Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
To:Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservationYou know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 and registerthe airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under construction(or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, you do not haveto renew your reservation periodically or worry about losing your number. Also,you cannot have the FAA give your final inspection and issue an airworthinessunless the airplane has been registered and has a permanent registration onboard, NOT a pink copy of a pending registration. Found that one out the hardway! Gene ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
To:> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a pending registration. Found that one out the hard way! Gene ----- Original Message -----
To:> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a pending registration. Found that one out the hard way! Gene ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number reservationTim,I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I could have had 1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what I got. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:16:50 -0400
Subject: Pietenpol-List: N number reservationTim,I also reserved my N number on Thursday. I picked 929DH. I wish I could have had 1929DH but that is too long, but I am satisfied with what I got. Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:16:50 -0400
Pietenpol-List: Re: N number reservation
Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
Dan,I'm sure you know this, but if there are others that don't, remember if you useNX at the front of your number when you paint it on the airplane it takes theplace of painting EXPERIMENTAL on the fuselage near the cockpit. Just a nicelittle bonus of building an older design.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Dan,I'm sure you know this, but if there are others that don't, remember if you useNX at the front of your number when you paint it on the airplane it takes theplace of painting EXPERIMENTAL on the fuselage near the cockpit. Just a nicelittle bonus of building an older design.Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!Gene ----- Original Message -----
You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!Gene ----- Original Message -----
Original Posted By: "Gene Rambo"
I remember reading this once before but couldn't seem to locate the instructionson the submission. Not to over think the process, do you need to provide a serialnumber and if so what is the required format for that? Assuming that wecreate our own SN JohnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----
I remember reading this once before but couldn't seem to locate the instructionson the submission. Not to over think the process, do you need to provide a serialnumber and if so what is the required format for that? Assuming that wecreate our own SN JohnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: "=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBSZWNpbmU=?="
Bob:Plenty of Piets and GN1s (and Zenith 601s) flying around today with Corvairengines. Many using the unmodified engine as Bernard originally did and morerecently many following William Wynnes recipe. Bernard's original conversionlikely only made about 65 to 70 hp at the useable rpm for a prop. Now if youfollow the William Wynne (www.flycorvair.com) conversion where you replacethe original cam with the OT-10 profile cam from Clarks Corvair leave thebig blower fan off and follow all the other recommended steps to convert theengine (including nitriding the crank for safety) you can get 90 to 100useable hp from it. And that is a whole lot more than the original Fordengine. We have several on this list currently flying with the Corvair.Michael in Maine----- Original Message ----- >> I've received my Piet plans and manual and have read through them. Itseems that the Corvair is an acceptable alternative.>> The GN-1 plans however say that a Corvair engine doesn't have enoughthrust.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Bob:Plenty of Piets and GN1s (and Zenith 601s) flying around today with Corvairengines. Many using the unmodified engine as Bernard originally did and morerecently many following William Wynnes recipe. Bernard's original conversionlikely only made about 65 to 70 hp at the useable rpm for a prop. Now if youfollow the William Wynne (www.flycorvair.com) conversion where you replacethe original cam with the OT-10 profile cam from Clarks Corvair leave thebig blower fan off and follow all the other recommended steps to convert theengine (including nitriding the crank for safety) you can get 90 to 100useable hp from it. And that is a whole lot more than the original Fordengine. We have several on this list currently flying with the Corvair.Michael in Maine----- Original Message ----- >> I've received my Piet plans and manual and have read through them. Itseems that the Corvair is an acceptable alternative.>> The GN-1 plans however say that a Corvair engine doesn't have enoughthrust.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
> Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By: John Recine
I just called mine "Gene Rambo Pietenpol Aircamper" with serial number 1.Gene ----- Original Message -----
I just called mine "Gene Rambo Pietenpol Aircamper" with serial number 1.Gene ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
even if the powder coat can take the heat, you should make a small shield of stainless steel and clamp it to the mount tube between the exhaust and the mount.Gene ----- Original Message -----
even if the powder coat can take the heat, you should make a small shield of stainless steel and clamp it to the mount tube between the exhaust and the mount.Gene ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Powder coat heat question
