Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneGuys,I have reached a milestone today. I was finally able to bring down my one-piece wing from the wall and assemble it to the fuselage. Boy does it feelgood. Here are some pics to spur on the others behind me. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneLooks great Dan! Maybe my next trip to Rockford I can see her in person. Naturally that's if you're willing to show her off over a brew!John Recine**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneLooks great Dan! Maybe my next trip to Rockford I can see her in person. Naturally that's if you're willing to show her off over a brew!John Recine**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:09:43 -0800
Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneNow that is one beautiful piece of craftmanship. You should be very proud. I am just to see the picture.Corky**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:54:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneNow that is one beautiful piece of craftmanship. You should be very proud. I am just to see the picture.Corky**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:54:11 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: Re: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: "Steve Ruse"
Dan, Is it possible for you to post a couple of close-ups of your jury-strut fittings? Workmanship looks great! I like the color of your metal fittings andstruts.DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Dan, Is it possible for you to post a couple of close-ups of your jury-strut fittings? Workmanship looks great! I like the color of your metal fittings andstruts.DanRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
I want to replace the J-3 cub style "eyebrows" on my GN-1 Aircamper. I can't seem to stop all the cracks in these things.I would like to build essentially a square baffle, instead of the rounded design like the J3 baffle. What are the design considerations for these baffles? The only criteria I believe I've ever seen is that you are to have a certain pressure differential between the top and bottom of the cylinders to maintain adequate cooling. Obviously that would be difficult to calculate accurately.My plan is to essentially match the frontal area of the J3 baffle, and have a similar downard taper towards the rear of the baffle. My guess is that this is to increase pressure above the cylinders, to maintain adequate cooling flow accross the cylinders.What am I missing? Who else here has created their own baffles, and what am I not thinking about? I fly this plane a LOT, so these have to cool the engine properly.Steve RuseNorman, OK ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
I want to replace the J-3 cub style "eyebrows" on my GN-1 Aircamper. I can't seem to stop all the cracks in these things.I would like to build essentially a square baffle, instead of the rounded design like the J3 baffle. What are the design considerations for these baffles? The only criteria I believe I've ever seen is that you are to have a certain pressure differential between the top and bottom of the cylinders to maintain adequate cooling. Obviously that would be difficult to calculate accurately.My plan is to essentially match the frontal area of the J3 baffle, and have a similar downard taper towards the rear of the baffle. My guess is that this is to increase pressure above the cylinders, to maintain adequate cooling flow accross the cylinders.What am I missing? Who else here has created their own baffles, and what am I not thinking about? I fly this plane a LOT, so these have to cool the engine properly.Steve RuseNorman, OK ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Assembly milestoneDan,Thank you for the encouragement. I really really appreciate it. Here are a few detail photos. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:38:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Assembly milestoneDan,Thank you for the encouragement. I really really appreciate it. Here are a few detail photos. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:38:56 -0500
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
I use the same cups as Clif except I don't buy them. I guess for 4.20 maybe Ishould. McDonalds puts them out for ketchup. The guilt dissipates quickly. After I rob McDonalds I go to Starbucks and get some wooden T-88 applicators,I mean, stirrers. So far no high speed chases have ensued.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:22:12 -0800 (PST)
I use the same cups as Clif except I don't buy them. I guess for 4.20 maybe Ishould. McDonalds puts them out for ketchup. The guilt dissipates quickly. After I rob McDonalds I go to Starbucks and get some wooden T-88 applicators,I mean, stirrers. So far no high speed chases have ensued.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 15:22:12 -0800 (PST)
Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneRick,Thank you. Yea, I was thinking there might be something wrong with that prop too. This just confirms it. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestoneRick,Thank you. Yea, I was thinking there might be something wrong with that prop too. This just confirms it. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital ScaleGlenn,Now that's what I call scrounging! Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital ScaleGlenn,Now that's what I call scrounging! Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-produc ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Continental A-75 Cooling Baffles (eyebrows)
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
