Original Posted By: "Jack T. Textor"
Well, God is good!After I filed a BIG claim with fedex, I waited two weeks and called for anstatus update to be told that their records show the package as beingrecovered back on teh 26th and delivered to Buchannans. Called Buchannansand yep, they've been there a week!Wish both companies had communicated a bit quicker, but I'm just glad theywere found, and thanks for all your emails.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintDate: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:34:14 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked Paint
RE: Pietenpol-List: my hubs were lost, but now they are found!
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]"
Re: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 Weight & Balance
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
John,The the numbers, typos and errors on your original plans are the same as my CAD plans. The final limits are almost the same, however it is a real head scratcher as to how they were derived. Assuming my GN-1 is built to specifications (I weigh 195), would you like go out and do stalls with me?Thanks,TomEMPTYleft -- 326 x 7.5 = 2445right -- 323 x 7.5 = 2422tail -- 30 x 169 = 5070a/c weight = 679moment = 9937empty weight c. g. = 14.635FWDa/c -- 679 x 14.635 = 9937oil -- 8 x -23 = -184pilot -- 170 x 53 = 9010fuel -- 72 x -1.5 = -108a/c weight = 929moment = 18655fwd c.g. = 20.08 (33.5%)AFTa/c -- 679 x 14.635 = 9937oil -- 8 x -23 = -184pilot -- 170 x 53 = 9010passenger -- 170 x 24 = 4080fuel -- 72 x -1.5 = -108a/c weight = 1099moment = 22735aft c.g. = 20.7 (34.5%)On Jul 3, 2008, at 6:48 AM, John Franklin wrote:> Sorry for the late post on this subject but just didn't see it > earlier...I'm fortunate to have both the original and the later CAD > versions of the GN-1 plans, and I've attached a copy of the page of > the original plans that shows weight & balance info, specifically > for N4705G. Hope it helps.>> Regards,> John F.> Richmond, TX> GN-1 / Corvair 164cid>> ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
John,The the numbers, typos and errors on your original plans are the same as my CAD plans. The final limits are almost the same, however it is a real head scratcher as to how they were derived. Assuming my GN-1 is built to specifications (I weigh 195), would you like go out and do stalls with me?Thanks,TomEMPTYleft -- 326 x 7.5 = 2445right -- 323 x 7.5 = 2422tail -- 30 x 169 = 5070a/c weight = 679moment = 9937empty weight c. g. = 14.635FWDa/c -- 679 x 14.635 = 9937oil -- 8 x -23 = -184pilot -- 170 x 53 = 9010fuel -- 72 x -1.5 = -108a/c weight = 929moment = 18655fwd c.g. = 20.08 (33.5%)AFTa/c -- 679 x 14.635 = 9937oil -- 8 x -23 = -184pilot -- 170 x 53 = 9010passenger -- 170 x 24 = 4080fuel -- 72 x -1.5 = -108a/c weight = 1099moment = 22735aft c.g. = 20.7 (34.5%)On Jul 3, 2008, at 6:48 AM, John Franklin wrote:> Sorry for the late post on this subject but just didn't see it > earlier...I'm fortunate to have both the original and the later CAD > versions of the GN-1 plans, and I've attached a copy of the page of > the original plans that shows weight & balance info, specifically > for N4705G. Hope it helps.>> Regards,> John F.> Richmond, TX> GN-1 / Corvair 164cid>> ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked Paint
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintIn a message dated 7/3/2008 8:37:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jtextor(at)thepalmergroup.com writes:"....A question for those that have baked their spray painted parts in an oven. Ours is new and I was wondering if the odor ruins the stove or just lingers awhile. Was planning to use appliance paint then bake at 250 for a halfhour." Dear Jack, That depends entirely on if you are married or not. If so, do you wish to remain that way?...ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintIn a message dated 7/3/2008 8:37:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jtextor(at)thepalmergroup.com writes:"....A question for those that have baked their spray painted parts in an oven. Ours is new and I was wondering if the odor ruins the stove or just lingers awhile. Was planning to use appliance paint then bake at 250 for a halfhour." Dear Jack, That depends entirely on if you are married or not. If so, do you wish to remain that way?...ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked Paint
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXC0)[ASRC]"
Jack,There is an option that I recently read about, regarding baking some partsfor a Corvair rebuild.The technique involves taking advantage of a day or so when one's wife isaway for the day.Basically, you use the oven for your "non-food" items, and when you arefinished, you run the oven through a self-clean cycle. Whatever fumes theremight have been get burned off (or at least masked by that oven cleaningsmell), but the oven is clean, which might win you some brownie points(depending on how out of character your actions would be). I don't thinkthere could possibly be any residual smell from the paint.On the other hand, are you talking about the spray cans of appliancetouch-up paint? I think that stuff is usually air-dry, and I'm not sure thatbaking it will give any benefit. Generally speaking, air-dry paints aresupposed to be dried at normal room temperature (roughly), and bakingenamels (which are more durable) must be baked to cure properly. Then thereis powdercoating, which is a tough finish that can only cure by baking(basically the heat melts the powder onto the metal, forming a mechanicalbond rather than the chemical bond with most paints). One other option for atough paint finish is epoxy, which does not need to be baked.Here's a link to the website, by a former Piet lister, Robert Haines:http://www.hainesengineering.com/rhaine ... ir.htmBill C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintDate: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:28:22 -0500
