Original Posted By: Ryan Michals
I can't imagine windscreens that are any simpler than the ones on 41CC. Curvedplexiglas, no frame, and 5 plain mounting tabs on each. I assume that theywere made by starting out with poster-board templates trimmed till they fit andlooked right, then the outline marked on the plexi and cut out and smoothed.The ones on Steve Eldredge's and Ernie Moreno's airplanes are a bit lower profilethan mine but I find mine to be about as low as I would like and I hunkerdown behind it when it's cold.The flat-panel ones look more antique-y but the simple curved ones are about assimple as you're going to find.I have cut thin acrylic and Lexan using the cutoff wheel (abrasive wheel) in myDremel tool. It seems to cut as much by "melting" its way through the materialas it does by mechanical cutting, and next time I try it I'll be outdoors becauseit creates quite a mess of little particles everywhere.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:49:21 -0800 (PST)
Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Yes, I've heard that Lexan (polycarbonate sheet) can be bent cold. Aircraft Sprucecarries four thicknesses of it and I believe it would require a 2x4 sheetto make two windscreens from. The 1/16" stock is way too thin, in my opinion.That leaves 5/64", 3/32", and 1/8". My windscreens are 1/8" thick plexiglasand it's fairly stout to bend into shape so one of the lighter thicknesses wouldprobably work OK. All three of those sheets are about the same price (lessthan $30), so it won't kill you financially to experiment and ruin a sheetif it doesn't work.I would be a bit wary of using Lexan up front on my airplane because my fuel filleris just forward of the passenger's windscreen and from what I understand,Lexan and gas don't play well together.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:32:23 -0500
Yes, I've heard that Lexan (polycarbonate sheet) can be bent cold. Aircraft Sprucecarries four thicknesses of it and I believe it would require a 2x4 sheetto make two windscreens from. The 1/16" stock is way too thin, in my opinion.That leaves 5/64", 3/32", and 1/8". My windscreens are 1/8" thick plexiglasand it's fairly stout to bend into shape so one of the lighter thicknesses wouldprobably work OK. All three of those sheets are about the same price (lessthan $30), so it won't kill you financially to experiment and ruin a sheetif it doesn't work.I would be a bit wary of using Lexan up front on my airplane because my fuel filleris just forward of the passenger's windscreen and from what I understand,Lexan and gas don't play well together.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:32:23 -0500
RE: Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
RE: Pietenpol-List: finger pull latches mike cuy
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
RE: Pietenpol-List: re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Oscar,That is a very generous offer. I have sent you all but the 130 meg one, as itstoo big for hotmail.Let me know what you think.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: re: windscreensDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:53:14 -0500
Oscar,That is a very generous offer. I have sent you all but the 130 meg one, as itstoo big for hotmail.Let me know what you think.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: re: windscreensDate: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:53:14 -0500
Pietenpol-List: re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Jack,Those look great, now I am starting to consider going with faceted windshields..looks like a lot of work. Still might try the simple one first.. How much time you think you will end up having spent building those?JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Jack,Those look great, now I am starting to consider going with faceted windshields..looks like a lot of work. Still might try the simple one first.. How much time you think you will end up having spent building those?JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "DJ Vegh"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: re: windscreensJack,This is very timely. Exactly the info and pictures I need at precisely the right time. Beautiful work. Do you have any more pictures of your cockpit combing that you can share? Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exer ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: re: windscreensJack,This is very timely. Exactly the info and pictures I need at precisely the right time. Beautiful work. Do you have any more pictures of your cockpit combing that you can share? Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exer ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Max Hegler"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: windscreensKen wrote:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Yes, I've heard that Lexan ____________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exer ... __________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: windscreensKen wrote:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga Yes, I've heard that Lexan ____________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exer ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
