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Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Original Posted By: "John Recine"
Ken: For some reason, I'm unable to post a message to the Piet list, and Iwonder if you'd be so kind as to post it for me while I try to figure outwhat I'm doing wrong, or where the glitch is. The message Ive been tryingto post follows: I made the dumb mistake of leaving my car unlocked with mybriefcase on the front floorboard. I wasnt gone five minutes, but thats allit took. It was a really old, beat up briefcase, and for years Id carried itthere, thinking no one would want it. One catch was broken, one corner brokenso that you could see inside. I just used it to carry stuff between hangar andhome. Unfortunately, this time I had most of my set of GN-1 plans. Theyre nolonger available from Grega, so Im in a real fix, and I need help. Ivefinished the tail feathers the fuselage is on wheels, but Ive only justgotten started on the wings. Ive got the ribs on the spars of the left wing.Ive made all the metal parts, but without the plans I dont know theplacement dimensions on the spars. Does anyone have set of wing that I couldbuy, rent, or borrow? I can probably figure out the missing fuselage info, butId sure appreciate some help with the wings. Dick Carden.=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.
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Ken: For some reason, I'm unable to post a message to the Piet list, and Iwonder if you'd be so kind as to post it for me while I try to figure outwhat I'm doing wrong, or where the glitch is. The message Ie been tryingto post follows: I made the dumb mistake of leaving my car unlocked with mybriefcase on the front floorboard. I wasn gone five minutes, but that allit took. It was a really old, beat up briefcase, and for years I carried itthere, thinking no one would want it. One catch was broken, one corner brokenso that you could see inside. I just used it to carry stuff between hangar andhome. Unfortunately, this time I had most of my set of GN-1 plans. Theye nolonger available from Grega, so I in a real fix, and I need help. Iefinished the tail feathers the fuselage is on wheels, but Ie only justgotten started on the wings. Ie got the ribs on the spars of the left wing.Ie made all the metal parts, but without the plans I don know theplacement dimensions on the spars. Does anyone have set of wing that I couldbuy, rent, or borrow? I can probably figure out the missing fuselage info, butI sure appreciate some help with the wings. Dick Carden. ________________________________________________________________________________
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Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Dick Carden wrote:
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Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Jack,I'm married and have been using appliance epoxy (the spray cans available atmost hardware stores) and baking it for about 20 minutes in our kitchenoven. There might be some odor but it's pretty minimal. My wife who has asense of smell on par with a bloodhound has never complained. I must admittiming my "culinary experiments" for right about the time she leaves thehouse for a while.There is a big difference in the hardness of the paint between baking andunbaked. Unbaked I can scratch it with my nail, baked I cannot.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
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Douwe,Do you also bake at 250deg.?Happy 4th!Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, working on fuselage(10 ribs down.)-----Original Message-----
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.Not too certain how much help this may be but I have a scan of my Piet drawingsif needed. I don't know how different they are from the GN1 but they may be ofhelp if no one has a set of GN1 prints to offerLet me know off line. Please be advised this is not a general offer nor is it intendedto violate the trust agreement between myself and the Pieten family inthe reproduction and or sale of intelectual property. Just trying to help anotherbuilder in a bindThat's about the best I can doJohnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----
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Original Posted By: "John Recine"
Any idea what to make of thisSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry-----Original Message-----
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Original Posted By: "John Recine"
John,I think you have violated the trust and respect of the whole Pietenpol community by making this offer. You will now have to be shunned from this list for 6 months, you will not be allowed to attend Brodhead for three years (unless you fly your Pietenpol there), and you will have to give up your Verizon Wireless BlackBerry for a year.I'm sorry but we must do this for you own good.Don't worry about Dick, I just sent him an email offering to send him a copy of my GN-1 plans. He already had a set of plans and I will never build from mine so I think its safe. If not, he will just be keeping my backup copy, which you can make legally, in case anything happens to the originals. When I bought my GN-1 plans in 1998, they were only $25. Mr. Grega was defiantly not making any money on the plans.Chris TracySacramento, CaWebsite at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com----- Original Message -----
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Hey Gary,I actually have been baking down around 220 or so and it's been workingfine.D________________________________________________________________________________
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> Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Original Posted By:> "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
> To: > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.>>> Not too certain how much help this may be but I have a scan of my Piet > drawings if needed. I don't know how different they are from the GN1 but > they may be of help if no one has a set of GN1 prints to offer>>> Let me know off line. Please be advised this is not a general offer nor is > it intended to violate the trust agreement between myself and the Pieten > family in the reproduction and or sale of intelectual property. Just > trying to help another builder in a bind>> That's about the best I can do>> John> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry>> -----Original Message-----
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> Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.

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Original Posted By:> Dick Carden
> To: Pietenpol> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw:Dick Carden is needing help.>>> Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP>>> --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Dick Carden wrote:>
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