Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
To:pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comSubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaSo then your increase in power has to more than= offset the increase in weightassociated with the power change. Hmmmm. Maybe= a hopped up A-65? So what canbe done to make the A-65 have more power? Carb jetting, more compression,timing, tuned exhaust? How much does increasing compression affect hand proppingdifficulty? Just sorta thinking out loud gu= ys. BTW, if anyone is near CamdenSC there's a guy advertising two Continental A-65's in the Carolina Traderfor $500.00. One is disassembled, the other is= together. Boyce----------------Create a Home T= heater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home <http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... ______Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:54:56 -0600
Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: Jim Ash
RE: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Increase the power to weight ratio. That means you must increase power ordecrease weight. Power gives you climb performance. Drag reduction givesyou speed.Ron BellMechanicsville, VA-----Original Message-----
Increase the power to weight ratio. That means you must increase power ordecrease weight. Power gives you climb performance. Drag reduction givesyou speed.Ron BellMechanicsville, VA-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaSo then your increase in power has to more than offset the increase in weight associated with the power change. Hmmmm. Maybe a hopped up A-65? So whatcan be done to make the A-65 have more power? Carb jetting, more compression,timing, tuned exhaust? How much does increasing compression affect hand propping difficulty? Just sorta thinking out loud guys. BTW, if anyone is nearCamden SC there's a guy advertising two Continental A-65's in the Carolina Traderfor $500.00. One is disassembled, the other is together. Boyce**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:49:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaSo then your increase in power has to more than offset the increase in weight associated with the power change. Hmmmm. Maybe a hopped up A-65? So whatcan be done to make the A-65 have more power? Carb jetting, more compression,timing, tuned exhaust? How much does increasing compression affect hand propping difficulty? Just sorta thinking out loud guys. BTW, if anyone is nearCamden SC there's a guy advertising two Continental A-65's in the Carolina Traderfor $500.00. One is disassembled, the other is together. Boyce**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 09:49:18 -0400
RE: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: "Robert Butsch"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaHere ya go, don't have a name. Link is to a picture.... 803 438 9799_The Carolina Trader - Pay When You Sell - Advertise Free_ (http://www.carolinatrader.com/default1.htm) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaHere ya go, don't have a name. Link is to a picture.... 803 438 9799_The Carolina Trader - Pay When You Sell - Advertise Free_ (http://www.carolinatrader.com/default1.htm) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
Hello fellas:My name is Bob Butsch and I'm in Indianapolis. Just started working on my Air Camper after having had the plans for many (too many) years. I have lofted the Harry Riblett airfoil a couple of you have been talking about. It is the Riblett GA30U-612. You won't find it on the internet. I tried about every site I could think of. Perhaps you will have more luck. I bought a packet of info from Bill Rewey which had the ordinates for the airfoil. I also purchased Harry's book on his GA airfoils and the GA30U-612 is NOT in it.Bill Rewey changed the aft upper ordinates a bit because the trailing edge was very sharp. I left it alone since I will be using commercial aluminum trailing edge anyhow.I have been in contact with Lowell Frank and he says he likes it very much.You can contact Bill Rewey at 3339 Mound View Road Verona, WI 53593.He does not have an email address and I don't have a phone number for him. I'm in the process of making my rib jigs and have designed a simple steaming chamber I hope to finish and test today. I also just received Mike Cuy's video recently and highly recommend it to any new builder.I also recently reserved my N number. It is NX45BB. It was the last two digit number available with a suffix of BB. I also went through all the "X" business and finally just called the FAA to get the skinny. The info you have been reading is quite correct. At the time of receiving your airworthiness certificate, the FAA rep will O.K. the use of "X" in the number.I must say that I have been reading all the posts for quite some time now and have learned much. Every time I think I have something to contribute, someone else always seems to come back with what I was going to say before I get a chance. That's O.K. I won't have to type as much.Later.Bob Butsch________________________________________________________________________________