Ken,I would be interested in seeing your three samples...could save me building time...I'm ready to fly...Max ----- Original Message -----
Ken,I would be interested in seeing your three samples...could save me building time...I'm ready to fly...Max ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
I'm in Elgin Il, in between Rockford and Chicago. Are there pictures available?You can use my email jmccarth(at)aim.com. I have tried emailing the address inthe link but it has been kicked back to me each time.JackRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreensDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:30:35 -0500
I'm in Elgin Il, in between Rockford and Chicago. Are there pictures available?You can use my email jmccarth(at)aim.com. I have tried emailing the address inthe link but it has been kicked back to me each time.JackRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreensDate: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:30:35 -0500
Re: Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: Max Hegler
Max, I've been wondering how your coming along with your project. Have you decided on an engine yet? When the weather improves I'd like to fly over and take a look. Gene ----- Original Message -----
Max, I've been wondering how your coming along with your project. Have you decided on an engine yet? When the weather improves I'd like to fly over and take a look. Gene ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "jimd"
Let us know how the shipping works out.I bought some .040 3003 aluminum locally to use for my leading edge wrap. (Itsheavier than I wanted, but was 50 a sheet for 12'x4ft..). I bought a sheet of8x4ft for 40 just to have it for other stuff, like maybe my cowling bumps, themounting brackets for the windshield, that sort of thing.Think wood probably would work better. Only reason for going aluminum was thatmy top wing was already wrapped with it and didn't want to pay a lot of shipping.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Let us know how the shipping works out.I bought some .040 3003 aluminum locally to use for my leading edge wrap. (Itsheavier than I wanted, but was 50 a sheet for 12'x4ft..). I bought a sheet of8x4ft for 40 just to have it for other stuff, like maybe my cowling bumps, themounting brackets for the windshield, that sort of thing.Think wood probably would work better. Only reason for going aluminum was thatmy top wing was already wrapped with it and didn't want to pay a lot of shipping.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Brian Kraut"
Never did find a good template, so I ended up making one myself. Took some stiffcardboard, curved it about the way I thought it should be, taped it so the curvewould stay in it. (big rectangle just the middle bowing out) and then heldit in place over the fuselage at about the right angle for a windshield. Used a compass held vertically to trace the profile of the fuselage on to the cardboard,then cut the profile out and made a few adjustments to get the cardboardto fit well. Then transfered the shape of the bottom of the windshield upto the top and cut it off so it was basically windshield shaped with straightedges.That looked too big and ugly, so I took about a three inch angle cut off each edge(started at very edge on bottom, but by top it was three inches narrower.That helped a bit. Did it a second time and it looked much better. Then droppeddown a bit from the top edge and used the compass to get a round edge.. thatlooked pretty good.Once the template looked okay, the cutting commenced. Thought it would take a lotof tries, so I had enough plexiglass to cut about 6 windshields out. Read thata Rotozip tool works great to cut plexiglass. Mom gave me one last year, neverhad used it, tried it and have to agree, it really is good for cutting plexiglass.Traced the outline of my template, cut off a manageable chunk from the4x8 sheet of plexiglass, put it on a padded table with support up pretty closeto the cutting line and cut it. It was kind of wavy at first, but managedto get the hang of it pretty good and allowed enough space outside the line toallow for grinding it to size. When I do the second one I am going to find somekind of guide to follow to get a straight line, it would save a lot of filing.Anyway it came out pretty good, clamped the rough cut piece in to my workmateand used a file to get it to what I think will be its final shape. Its quitea bit stiffer than I thought, so either its going to have to have strong bracketsbending it or I may have to heat it and put a bend in it somehow.Was fun to make, still not done yet. Not sure its a good idea to put the windshieldon all the way and leave it with so much else to do, may fit it remove itand store it till closer to the final assembly time.