for the 39 pound one...:>)...FTL************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorI'm saving the 42 pound one for Gene Ranbo...you will have to settle for the 39 pound one...:>)...FTL************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorForrest,I need one of ones that are 4 oz. Ron ( Pietsrneat) told me he is OK with the 39 pounder. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiatorForrest,I need one of ones that are 4 oz. Ron ( Pietsrneat) told me he is OK with the 39 pounder. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: lovely radiator
Original Posted By: FTLovley(at)aol.com
Is the price inversely proportional to the weight???Gene ----- Original Message -----
Is the price inversely proportional to the weight???Gene ----- Original Message -----