Hello fellas:My name is Bob Butsch and I'm in Indianapolis. Just started working on my Air Camper after having had the plans for many (too many) years. I have lofted the Harry Riblett airfoil a couple of you have been talking about. It is the Riblett GA30U-612. You won't find it on the internet. I tried about every site I could think of. Perhaps you will have more luck. I bought a packet of info from Bill Rewey which had the ordinates for the airfoil. I also purchased Harry's book on his GA airfoils and the GA30U-612 is NOT in it.Bill Rewey changed the aft upper ordinates a bit because the trailing edge was very sharp. I left it alone since I will be using commercial aluminum trailing edge anyhow.I have been in contact with Lowell Frank and he says he likes it very much.You can contact Bill Rewey at 3339 Mound View Road Verona, WI 53593.He does not have an email address and I don't have a phone number for him. I'm in the process of making my rib jigs and have designed a simple steaming chamber I hope to finish and test today. I also just received Mike Cuy's video recently and highly recommend it to any new builder.I also recently reserved my N number. It is NX45BB. It was the last two digit number available with a suffix of BB. I also went through all the "X" business and finally just called the FAA to get the skinny. The info you have been reading is quite correct. At the time of receiving your airworthiness certificate, the FAA rep will O.K. the use of "X" in the number.I must say that I have been reading all the posts for quite some time now and have learned much. Every time I think I have something to contribute, someone else always seems to come back with what I was going to say before I get a chance. That's O.K. I won't have to type as much.Later.Bob Butsch________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaOK, the link to the picture didn't work...probably because it is password protected. You have to subscribe to read the ads....**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:20:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaOK, the link to the picture didn't work...probably because it is password protected. You have to subscribe to read the ads....**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:20:55 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: Owen Davies
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
Hey Boyce, do you happen to have the number on those A65s?Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile-----Original Message-----
Hey Boyce, do you happen to have the number on those A65s?Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: Ron Bell
MessageSurplus power gives you climb rate. If all of your power is used to overcome drag, you get no climb. Reduce the drag, without increasing power, and you will have more available climb rate. On a 1100# gross Piet, each horsepower not used to overcome drag will give you 1/2 foot per second (30 fpm) of climb. (one Hp = 550 ft-lbf/sec, or 33,000 ft-lbf/min)Mike Hardaway ----- Original Message -----
MessageSurplus power gives you climb rate. If all of your power is used to overcome drag, you get no climb. Reduce the drag, without increasing power, and you will have more available climb rate. On a 1100# gross Piet, each horsepower not used to overcome drag will give you 1/2 foot per second (30 fpm) of climb. (one Hp = 550 ft-lbf/sec, or 33,000 ft-lbf/min)Mike Hardaway ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
i have 108hp o-235 lyco but Aeronca wing, sorry no comparison with Piete's undercut wing. N-1033B springs off the ground at all loads. Realize Bernard didn't have the benefit of the NACA research done in the late 30's and 40's., think he'd be proud to have tried todays modern engines and flat bottomed wings. No harm in getting the best from this fine flying machine.Gordon ----- Original Message -----
i have 108hp o-235 lyco but Aeronca wing, sorry no comparison with Piete's undercut wing. N-1033B springs off the ground at all loads. Realize Bernard didn't have the benefit of the NACA research done in the late 30's and 40's., think he'd be proud to have tried todays modern engines and flat bottomed wings. No harm in getting the best from this fine flying machine.Gordon ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in Indiana
Original Posted By: HelsperSew(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaYou can fuel inject a B ford for 100 HP. Lowell frank has one on his piet now.In a message dated 4/1/2008 8:29:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com writes: So then your increase in power has to more than offset the increase in weight associated with the power change. Hmmmm. Maybe a hopped up A-65? So what can be done to make the A-65 have more power? Carb jetting, more compression, timing, tuned exhaust? How much does increasing compression affecthand propping difficulty? Just sorta thinking out loud guys. BTW, if anyone is nearCamden SC there's a guy advertising two Continental A-65's in the Carolina Trader for $500.00. One is disassembled, the other is together. Boyce____________________________________ Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. _Watch the video on AOL Home_ (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001) .(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dodging church steeples in IndianaYou can fuel inject a B ford for 100 HP. Lowell frank has one on his piet now.In a message dated 4/1/2008 8:29:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com writes: So then your increase in power has to more than offset the increase in weight associated with the power change. Hmmmm. Maybe a hopped up A-65? So what can be done to make the A-65 have more power? Carb jetting, more compression, timing, tuned exhaust? How much does increasing compression affecthand propping difficulty? Just sorta thinking out loud guys. BTW, if anyone is nearCamden SC there's a guy advertising two Continental A-65's in the Carolina Trader for $500.00. One is disassembled, the other is together. Boyce____________________________________ Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. _Watch the video on AOL Home_ (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001) .(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvemen ... 0000000001)________________________________________________________________________________