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Never did find a good template, so I ended up making one myself. Took some stiffcardboard, curved it about the way I thought it should be, taped it so the curvewould stay in it. (big rectangle just the middle bowing out) and then heldit in place over the fuselage at about the right angle for a windshield. Used a compass held vertically to trace the profile of the fuselage on to the cardboard,then cut the profile out and made a few adjustments to get the cardboardto fit well. Then transfered the shape of the bottom of the windshield upto the top and cut it off so it was basically windshield shaped with straightedges.That looked too big and ugly, so I took about a three inch angle cut off each edge(started at very edge on bottom, but by top it was three inches narrower.That helped a bit. Did it a second time and it looked much better. Then droppeddown a bit from the top edge and used the compass to get a round edge.. thatlooked pretty good.Once the template looked okay, the cutting commenced. Thought it would take a lotof tries, so I had enough plexiglass to cut about 6 windshields out. Read thata Rotozip tool works great to cut plexiglass. Mom gave me one last year, neverhad used it, tried it and have to agree, it really is good for cutting plexiglass.Traced the outline of my template, cut off a manageable chunk from the4x8 sheet of plexiglass, put it on a padded table with support up pretty closeto the cutting line and cut it. It was kind of wavy at first, but managedto get the hang of it pretty good and allowed enough space outside the line toallow for grinding it to size. When I do the second one I am going to find somekind of guide to follow to get a straight line, it would save a lot of filing.Anyway it came out pretty good, clamped the rough cut piece in to my workmateand used a file to get it to what I think will be its final shape. Its quitea bit stiffer than I thought, so either its going to have to have strong bracketsbending it or I may have to heat it and put a bend in it somehow.Was fun to make, still not done yet. Not sure its a good idea to put the windshieldon all the way and leave it with so much else to do, may fit it remove itand store it till closer to the final assembly time.JimRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
To:pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22Jim, He can't. Ask any purist. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.----------------________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:51:55 -0700
To:pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22Jim, He can't. Ask any purist. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.----------------________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:51:55 -0700
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "jimd"
JimBe sure to hold on to your template just in case. I re- made my windscreen several times. If it isnt high enough the wind comes over and makes it hard to talk on the radio. To big and it doesnt look that great. Flying the other day in cold temp was comfortable with no wind in the cockpit.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
JimBe sure to hold on to your template just in case. I re- made my windscreen several times. If it isnt high enough the wind comes over and makes it hard to talk on the radio. To big and it doesnt look that great. Flying the other day in cold temp was comfortable with no wind in the cockpit.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Puracrite. Like a hipocrite. As in mine's not really a purist's Pietenpol,but your's better be or call it something else? Jim-----Original Message-----
Puracrite. Like a hipocrite. As in mine's not really a purist's Pietenpol,but your's better be or call it something else? Jim-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22FYI, neither is mine, but its still a Piet, wide body and improved to meet my needs. Guess what, here's a real surprise I even used epoxy rather than thepurist casein glue, that Bernie and all the other purist used in their builds. All the purists out there building are using casein glue, aren't they?Actually, if its not the exact same materials, constructed using the same techniques and tools, hand saws etc exactly the way Bernie did it than by thepurist definition none can be called a Piet.However, following the innovative spirit of Bernie its creator and the idea of it being experimental in nature, design and construction, well you decide.Which is the pure for the construction and detailed pursuit of purity duplicating the build to exacting the specifications and materials of followingthe concept of the creation by its creator?Again one has to define the term and sense of the purest. I am following the plans and making changes to suit my needs, to quote another builder" its your airplane , build it the way you want it! Thanks Michael Cuy and as previously stated in person, I really enjoyed the video! and looking forward to the day I can park my build next to all the other quality