Resin 100 parts / Hardener 83 parts BY WEIGHT - From a call to System 3No problem with my "discovery". I got the mfr ration by weighing what I visuallycompared. If you take your time, take your project seriously and measure carefully,you will be fine. I agree with every point Bill made and have been using same type of mixing processas he has and don't think new builders should have cause for concern if theyhave been measuring visually by equal volume and doing it carefully.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:56:24 -0800 (PST)
Resin 100 parts / Hardener 83 parts BY WEIGHT - From a call to System 3No problem with my "discovery". I got the mfr ration by weighing what I visuallycompared. If you take your time, take your project seriously and measure carefully,you will be fine. I agree with every point Bill made and have been using same type of mixing processas he has and don't think new builders should have cause for concern if theyhave been measuring visually by equal volume and doing it carefully.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:56:24 -0800 (PST)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Beautiful job Dan, thanks for sharing.Gang,In the current issue of CONTACT! Magazine, our very own Oscar Zunigapresented an entertaining and well received article that explores the ideaof building a Henderson Longster as a part 103 legal ultralight. Althoughour magazine usually doesn't delve into ultralights, I received a lot ofmail asking for more "low and slow" and antique style aircraft, like what weuse to get in To Fly.So with that, and motivated by Dan's inspirational photos, I'd like to askthe group to help me put together several Pietenpol articles that might helpto showcase the gambit of creativity and craftsmanship spread throughoutthis community.I'm sure if I ask nicely, OZ can help spearhead this effort, and with that,maybe we can expand the scope of CONTACT! to include a regular presentationrepresenting open cockpits and flying wires. I would most likely want to feature a minimum of three-fouraircraft/projects. Unlike most magazines that think featuring somethingincomplete is taboo, we feel that our readers break down to the kind of"mechanics" (for a lack of a better word) that would love nothing more thanspending an afternoon in a fellow builder's hanger, proposing over the workin progress. but I digress.I'd like to feature a 100% bone stock version of something that could haveeasily been hand-crafted by Bernard himself, back in the 30's. Of coursesince he pioneered the Corvair for use in experimental aviation, I'd like tosee a Corvair powered version too. I'd also like to feature the mostoutrageous version available, maybe something with a turbo Sube, constantspeed prop, glass cockpit, what ever. a "modern" version if you will. And then I'd like to feature something middle of the road; kinda like whatBernard would design/build today (and still be an Aircamper). hydraulicbrakes, transponder, liberal use of composites or other modern materials,etc. or something that represents the current builder that's not 100%concerned about keeping to the plans. Thanks!!!Pat PanzeraEditor(at)ContactMagazine.com _____
Beautiful job Dan, thanks for sharing.Gang,In the current issue of CONTACT! Magazine, our very own Oscar Zunigapresented an entertaining and well received article that explores the ideaof building a Henderson Longster as a part 103 legal ultralight. Althoughour magazine usually doesn't delve into ultralights, I received a lot ofmail asking for more "low and slow" and antique style aircraft, like what weuse to get in To Fly.So with that, and motivated by Dan's inspirational photos, I'd like to askthe group to help me put together several Pietenpol articles that might helpto showcase the gambit of creativity and craftsmanship spread throughoutthis community.I'm sure if I ask nicely, OZ can help spearhead this effort, and with that,maybe we can expand the scope of CONTACT! to include a regular presentationrepresenting open cockpits and flying wires. I would most likely want to feature a minimum of three-fouraircraft/projects. Unlike most magazines that think featuring somethingincomplete is taboo, we feel that our readers break down to the kind of"mechanics" (for a lack of a better word) that would love nothing more thanspending an afternoon in a fellow builder's hanger, proposing over the workin progress. but I digress.I'd like to feature a 100% bone stock version of something that could haveeasily been hand-crafted by Bernard himself, back in the 30's. Of coursesince he pioneered the Corvair for use in experimental aviation, I'd like tosee a Corvair powered version too. I'd also like to feature the mostoutrageous version available, maybe something with a turbo Sube, constantspeed prop, glass cockpit, what ever. a "modern" version if you will. And then I'd like to feature something middle of the road; kinda like whatBernard would design/build today (and still be an Aircamper). hydraulicbrakes, transponder, liberal use of composites or other modern materials,etc. or something that represents the current builder that's not 100%concerned about keeping to the plans. Thanks!!!Pat PanzeraEditor(at)ContactMagazine.com _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: Patrick Panzera
Hi Pat,I will forward this request to Greg Bacon. Greg is the current owner of Mountain Piet, the turbo-Subaru powered Piet that is undergoing a wing reconstruction after a landing mishap.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
