Original Posted By: edwinljohnson(at)bellsouth.net
Any chance of some details on that external cabeling? That might well be worth doing from a visual and functional approach. -Scott________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
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Original Posted By: Scott Schreiber
Here is another pic that may help.Dick ----- Original Message -----
Here is another pic that may help.Dick ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
Original Posted By: "Terry Hall"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT articleNot to appear to be a smart a--,I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of self locking nuts.Nathan**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT articleNot to appear to be a smart a--,I would use castle nuts & cotter pins on those pivot bolts in lieu of self locking nuts.Nathan**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Those are heim joints, no castle nut is needed. The center of the joint isnot supposed to pivot. Jim-----Original Message-----
Those are heim joints, no castle nut is needed. The center of the joint isnot supposed to pivot. Jim-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT articleSorry, my stupidity is showing again but it pays to be doubly sure.Nathan**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT articleSorry, my stupidity is showing again but it pays to be doubly sure.Nathan**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
Original Posted By: Isablcorky(at)aol.com
Those pics were taken in the construction process. Although not really required as pointed out in another response, before flying, they were changed to castle nuts with cotter pins. Also a proper fitting clevis pin was installed, it was just easier to have a longer pin in hand while installing and adjusting.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Those pics were taken in the construction process. Although not really required as pointed out in another response, before flying, they were changed to castle nuts with cotter pins. Also a proper fitting clevis pin was installed, it was just easier to have a longer pin in hand while installing and adjusting.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
Original Posted By: Dick Navratil
What I was thinking of was a stock piet system right up to the tube behind the pilots seat. At that point the tube could extend beyond the fabric and have external horns like Dick's. Only thing that would really have to be figured out is the size of the horns for the right throws/rates. Dick, any pics of those external horns you can bless us with, and your reasoning behind going pushrod rather than cable up to the tube? Absolutly wonderful work! -Scott ----- Original Message -----
What I was thinking of was a stock piet system right up to the tube behind the pilots seat. At that point the tube could extend beyond the fabric and have external horns like Dick's. Only thing that would really have to be figured out is the size of the horns for the right throws/rates. Dick, any pics of those external horns you can bless us with, and your reasoning behind going pushrod rather than cable up to the tube? Absolutly wonderful work! -Scott ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
RE: Pietenpol-List: Horizontal stab question.
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Pietenpol-List: Horizontal stab question.
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT article
Original Posted By: "Dave Abramson"
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT articleI must lend my congratulations to Dick N, as well. Excellent article, excellentspecimen!Just has to be cool flying a round engine piet!The extra features of a translucent wing and a woody fuse, and exposed cables arecool touches!Best Regards,Steve E!________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Again GREAT articleI must lend my congratulations to Dick N, as well. Excellent article, excellentspecimen!Just has to be cool flying a round engine piet!The extra features of a translucent wing and a woody fuse, and exposed cables arecool touches!Best Regards,Steve E!________________________________________________________________________________
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Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Does anyone have a spare copy of the magazine for purchase???? Or, knowwhere I can get it?????Thanks!Dave A.-----Original Message-----
Does anyone have a spare copy of the magazine for purchase???? Or, knowwhere I can get it?????Thanks!Dave A.-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: Dave Abramson
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Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal stab question.
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Axle thickness, wheel and tire sizeI'm not gonna lie. I'm too lazy to search the archives, but am ready to start on my wooden gear. What thickness should I use for the axle? I saw in the recent Sport Aviation that Dick N. used a 1 1/4" axle 1/8" thick, then put a 1" sleeve in itto fit his wheels. Also, I'm not sure what wheel size to use. The Air Camper plans show 24x4, I think. The Scout plans show a 26"x3", which look petty nice. Ron**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal stab question.
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Axle thickness, wheel and tire sizeI'm not gonna lie. I'm too lazy to search the archives, but am ready to start on my wooden gear. What thickness should I use for the axle? I saw in the recent Sport Aviation that Dick N. used a 1 1/4" axle 1/8" thick, then put a 1" sleeve in itto fit his wheels. Also, I'm not sure what wheel size to use. The Air Camper plans show 24x4, I think. The Scout plans show a 26"x3", which look petty nice. Ron**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal stab question.
Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Original Posted By: "Don Emch"
Michael,I did mine the same way too. You do want to pay attention to the plans when youattach it to the fuselage. If I remember correctly there is a plywood spacerto give it a slight incidence. Not positve, others might clarify this too.Some Piets fly with the elevator hanging down slightly. Not a problem, but itprobably wouldn't be there if there was slightly more incidence. Without trimthe position of the elevator will change if the C.G. changes too. I'm offthe subject now and this opens a whole other can of worms! I do know that I usedthe amount of spacing that was in the plans and my elevator position doeschange slightly depending on C.G. from slightly high to slightly low in cruiseflight.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Michael,I did mine the same way too. You do want to pay attention to the plans when youattach it to the fuselage. If I remember correctly there is a plywood spacerto give it a slight incidence. Not positve, others might clarify this too.Some Piets fly with the elevator hanging down slightly. Not a problem, but itprobably wouldn't be there if there was slightly more incidence. Without trimthe position of the elevator will change if the C.G. changes too. I'm offthe subject now and this opens a whole other can of worms! I do know that I usedthe amount of spacing that was in the plans and my elevator position doeschange slightly depending on C.G. from slightly high to slightly low in cruiseflight.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Original Posted By: Pietsrneat(at)aol.com
Ron,My axle 1 1/2" and 1/8" thick.Rim size is 19".Total tire height is about 25 1/2".http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 094.JPGDon EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ron,My axle 1 1/2" and 1/8" thick.Rim size is 19".Total tire height is about 25 1/2".http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 094.JPGDon EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal stab question.
Original Posted By: "MikeD"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire sizeHey there Don, Yes, I remember those wheels! I love 'em. Aren't you the one that told me a while back that you used small, circular pieces of wood next to the collar? Do you remember off hand what your tire size is?Ron In a message dated 2/6/2008 7:04:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, EmchAir(at)aol.com writes:Ron,My axle 1 1/2" and 1/8" thick.Rim size is 19".Total tire height is about 25 1/2".http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 094.JPGDon EmchNX899DE**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal stab question.
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire sizeHey there Don, Yes, I remember those wheels! I love 'em. Aren't you the one that told me a while back that you used small, circular pieces of wood next to the collar? Do you remember off hand what your tire size is?Ron In a message dated 2/6/2008 7:04:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, EmchAir(at)aol.com writes:Ron,My axle 1 1/2" and 1/8" thick.Rim size is 19".Total tire height is about 25 1/2".http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Don%20E ... 094.JPGDon EmchNX899DE**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/n ... 0000002548)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Horizontal stab question.
Original Posted By: "Dick Navratil"
[quote="dskogrover(at)yahoo.com"]Ok I have a question for all of you about my horizontalstab. ... I started thinking that having everything flat against thejig would give a slight airfoil shape when done. Michael Groah Tulare CA > Actually while it would have a tiny bit of an airfoil shape, it is upside downto what you would actually want - as the stab is generating down force duringstable upright flight. But the tiny amount of camber built into the stab donethis way is so small as to be barely worth thinking about. And it makes it easierto jig too..Happy Pieting--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
[quote="dskogrover(at)yahoo.com"]Ok I have a question for all of you about my horizontalstab. ... I started thinking that having everything flat against thejig would give a slight airfoil shape when done. Michael Groah Tulare CA > Actually while it would have a tiny bit of an airfoil shape, it is upside downto what you would actually want - as the stab is generating down force duringstable upright flight. But the tiny amount of camber built into the stab donethis way is so small as to be barely worth thinking about. And it makes it easierto jig too..Happy Pieting--------Piet-builder-who-hopes-to-be-flying-next-summerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Original Posted By: Pietsrneat(at)aol.com
RonSport Aviation got it wrong. I have a 1 1/2" axle .188 with an inner sleeve and a 1" outer axle which has been heat treated.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
RonSport Aviation got it wrong. I have a 1 1/2" axle .188 with an inner sleeve and a 1" outer axle which has been heat treated.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: Axle thickness, wheel and tire size
Original Posted By: "Mike Whaley"
Ron,Yeah, I just made a large "washer" i guess you could say that I wrapped the fabricaround then placed it over the center of the hub. I used plywood but somethinglike thin aluminum would work nice too I suppose. They are Cheng Shinn3.25 / 3.60 S19 tires. I'm not exactly sure of the rim size other than 19". What ever size it would need to be for that size tire. I remember it didn't makemuch sense to me as to why it would use that size tire. But then a lot ofthings don't always make sense to me!Good luck with the wheels!DonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Ron,Yeah, I just made a large "washer" i guess you could say that I wrapped the fabricaround then placed it over the center of the hub. I used plywood but somethinglike thin aluminum would work nice too I suppose. They are Cheng Shinn3.25 / 3.60 S19 tires. I'm not exactly sure of the rim size other than 19". What ever size it would need to be for that size tire. I remember it didn't makemuch sense to me as to why it would use that size tire. But then a lot ofthings don't always make sense to me!Good luck with the wheels!DonRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________