Jack,There is an option that I recently read about, regarding baking some partsfor a Corvair rebuild.The technique involves taking advantage of a day or so when one's wife isaway for the day.Basically, you use the oven for your "non-food" items, and when you arefinished, you run the oven through a self-clean cycle. Whatever fumes theremight have been get burned off (or at least masked by that oven cleaningsmell), but the oven is clean, which might win you some brownie points(depending on how out of character your actions would be). I don't thinkthere could possibly be any residual smell from the paint.On the other hand, are you talking about the spray cans of appliancetouch-up paint? I think that stuff is usually air-dry, and I'm not sure thatbaking it will give any benefit. Generally speaking, air-dry paints aresupposed to be dried at normal room temperature (roughly), and bakingenamels (which are more durable) must be baked to cure properly. Then thereis powdercoating, which is a tough finish that can only cure by baking(basically the heat melts the powder onto the metal, forming a mechanicalbond rather than the chemical bond with most paints). One other option for atough paint finish is epoxy, which does not need to be baked.Here's a link to the website, by a former Piet lister, Robert Haines:http://www.hainesengineering.com/rhaine ... ir.htmBill C.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintDate: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:28:22 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Re: Fedex Issues
Original Posted By: "PatrickW"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintOne quick thing about chemicals and the oven (besides the obvious).If you have a pet bird, don't do this. Birds are light, in order to be light they have very little body fluids.. very little blood, small efficient organs. They used them in mines because they succumb very quickly to toxins.Most bird owners do not cook with teflon because of this. No telling what is going to outgas from the paint even at 250 degF. We have to take "Kitty" out of the house for the day when we run the self-cleaning cycle on the oven because of the oven's non-stick coating and +500degF temps during this cycle.Randi with "Kitty".......Chrissi**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fedex Issues
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Oven Baked PaintOne quick thing about chemicals and the oven (besides the obvious).If you have a pet bird, don't do this. Birds are light, in order to be light they have very little body fluids.. very little blood, small efficient organs. They used them in mines because they succumb very quickly to toxins.Most bird owners do not cook with teflon because of this. No telling what is going to outgas from the paint even at 250 degF. We have to take "Kitty" out of the house for the day when we run the self-cleaning cycle on the oven because of the oven's non-stick coating and +500degF temps during this cycle.Randi with "Kitty".......Chrissi**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fedex Issues
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
I worry about this sort of thing.Awaiting several thousand dollars worth of long lead-time engine parts. No ideawhen the parts ship. Maybe today. Maybe 6 months from now. Maybe 6 monthsago... :-(The subdivision where I live has a lot of similarly named streets. "BlackhawkRoad", "Blackhawk Street", "Blackhawk Way", etc. I frequently get mail intendedfor somebody else.Came home one time and somebodies dog was tied up in my yard. The address on it'stag was for somebody else's house, but the number was the same as my house(the only difference being "street" versus "avenue").Patrick--------Patrick601XL/CorvairN63PZ (reserved)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
I worry about this sort of thing.Awaiting several thousand dollars worth of long lead-time engine parts. No ideawhen the parts ship. Maybe today. Maybe 6 months from now. Maybe 6 monthsago... :-(The subdivision where I live has a lot of similarly named streets. "BlackhawkRoad", "Blackhawk Street", "Blackhawk Way", etc. I frequently get mail intendedfor somebody else.Came home one time and somebodies dog was tied up in my yard. The address on it'stag was for somebody else's house, but the number was the same as my house(the only difference being "street" versus "avenue").Patrick--------Patrick601XL/CorvairN63PZ (reserved)Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:06:50 -0700 (PDT)