Hi Pat,I will forward this request to Greg Bacon. Greg is the current owner of Mountain Piet, the turbo-Subaru powered Piet that is undergoing a wing reconstruction after a landing mishap.Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Digital Scale
Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Glenn Thomas wrote:> Resin 100 parts / Hardener 83 parts BY WEIGHT - From a call to System 3> > No problem with my "discovery". I got the mfr ration by weighing what I visuallycompared. If you take your time, take your project seriously and measurecarefully, you will be fine. > > I agree with every point Bill made and have been using same type of mixing processas he has and don't think new builders should have cause for concern ifthey have been measuring visually by equal volume and doing it carefully.It's quite true that with care and common sense volume mixing works alright. Ifind mixing by weight faster and easier, maybe coz I've done it that way for twentyyears. In my opinion mixing by weight is more consistent and does not involveany interpretation of liquid levels or whatever. And the weight ratio isthe "gospel" to use the term again, and I prefer to do things that way withoutan interpretive step in between. Yes to the other post - they are formulatedso that the volume ratios end up at 1:1, using equivalent weight and specificgravity information. And erring a little bit of either side of ideal won't causeany significant problems, although the shift from ideal properties is certainlyrelated to the level of error. You will also find the weight ratio on thedata sheet - it is provided for those that prefer to mix by weight. I just find mixing by weight easier, and I trust it far more than volume mixing.To me, anytime you are mixing epoxy there is the possibility of error with anymethod. 100 to 83 is dead nuts simple - pour what looks like enough resin intoa mixing vessel on a tared scale. Scribble the weight on a piece of paperbeside you as backup to your memory. Multiply by 0.83 with a $2.99 calculator.Add that much curative. If you overshoot, pick out the excess if not blendedby the motion of pouring, or divide the excess by 0.83 and add resin to adjust.Takes three times as long to write as to do. And to cross check things forthose with a penchant for recording their every move - keeping a table of yourbatch weights (A&B) is fast and easy, and you can check back to look for errorsshould something happen. It's common practice in some industries to recordthose details for any composition involving mixing of two or more components.Next time I get the chance, it will be an interesting little exercise to mix afew batches by volume, recording the vessel + A weight and the total weight, andcompare accuracy to batches mixed by weight.Do what works best for you, but I thought the significance of mixing by weightmight be of interest to some.--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:19:31 -0500
Glenn Thomas wrote:> Resin 100 parts / Hardener 83 parts BY WEIGHT - From a call to System 3> > No problem with my "discovery". I got the mfr ration by weighing what I visuallycompared. If you take your time, take your project seriously and measurecarefully, you will be fine. > > I agree with every point Bill made and have been using same type of mixing processas he has and don't think new builders should have cause for concern ifthey have been measuring visually by equal volume and doing it carefully.It's quite true that with care and common sense volume mixing works alright. Ifind mixing by weight faster and easier, maybe coz I've done it that way for twentyyears. In my opinion mixing by weight is more consistent and does not involveany interpretation of liquid levels or whatever. And the weight ratio isthe "gospel" to use the term again, and I prefer to do things that way withoutan interpretive step in between. Yes to the other post - they are formulatedso that the volume ratios end up at 1:1, using equivalent weight and specificgravity information. And erring a little bit of either side of ideal won't causeany significant problems, although the shift from ideal properties is certainlyrelated to the level of error. You will also find the weight ratio on thedata sheet - it is provided for those that prefer to mix by weight. I just find mixing by weight easier, and I trust it far more than volume mixing.To me, anytime you are mixing epoxy there is the possibility of error with anymethod. 100 to 83 is dead nuts simple - pour what looks like enough resin intoa mixing vessel on a tared scale. Scribble the weight on a piece of paperbeside you as backup to your memory. Multiply by 0.83 with a $2.99 calculator.Add that much curative. If you overshoot, pick out the excess if not blendedby the motion of pouring, or divide the excess by 0.83 and add resin to adjust.Takes three times as long to write as to do. And to cross check things forthose with a penchant for recording their every move - keeping a table of yourbatch weights (A&B) is fast and easy, and you can check back to look for errorsshould something happen. It's common practice in some industries to recordthose details for any composition involving mixing of two or more components.Next time I get the chance, it will be an interesting little exercise to mix afew batches by volume, recording the vessel + A weight and the total weight, andcompare accuracy to batches mixed by weight.Do what works best for you, but I thought the significance of mixing by weightmight be of interest to some.--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:19:31 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: Assembly milestone
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Sounds great!Thanks!Pat _____
Sounds great!Thanks!Pat _____