Original Posted By: "Tom Anderson"
Just how feasible is it for an amateur pilot to build a Pietenpol and then learningto fly in it?I know it's doable, but is it actually a realistic, smart endeavor?--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets in N.C.?
Pietenpol-List: Any Piets in N.C.?
Original Posted By: TGSTONE236(at)aol.com
Does anyone know of any Piets, particularly already flying, in NC?--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Does anyone know of any Piets, particularly already flying, in NC?--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets in N.C.?
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Jim is right... if your instructor has no experience in a Piet, then he or shehad better learn the airplane first. Duh. My instructor had flown 41CC quitea bit before he ever started my checkout, plus he is an old taildragger pilotfrom way back, so he didn't bat an eye about flying it from the front seat orinstructing me in it. Matter of fact, to demonstrate different maneuvers hewould set it up and then ask me what the airspeed indicator was showing. Withoutfail, he could nail it by sound and feel without benefit of the ASI but Iwould at least provide a vane-type airspeed indicator hung out on the strut sothe front-seater has an idea of what the airspeed is.But now we're picking nits. The question was, "how feasible is it?" and I'm ofthe opinion that it is quite feasible.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets in N.C.?Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:50:17 -0400
Jim is right... if your instructor has no experience in a Piet, then he or shehad better learn the airplane first. Duh. My instructor had flown 41CC quitea bit before he ever started my checkout, plus he is an old taildragger pilotfrom way back, so he didn't bat an eye about flying it from the front seat orinstructing me in it. Matter of fact, to demonstrate different maneuvers hewould set it up and then ask me what the airspeed indicator was showing. Withoutfail, he could nail it by sound and feel without benefit of the ASI but Iwould at least provide a vane-type airspeed indicator hung out on the strut sothe front-seater has an idea of what the airspeed is.But now we're picking nits. The question was, "how feasible is it?" and I'm ofthe opinion that it is quite feasible.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Any Piets in N.C.?Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 11:50:17 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Building, then learning to fly it - how feasible is
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
I agree. It would be too hard to communicate for primary training in a Piet. Try a Champ or a 172.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
I agree. It would be too hard to communicate for primary training in a Piet. Try a Champ or a 172.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Building, then learning to fly it - how feasible is
Original Posted By: "David Jones"
Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets in N.C.?
Original Posted By: Marshall Lumsden
Thanks for the response, Jack. BTW, is there any chance I could come by sometime and take a look at your Piet...possiblyeven take a ride in it to see if I'd even like it?--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Thanks for the response, Jack. BTW, is there any chance I could come by sometime and take a look at your Piet...possiblyeven take a ride in it to see if I'd even like it?--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets in N.C.?
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
I had no trouble with my instructor. I was keeping 41CC in his hangar for theduration, so I paid him hangar rent that was appropriate to the services renderedand that was that. And since he and I are both rated in category and class,and I learned in conventional gear years ago when I first started flying (notaildragger endorsement required), his checking me out in the Piet was nothingmore than transition training.I can see now that it could be a bigger issue than just finding an instructor whois willing to instruct you in your own experimental aircraft. However, I wouldbet that some suitable arrangement could be worked out without violatingany FARs. The intent is that experimental aircraft be constructed and operatedfor recreational and educational purposes, not commercial ones, so it wouldhave to be in keeping with the spirit and intent of the $@%&* law.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets in N.C.?Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:20:46 -0400
I had no trouble with my instructor. I was keeping 41CC in his hangar for theduration, so I paid him hangar rent that was appropriate to the services renderedand that was that. And since he and I are both rated in category and class,and I learned in conventional gear years ago when I first started flying (notaildragger endorsement required), his checking me out in the Piet was nothingmore than transition training.I can see now that it could be a bigger issue than just finding an instructor whois willing to instruct you in your own experimental aircraft. However, I wouldbet that some suitable arrangement could be worked out without violatingany FARs. The intent is that experimental aircraft be constructed and operatedfor recreational and educational purposes, not commercial ones, so it wouldhave to be in keeping with the spirit and intent of the $@%&* law.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets in N.C.?Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:20:46 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Building, then learning to fly it - how feasible
Original Posted By:> ----- Original Message ----- "Tom Anderson"
When I was a kid in the mid 1930s on a farm in Michigan, a neighbor bought one of the first, if not the first version of an Air Camper plan. First he built the wing and tail, grafted them onto a wooden frame making a glider out of it and had a friend tow him aloft with a Ford truck. Thus he taught himself the rudiments of flying, then he completed the Air Camper in his barn and just took off in it. He flew it a lot for several years. Every summer evening after the chores were done, he was up puttering around overhead. The Piet self- destructed in his barn where it was stored during WWII because he was grounded by the government. After the war he bought a Funk and continued to fly until he was in his eighties., He never bothered to get a pilots license. His Piet wasn't much different from the modern ones, but he sure had the desire to learn to fly.On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:22 AM, ALAN LYSCARS wrote:> >> Tom,>> Only you can answer that one with confidence. Many guys who have > come before us, I suspect, have done it. Their assessment of the > personal risk was just that: personal.>> So it is yours.>> Al in NH
When I was a kid in the mid 1930s on a farm in Michigan, a neighbor bought one of the first, if not the first version of an Air Camper plan. First he built the wing and tail, grafted them onto a wooden frame making a glider out of it and had a friend tow him aloft with a Ford truck. Thus he taught himself the rudiments of flying, then he completed the Air Camper in his barn and just took off in it. He flew it a lot for several years. Every summer evening after the chores were done, he was up puttering around overhead. The Piet self- destructed in his barn where it was stored during WWII because he was grounded by the government. After the war he bought a Funk and continued to fly until he was in his eighties., He never bothered to get a pilots license. His Piet wasn't much different from the modern ones, but he sure had the desire to learn to fly.On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:22 AM, ALAN LYSCARS wrote:> >> Tom,>> Only you can answer that one with confidence. Many guys who have > come before us, I suspect, have done it. Their assessment of the > personal risk was just that: personal.>> So it is yours.>> Al in NH
Pietenpol-List: Re: Any Piets in N.C.?
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Jack,I live in Wilson and work in Raleigh.--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:05:38 -0400
Jack,I live in Wilson and work in Raleigh.--------Location: Eastern N.C.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:05:38 -0400