Original Posted By: "walt evans"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number reservation
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number reservation
Original Posted By: TOM STINEMETZE
The option is not off of the table. All that this passage means is that the FAA does not include the X with the issued number, a practice they stopped in the 1940's. Display in accordance with Part 45.22 means that you CAN put an X, or C, or R, after the N, as appropriate, and in the case of an X, omit the "experimental" painted on the side.Gene ----- Original Message -----
The option is not off of the table. All that this passage means is that the FAA does not include the X with the issued number, a practice they stopped in the 1940's. Display in accordance with Part 45.22 means that you CAN put an X, or C, or R, after the N, as appropriate, and in the case of an X, omit the "experimental" painted on the side.Gene ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number reservation
Original Posted By: hvandervoo(at)aol.com
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: N number reservation
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
The way I understand it is that you get an N number from the FAA but you can add the X after the N when you apply your number to the plane. My N number is N20795 but on the plane it is NX20795 and the X replaces the word "EXPERIMENTAL"My reserved number for the Piet that I'm building is N 88XN but on the plane it will be NX88XN which reads the same frontwards, backwards, and upside down.Roman Bukolt NX20795On Mar 31, 2008, at 8:21 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:> Don:>> Using the NX would have been my first choice also. However the FAA > seems to have taken that option off the table. If you go to the FAA > N Number reservations website (http://www.faa.gov/licenses%5Fcertifica ... Fnnumbers/ > ) you will find the following explanation:> The FAA no longer issues numbers beginning with NC, NX, NR, or NL. > On some older aircraft, these numbers may be displayed in accordance > with FAR Part 45.22.>> The site only allows you to begin with a number which is why I ended > my number with X. (Besides which "X-Ray" just sounds cool.) > "Experimental 328 X-Ray inbound for low pass over the spaceport . . > er, airport.">> Tom Stinemetze>>> ____ | ____> 8/> / >>> >>> EmchAir(at)aol.com 3/29/2008 8:23 AM >>>> >you know this, but if there are others that don't, remember if you > use NX at the front of your number when you paint it on the airplane > it takes the place of painting >EXPERIMENTAL on the fuselage near > the cockpit. Just a nice little bonus of building an older design.>> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:16:11 -0400
The way I understand it is that you get an N number from the FAA but you can add the X after the N when you apply your number to the plane. My N number is N20795 but on the plane it is NX20795 and the X replaces the word "EXPERIMENTAL"My reserved number for the Piet that I'm building is N 88XN but on the plane it will be NX88XN which reads the same frontwards, backwards, and upside down.Roman Bukolt NX20795On Mar 31, 2008, at 8:21 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:> Don:>> Using the NX would have been my first choice also. However the FAA > seems to have taken that option off the table. If you go to the FAA > N Number reservations website (http://www.faa.gov/licenses%5Fcertifica ... Fnnumbers/ > ) you will find the following explanation:> The FAA no longer issues numbers beginning with NC, NX, NR, or NL. > On some older aircraft, these numbers may be displayed in accordance > with FAR Part 45.22.>> The site only allows you to begin with a number which is why I ended > my number with X. (Besides which "X-Ray" just sounds cool.) > "Experimental 328 X-Ray inbound for low pass over the spaceport . . > er, airport.">> Tom Stinemetze>>> ____ | ____> 8/> / >>> >>> EmchAir(at)aol.com 3/29/2008 8:23 AM >>>> >you know this, but if there are others that don't, remember if you > use NX at the front of your number when you paint it on the airplane > it takes the place of painting >EXPERIMENTAL on the fuselage near > the cockpit. Just a nice little bonus of building an older design.>> ________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:16:11 -0400
> Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation
Original Posted By:> HelsperSew(at)aol.com
> To:> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation>>> You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 > and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under > construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, > you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about > losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final > inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been > registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a > pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!>> Gene> ----- Original Message -----
> To:> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: N number reservation>>> You know, you can not only reserve a number, but you can send in your $5 > and register the airplane. Mine has been registered for years while under > construction (or not), and I have the permanent card in hand. That way, > you do not have to renew your reservation periodically or worry about > losing your number. Also, you cannot have the FAA give your final > inspection and issue an airworthiness unless the airplane has been > registered and has a permanent registration on board, NOT a pink copy of a > pending registration. Found that one out the hard way!>> Gene> ----- Original Message -----