built ships at Broadhead.Will the real Pietenpol Aircamper please stand up, till then keep on gluing!JohnIn a message dated 1/29/2008 2:17:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "James" Puracrite. Like a hipocrite. As in mine's not really a purist's Pietenpol,but your's better be or call it something else?Jim-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oversize piet or Fairchild 22FYI, neither is mine, but its still a Piet, wide body and improved to meet my needs. Guess what, here's a real surprise I even used epoxy rather than thepurist casein glue, that Bernie and all the other purist used in their builds. All the purists out there building are using casein glue, aren't they?Actually, if its not the exact same materials, constructed using the same techniques and tools, hand saws etc exactly the way Bernie did it than by thepurist definition none can be called a Piet.However, following the innovative spirit of Bernie its creator and the idea of it being experimental in nature, design and construction, well you decide.Which is the pure for the construction and detailed pursuit of purity duplicating the build to exacting the specifications and materials of followingthe concept of the creation by its creator?Again one has to define the term and sense of the purest. I am following the plans and making changes to suit my needs, to quote another builder" its your airplane , build it the way you want it! Thanks Michael Cuy and as previously stated in person, I really enjoyed the video! and looking forward to the day I can park my build next to all the other quality built ships at Broadhead.Will the real Pietenpol Aircamper please stand up, till then keep on gluing!JohnIn a message dated 1/29/2008 2:17:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jthursby(at)tampabay.rr.com writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "James" Puracrite. Like a hipocrite. As in mine's not really a purist's Pietenpol,but your's better be or call it something else?Jim-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
RickYou are right, no one dimension would be the same for all. Sit in your plane with your flying helmet on. The top of the windscreen should be at least parallel with the top of your head. The overall height of the lexan on mine is 19" as I recall. But as it is cocked back at about 35 degrees I dont know what the clearance is to the the bottom of the center section of the wing, not that yours would be the same.Dick ----- Original Message -----
RickYou are right, no one dimension would be the same for all. Sit in your plane with your flying helmet on. The top of the windscreen should be at least parallel with the top of your head. The overall height of the lexan on mine is 19" as I recall. But as it is cocked back at about 35 degrees I dont know what the clearance is to the the bottom of the center section of the wing, not that yours would be the same.Dick ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Chris"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: windscreens UNCLASSIFIEDOK I now realize that I was unclear in the email below. The plane I have has acutout. I am interested in windscreens and various ideas for windscreens,Needed on both, front? height, Shape, and ease of installation are important details.There is a plastic company near me.One guy has suggested no windscreens, just goggles and a bandana. Blue Skies, Steve D On 06/02/13, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > UNCLASSIFIED> What materiel is gasoline resistant that will do what we want? I looked up plexand Lexan and The chemical sheet said that Lexan would resist benzine, butPlex would not. Mine has a nose tank and a Center section wing AUX tank.> > Blue Skies,> Steve > > > On 06/02/13, Ken Bickers wrote:> > Clif, one additional consideration you might throw into the mix. If you areplanning a center section fuel tank, gasoline at some point will inevitably trickledown the wing onto the lexan. That stuff really doesn't like gas. Ifyou are planning a nose tank, this wouldn't be an issue. Ken> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:> > > > > Why not have the best of both worlds?> > > > > > The open areas will be covered in lexan.> > > > > > Clif> > > > > > "The true method of knowledge is experiment." (William Blake(blockedhttp://quote.robertgenn.com/auth_search.php?name=William+Blake))> > > > > > > > > In a steep turn, when chasing that Hun as he tries to out-turn you, you havea splendid view through the cutout over the wing.> > > I like the look of the cutout, but the flop is also a neat solution> > > Jack Phillips> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED> > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: windscreens UNCLASSIFIEDOK I now realize that I was unclear in the email below. The plane I have has acutout. I am interested in windscreens and various ideas for windscreens,Needed on both, front? height, Shape, and ease of installation are important details.There is a plastic company near me.One guy has suggested no windscreens, just goggles and a bandana. Blue Skies, Steve D On 06/02/13, "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA NGB" wrote:> > UNCLASSIFIED> What materiel is gasoline resistant that will do what we want? I looked up plexand Lexan and The chemical sheet said that Lexan would resist benzine, butPlex would not. Mine has a nose tank and a Center section wing AUX tank.