Original Posted By: "Robert Gow"
Boy did you ever light off a string of Chinese firecrackers, Corky. I get home,sit down to my computer to read the Pietenpol list digest and there are 47 messages,most of them about milk jugs but only one guy gives you the answer toyour question.Sure, the human body is mostly composed of water and most of us will float in saltwater without hanging onto milk jugs, but I'm not one of them (not enoughbody fat). But just for argument's sake assume you will float without jugs andthe airplane weighs about 800 lbs., and a gallon jug of water weighs about 8lbs., you'll need about 100 jugs to float your boat. Er, Aeronca that is.Now you can get all "Cat In The Hat" and start figuring out where to put them:"I'll stash them in the seat, I'll stash them by my feet. I'll stash them inthe tail, stash them where they won't fail"... good luck with the installationand also good luck with preflighting all 100 of those puppies. [Questions forthe sticklers for regulations: are the jugs to be considered required equipmentand the airplane unairworthy if one or more of them is not properly sealed?Should a logbook entry be made if the jugs are installed? Can jugs even becarried in a certified aircraft?]As to a group flight out of Key West, I'd be game for that but we'll have to seehow brother Raul feels about having "yanquis" invading his island and haulingaway all those 1950s-era cars that they have over there. And just promise tolet me share your water jugs if we go down in the Gulf.As to the other thread about altimeters, I've never had 41CC above 3000 MSL andhave just not been curious enough about the airspace above that to want to venturethere. Been up there, seen that, and the radio reception is great fromup there but I ain't got no radio in my Piet.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Didn't Lindbergh fill the wings of the Ryan with ping pong balls for thisreason? Or is that an urban legend? I think all the fuel was in thatfuselage mounted tank in front of him.Bob-----Original Message-----
Didn't Lindbergh fill the wings of the Ryan with ping pong balls for thisreason? Or is that an urban legend? I think all the fuel was in thatfuselage mounted tank in front of him.Bob-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
Oscar:No to mention what would happen to all those jugs when you climb toaltitude.Ever had a bag of chips in a plane pop at 9000K ft?I have and though technically not a true emergency I can tell you you'llneed a new pair of shorts after that experience.Michael----- Original Message -----
Oscar:No to mention what would happen to all those jugs when you climb toaltitude.Ever had a bag of chips in a plane pop at 9000K ft?I have and though technically not a true emergency I can tell you you'llneed a new pair of shorts after that experience.Michael----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
OK that was a typo - - - 9000 feet is about as good as the old Arrow willgo!!We did spend a few frightful minutes with dreadful visions of broken sparsand such trying to figure what had fallen off the plane before we finallyfigured it out and had a good laugh.Now that I think of it I remember Marcello Matocq reports he had the sameproblem even with his inflated prophylactics and it scared him just as muchtill he figured it out.Michael----- Original Message -----
OK that was a typo - - - 9000 feet is about as good as the old Arrow willgo!!We did spend a few frightful minutes with dreadful visions of broken sparsand such trying to figure what had fallen off the plane before we finallyfigured it out and had a good laugh.Now that I think of it I remember Marcello Matocq reports he had the sameproblem even with his inflated prophylactics and it scared him just as muchtill he figured it out.Michael----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
I wager that it's about 8.4 lbs. Unless of course the water is frozen, inwhich case it could be much, much more. :)Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.netWebmaster, OV-10 Bronco Associationhttp://www.ov-10bronco.net/> I can hardly believe the variety of answers posted on this net for the> answer to a simple little question,> " how much weight attached to the handle will a sealed empty gallon milkjug> support until the entire jug is submerged in salt water"? I've hadanswers> such as " the aircraft is burning", "jaws nibbling at my butt", "dogfighting> with Raual's Air Force", "quick engine release" but still no one has> answered my question.>> Nathan>________________________________________________________________________________
I wager that it's about 8.4 lbs. Unless of course the water is frozen, inwhich case it could be much, much more. :)Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.netWebmaster, OV-10 Bronco Associationhttp://www.ov-10bronco.net/> I can hardly believe the variety of answers posted on this net for the> answer to a simple little question,> " how much weight attached to the handle will a sealed empty gallon milkjug> support until the entire jug is submerged in salt water"? I've hadanswers> such as " the aircraft is burning", "jaws nibbling at my butt", "dogfighting> with Raual's Air Force", "quick engine release" but still no one has> answered my question.>> Nathan>________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: floating in the Gulf of Mexico
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
The story behind the upside-down Ultra-Piet in (on) the water can be foundhere:http://www.questiongravity.com/piet/index.htmNote that the site also has a page with good info regarding paintingaircraft with latex house paint (go down to the bottom of the page for thelink).Bill C. _____
The story behind the upside-down Ultra-Piet in (on) the water can be foundhere:http://www.questiongravity.com/piet/index.htmNote that the site also has a page with good info regarding paintingaircraft with latex house paint (go down to the bottom of the page for thelink).Bill C. _____