Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Just a quick question for the group so that I can say "DOH - Why didn'tI see that?" This refers to the page of the original Pietenpol family drawingslabeled Drawing No. 1: looking at the middle fuselage diagram labeled:Inside Constructional View of Fuselage. Thus we are looking at a planview of the top of the fuselage. Located at the tail are threedimensions: 7", 6" and 2". The 2" dimension appears to be a 1/8" gussetplate set above the top rails. I believe this location is where thehorizontal stab would attach. If this is so, it would seem that a 1/8"gusset plate would not be strong enough to hold the stab in place. Am Imissing something here?The rest of the fuse is far enough along that I was able to sit in itfor the first time and make airplane noises. What a blast!Tom StinemetzeThe Airplane Nut____ | ____ 8/ / ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Squishing the ends
Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends
Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
I haven't had to do this yet but could you devise some kind of clamp that makesit easy to square things up with respect to a side. If you used blocks to raisethe clamp up to the level of the vise, the clamp might help keep your referenceangle the same on both ends. I'm sure there are other ways to do this butthese problems with custom solutions are the things I love about this project.Should be easy enough to make too.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/clam ... __________
I haven't had to do this yet but could you devise some kind of clamp that makesit easy to square things up with respect to a side. If you used blocks to raisethe clamp up to the level of the vise, the clamp might help keep your referenceangle the same on both ends. I'm sure there are other ways to do this butthese problems with custom solutions are the things I love about this project.Should be easy enough to make too.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/clam ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends
Original Posted By: "Catdesigns"
Anyone have a good method to ensure the squished ends of the spreader bars (wood gear), rudder bar, and tube connecting the sticks are in the same plane (or parallel or however you would describe it). I can squish them just fine. I just cant seem to get both end in the same plane. Any suggestions?Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Anyone have a good method to ensure the squished ends of the spreader bars (wood gear), rudder bar, and tube connecting the sticks are in the same plane (or parallel or however you would describe it). I can squish them just fine. I just cant seem to get both end in the same plane. Any suggestions?Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Crosswinds & aileron
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
As I recall the BD-10 jet had two control sticks. One for one for high speed and a less sensitive one for low speed. Maybe you can add a side stick with more throw.Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com----- Original Message -----
As I recall the BD-10 jet had two control sticks. One for one for high speed and a less sensitive one for low speed. Maybe you can add a side stick with more throw.Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
Original Posted By: "Tom Stinemetze"
My take on it. The stab is not attached to the 1/8th-inch plate. I believe the plans want you to screw the stab into the longeron. Check out the note on the next page that says attach longeron with 1-3/4-inch No. 7 screws. Also notice the spacing on the holes, it seems to match the width of the fuselage. I don't plan on using screws.Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com----- Original Message -----
My take on it. The stab is not attached to the 1/8th-inch plate. I believe the plans want you to screw the stab into the longeron. Check out the note on the next page that says attach longeron with 1-3/4-inch No. 7 screws. Also notice the spacing on the holes, it seems to match the width of the fuselage. I don't plan on using screws.Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
Re: Pietenpol-List: Crosswinds & aileron
Original Posted By: Clif Dawson
RE: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainTom,Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal stab. I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons. No way those willpull out. I kid around about worshiping at the alter of BHP, but I do compromise on certain things. One of these is the Ford A engine. I am going tohave two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb (recommended by Douwe fromthis list). I also had the Ford A modernized with the hardened valve seats, modern valves, pistons, counterweighted crank ,and modern bearings. I want a good reliable powerplant. My motivation is thinking ahead about giving my grandchildren rides. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainTom,Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal stab. I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons. No way those willpull out. I kid around about worshiping at the alter of BHP, but I do compromise on certain things. One of these is the Ford A engine. I am going tohave two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb (recommended by Douwe fromthis list). I also had the Ford A modernized with the hardened valve seats, modern valves, pistons, counterweighted crank ,and modern bearings. I want a good reliable powerplant. My motivation is thinking ahead about giving my grandchildren rides. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the endsChris,On some occasions I reheated some parts and twisted them back into the same plane. Probably not the best thing to do. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:48:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the endsChris,On some occasions I reheated some parts and twisted them back into the same plane. Probably not the best thing to do. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 07:48:32 -0400
RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainJack,I am so glad you responded to my post, because up till now I was going to use regular nuts on those horizontal stab bolts, until I asked myself "I wonder why Jack is using nut plates?" DUH!! Then I asked myself "How are yougoing to get TO the nuts or remove the stab if you have to dummy? !!" Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:20:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainJack,I am so glad you responded to my post, because up till now I was going to use regular nuts on those horizontal stab bolts, until I asked myself "I wonder why Jack is using nut plates?" DUH!! Then I asked myself "How are yougoing to get TO the nuts or remove the stab if you have to dummy? !!" Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brainDate: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:20:58 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing weight
Original Posted By: TBYH(at)aol.com
Hi Chuck,I've a lot to learn, but 110lbs seems like a very impressive number. Started thinkingof numerous questions to ask, but did a google search of NX770CG first.Thanks for putting together an excellent website. The page showing wing constructionwas extremely informative. That did more to counter my "aluminum" musingsthan anything else. You have a beautiful plane,GeneBTW: Had some nice days in PA this week and had my motorcycle out for the firsttime this year. As I was riding I was thinking "OK, would an AirCamper be likethe bike, and a Sonex, or 601 more like my car?" When not actually travellinganywhere, and the weather is nice, the car sits in the garage. :DRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Hi Chuck,I've a lot to learn, but 110lbs seems like a very impressive number. Started thinkingof numerous questions to ask, but did a google search of NX770CG first.Thanks for putting together an excellent website. The page showing wing constructionwas extremely informative. That did more to counter my "aluminum" musingsthan anything else. You have a beautiful plane,GeneBTW: Had some nice days in PA this week and had my motorcycle out for the firsttime this year. As I was riding I was thinking "OK, would an AirCamper be likethe bike, and a Sonex, or 601 more like my car?" When not actually travellinganywhere, and the weather is nice, the car sits in the garage. :DRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________