> > Blue Skies,> Steve > > > On 06/02/13, Ken Bickers wrote:> > Clif, one additional consideration you might throw into the mix. If you areplanning a center section fuel tank, gasoline at some point will inevitably trickledown the wing onto the lexan. That stuff really doesn't like gas. Ifyou are planning a nose tank, this wouldn't be an issue. Ken> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Clif Dawson wrote:> > > > > Why not have the best of both worlds?> > > > > > The open areas will be covered in lexan.> > > > > > Clif> > > > > > "The true method of knowledge is experiment." (William Blake(blockedhttp://quote.robertgenn.com/auth_search.php?name=William+Blake))> > > > > > > > > In a steep turn, when chasing that Hun as he tries to out-turn you, you havea splendid view through the cutout over the wing.> > > I like the look of the cutout, but the flop is also a neat solution> > > Jack Phillips> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UNCLASSIFIED> > UNCLASSIFIED________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
All of you missed a great time at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering held inFrazier Lake Airport. As always it was excellently hosted by Charlie Millerand his family who works so hard and treats us all like family. I must alsomention it's organized and promoted by Mike Groah. A BIG thanks goes to bothof you guys.We had a lot of fun and had 7 Pietenpol (type) planes fly in. Two more triedto get there but for various reasons were not able to make it. I didn't geta head count but there were a bunch of people looking at the Pietenpols andenjoying the barbeque chicken (50 ish) lunch. We were pleasantly surprisedthis year to have Kevin Purtee and his wife Shelly all the way from Texas.It is always nice to meet Pietenpol people who I feel I know even though wehave never met. Maybe they will be the first out of state Pietenpol to makethe journey to our gathering when they get their replacement Pietenpolflying.Attached are pictures of the 7 airplanes that flew in, and a few more foratmosphere. I want to personally thank all those that flew their planes in,and those that tried, your effort is makes this event what it is. ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
All of you missed a great time at the West Coast Pietenpol Gathering held inFrazier Lake Airport. As always it was excellently hosted by Charlie Millerand his family who works so hard and treats us all like family. I must alsomention it's organized and promoted by Mike Groah. A BIG thanks goes to bothof you guys.We had a lot of fun and had 7 Pietenpol (type) planes fly in. Two more triedto get there but for various reasons were not able to make it. I didn't geta head count but there were a bunch of people looking at the Pietenpols andenjoying the barbeque chicken (50 ish) lunch. We were pleasantly surprisedthis year to have Kevin Purtee and his wife Shelly all the way from Texas.It is always nice to meet Pietenpol people who I feel I know even though wehave never met. Maybe they will be the first out of state Pietenpol to makethe journey to our gathering when they get their replacement Pietenpolflying.Attached are pictures of the 7 airplanes that flew in, and a few more foratmosphere. I want to personally thank all those that flew their planes in,and those that tried, your effort is makes this event what it is. ChrisSacramento, CaWestcoastpiet.com________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Re: Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: Hans van der Voort
Hans, I think they were talking about using Lexan or some other clear plastic to cover the "flop" to increase visiblity when the flop is down. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
Hans, I think they were talking about using Lexan or some other clear plastic to cover the "flop" to increase visiblity when the flop is down. Chuck ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: windscreens
Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
In case nobody mentioned it yet, most Gregas mount the landing gear legs to thefuselage with one mount point where the wing lift strut also joins to the fuselage,but with the other mount point non-concurrent with the other lift strutmount point. If you look at the pix that Chris Rusch just posted of his beautifulairplane, the side shot shows that the gear legs mount at the same spotsas the wing lift struts. Classic Air Camper configuration.Steve, I believe you have yourself a hermaphroditic agglomeration with accretionsand synthetizations. It's an AirGregation of Piet Camper parts. I'll betit will fly, though. And if we were in Great Britain, you would give the Brit"airplane spotters" a devil of a time trying to figure out what it is ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
