Original Posted By: "TOM STINEMETZE"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How hard is it to get into the front s
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How hard is it to get into the front seat
Original Posted By: "Tom Anderson"
If you have the long fuselage plans, have a good look at the mods I made. Use the long fuse plan, but refer to the short fuse plan for building the bridge decks and turtle deck. If you do that, the front cockpit stays the same but you will gain approx 9 inches in the rear cockpit. I also reclined the rear seat by 1 1/2" for comfort.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
If you have the long fuselage plans, have a good look at the mods I made. Use the long fuse plan, but refer to the short fuse plan for building the bridge decks and turtle deck. If you do that, the front cockpit stays the same but you will gain approx 9 inches in the rear cockpit. I also reclined the rear seat by 1 1/2" for comfort.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: How hard is it to get into the front seat
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
RE: Pietenpol-List: ribs and ailerons
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Ben,When I read your reply, I thought that maybe the words I wrote were notclear, and could be taken the wrong way, but I see that a few other listershave confirmed that what I wrote was not out of line (Thanks Gene and Jackfor the support).My comments were not intended to "blast" you. Sorry to hear you took themthat way. They were offered in the spirit of helping. You asked for advice,and that is what I gave. Based on your comments, it seemed as though you didnot grasp the size or complexity of the project. As with any advice, it isyours to do with as you please.But, honestly Ben, are you planning to build a Pietenpol with only one pageof the plans, which you find hard to follow? If you are, I suggest that youreally need to find a local experienced mentor to guide you through thebuilding process on a one-on-one basis. These plans have (almost) all theinformation needed to build an airplane, but there are a lot of areas thatare a challenge to decipher. I read and interpret drawings every day as partof my job, and even I find some parts of these plans a bit difficult, so Ican't imagine how hard it would be for someone who finds plans hard tofollow.If you really intend to build yourself an Air Camper, you will not want todrop off the list, because this list is a wealth of information, with lotsof members who have tons of experience (lots more than me), which most arewilling and eager to share. On the other hand, if you are going to getoffended by someone's reply to your questions, maybe you need to give yourquestions a bit more thought before throwing them out there for a reply.Bill C.-----Original Message-----
Ben,When I read your reply, I thought that maybe the words I wrote were notclear, and could be taken the wrong way, but I see that a few other listershave confirmed that what I wrote was not out of line (Thanks Gene and Jackfor the support).My comments were not intended to "blast" you. Sorry to hear you took themthat way. They were offered in the spirit of helping. You asked for advice,and that is what I gave. Based on your comments, it seemed as though you didnot grasp the size or complexity of the project. As with any advice, it isyours to do with as you please.But, honestly Ben, are you planning to build a Pietenpol with only one pageof the plans, which you find hard to follow? If you are, I suggest that youreally need to find a local experienced mentor to guide you through thebuilding process on a one-on-one basis. These plans have (almost) all theinformation needed to build an airplane, but there are a lot of areas thatare a challenge to decipher. I read and interpret drawings every day as partof my job, and even I find some parts of these plans a bit difficult, so Ican't imagine how hard it would be for someone who finds plans hard tofollow.If you really intend to build yourself an Air Camper, you will not want todrop off the list, because this list is a wealth of information, with lotsof members who have tons of experience (lots more than me), which most arewilling and eager to share. On the other hand, if you are going to getoffended by someone's reply to your questions, maybe you need to give yourquestions a bit more thought before throwing them out there for a reply.Bill C.-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: ribs and ailerons
Original Posted By: "Ben Ramler"
BenWe all like to put our mark on our planes and I'm certainly one who has done that. But you have to realize that anything you do to this plane will have a major effect on the flight characterisics, including the most minor changes. If you make changes without knowing what those effects might be, you may be headed for a plane that doesnt perform well or is just dangerous. If you make changes, draw on the experience of others. The first one is the question of ailereons. A number of others have encouraged you to build the wing with ailereons attached, that is the only way to get a true surface.----- Original Message -----
BenWe all like to put our mark on our planes and I'm certainly one who has done that. But you have to realize that anything you do to this plane will have a major effect on the flight characterisics, including the most minor changes. If you make changes without knowing what those effects might be, you may be headed for a plane that doesnt perform well or is just dangerous. If you make changes, draw on the experience of others. The first one is the question of ailereons. A number of others have encouraged you to build the wing with ailereons attached, that is the only way to get a true surface.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: How hard is it to get into the front seat
Original Posted By: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ MIL USA FORSCOM"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: How hard is it to get into the front seat
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Make a note to put more of an angle on the seat back.... It is a little toovertical. Too late for mine, but I have read about alot of people doing it! Wish Iknew before I built mine!Cheers!Dave -----Original Message-----
Make a note to put more of an angle on the seat back.... It is a little toovertical. Too late for mine, but I have read about alot of people doing it! Wish Iknew before I built mine!Cheers!Dave -----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How hard is it to get into the front seat
Original Posted By: Dave Abramson
Thanks! I'll note it now. ----- Original Message -----
Thanks! I'll note it now. ----- Original Message -----