In case nobody mentioned it yet, most Gregas mount the landing gear legs to thefuselage with one mount point where the wing lift strut also joins to the fuselage,but with the other mount point non-concurrent with the other lift strutmount point. If you look at the pix that Chris Rusch just posted of his beautifulairplane, the side shot shows that the gear legs mount at the same spotsas the wing lift struts. Classic Air Camper configuration.Steve, I believe you have yourself a hermaphroditic agglomeration with accretionsand synthetizations. It's an AirGregation of Piet Camper parts. I'll betit will fly, though. And if we were in Great Britain, you would give the Brit"airplane spotters" a devil of a time trying to figure out what it is ;o)--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Steve; as you know, Scout has simple curved Plexi windscreens. Easy to make, easyto attach, easy to replace when they get crazed or scratched. Like Scout'sare, now ;o) I really notice the scratches and crazing when flying into thesun, but am too lazy to do anything about it. However, for a really nifty look,go for the segmented panel ones. They are more work to make, but have someadvantages in that all the pieces of plexi are flat, so they are easy to workwith (and replace). Go right across the street to Lew Mason's and look at theones on his "Faker Fokker" Fly Baby. The frames are simple bent aluminum,and the only real fitting is on the curves that follow the boot cowl, but youcan make templates out of stiff cardboard or discarded metal and then go for it.Just don't make them too squatty... you'll regret it when flying in coolerweather.You can dispense with the front windscreen if you won't be flying pax, but don'teven think about flying with none at all. This is supposed to be fun, not endurance.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Steve; as you know, Scout has simple curved Plexi windscreens. Easy to make, easyto attach, easy to replace when they get crazed or scratched. Like Scout'sare, now ;o) I really notice the scratches and crazing when flying into thesun, but am too lazy to do anything about it. However, for a really nifty look,go for the segmented panel ones. They are more work to make, but have someadvantages in that all the pieces of plexi are flat, so they are easy to workwith (and replace). Go right across the street to Lew Mason's and look at theones on his "Faker Fokker" Fly Baby. The frames are simple bent aluminum,and the only real fitting is on the curves that follow the boot cowl, but youcan make templates out of stiff cardboard or discarded metal and then go for it.Just don't make them too squatty... you'll regret it when flying in coolerweather.You can dispense with the front windscreen if you won't be flying pax, but don'teven think about flying with none at all. This is supposed to be fun, not endurance.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: windscreens
Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (aka: "Brodhead West")
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Now that I re-read what Hans wrote, I realize that you can really make faux segmentedwindscreens by bending Lexan to form the three segments, then you couldjust attach some aluminum pieces on top of the Lexan to make it look like thereare individual segments. If you wanted to make work for yourself, that is.If you wanted to do it really faux, you could just mask off the edges of thebent Lexan and rattle-can your way to painted-on "windscreen frames", and mountthe windscreen to the boot cowl with 4 to 6 angle clips.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (aka: "Brodhead West")
Now that I re-read what Hans wrote, I realize that you can really make faux segmentedwindscreens by bending Lexan to form the three segments, then you couldjust attach some aluminum pieces on top of the Lexan to make it look like thereare individual segments. If you wanted to make work for yourself, that is.If you wanted to do it really faux, you could just mask off the edges of thebent Lexan and rattle-can your way to painted-on "windscreen frames", and mountthe windscreen to the boot cowl with 4 to 6 angle clips.--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Pietenpol Gathering (aka: "Brodhead West")
Original Posted By: V Groah
Gary,Zero "Man Points" lost.Ten "Man Points" earned.Thanks for sharing the crappy news. Hopefully others (like me) can learn fromyour misfortune.Oh, by the way, in the photo of your cracked spar, it looks like your fabric isalso torn. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Gary,Zero "Man Points" lost.Ten "Man Points" earned.Thanks for sharing the crappy news. Hopefully others (like me) can learn fromyour misfortune.Oh, by the way, in the photo of your cracked spar, it looks like your fabric isalso torn. :)Bill C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________