Original Posted By: Michael Perez
To heck with the cap strips....LOOK AT THAT CLEAN WORKSHOP!!!!I envy the guys that have the time to keep a clean workshop. I usually work till I drop and say I'll clean it up the next time I work on something. I finally clean up when all the phillips screwdrivers (11) -are scattered around the shop and I can't find one.Keep building every dayBarryBig Piet Builder----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "Dave Abramson"
Trust me Chrissi, that wasn't staged.-- I think Mike's Piet will be the nearest thing to have been constructed in a cleanroom environment but heck, hat's off to him.-- My basement or garage didn't look that clean but I tried to keep it tidymost of the time.-- Either way they are built they are fun to fly when done ! -So simple room temperature tap water and a PVC pipe is all it takes to soften the ribs.-- Now there's a great idea forkeeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaborate stove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike.--- -Mike C. ---________________________________________________________________________________
Trust me Chrissi, that wasn't staged.-- I think Mike's Piet will be the nearest thing to have been constructed in a cleanroom environment but heck, hat's off to him.-- My basement or garage didn't look that clean but I tried to keep it tidymost of the time.-- Either way they are built they are fun to fly when done ! -So simple room temperature tap water and a PVC pipe is all it takes to soften the ribs.-- Now there's a great idea forkeeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaborate stove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike.--- -Mike C. ---________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Trust me Chrissi, that wasn't staged. I think Mike's Piet willbe the nearest thing to have been constructed in a clean room environment but heck, hat's off to him. My basement orgarage didn't look that clean but I tried to keep it tidy most of the time. Either way they are built they are fun to flywhen done ! So simple room temperature tap water and a PVC pipe is all ittakes to soften the ribs. Now there's a great idea for keeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaboratestove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike. Mike C.D=================================D=================================D=================================D=================================________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
Trust me Chrissi, that wasn't staged. I think Mike's Piet willbe the nearest thing to have been constructed in a clean room environment but heck, hat's off to him. My basement orgarage didn't look that clean but I tried to keep it tidy most of the time. Either way they are built they are fun to flywhen done ! So simple room temperature tap water and a PVC pipe is all ittakes to soften the ribs. Now there's a great idea for keeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaboratestove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike. Mike C.D=================================D=================================D=================================D=================================________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Trust me Chrissi, that wasn't staged.-- I think Mike's Piet will be the nearest thing to have been constructed in a cleanroom environment but heck, hat's off to him.-- My basement or garage didn't look that clean but I tried to keep it tidymost of the time.-- Either way they are built they are fun to fly when done ! -So simple room temperature tap water and a PVC pipe is all it takes to soften the ribs.-- Now there's a great idea forkeeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaborate stove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike.--- -Mike C. ---3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dhref='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... D=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Trust me Chrissi, that wasn't staged.-- I think Mike's Piet will be the nearest thing to have been constructed in a cleanroom environment but heck, hat's off to him.-- My basement or garage didn't look that clean but I tried to keep it tidymost of the time.-- Either way they are built they are fun to fly when done ! -So simple room temperature tap water and a PVC pipe is all it takes to soften the ribs.-- Now there's a great idea forkeeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaborate stove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike.--- -Mike C. ---3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dhref='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... D=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
I did my Capstrip the same way....- I think HOT water just makes the wood get softer faster.- Cold water just takes a little longer.- I would fill my plastic tube with the HOT water spigot of the drinking fountain here at work.- Soak the cap strip for 10 to 15 mins...... then put it in the jig.- done deal!!!!!--dave------Original Message-----
I did my Capstrip the same way....- I think HOT water just makes the wood get softer faster.- Cold water just takes a little longer.- I would fill my plastic tube with the HOT water spigot of the drinking fountain here at work.- Soak the cap strip for 10 to 15 mins...... then put it in the jig.- done deal!!!!!--dave------Original Message-----
Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
Re: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Pietenpol-List: My method for softening cap strip
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
RE: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I did my Capstrip the same way.... I think HOT water just makes the woodget softer faster. Cold water just takes a little longer. I would fill myplastic tube with the HOT water spigot of the drinking fountain here atwork. Soak the cap strip for 10 to 15 mins...... then put it in the jig.done deal!!!!!dave -----Original Message-----
I did my Capstrip the same way.... I think HOT water just makes the woodget softer faster. Cold water just takes a little longer. I would fill myplastic tube with the HOT water spigot of the drinking fountain here atwork. Soak the cap strip for 10 to 15 mins...... then put it in the jig.done deal!!!!!dave -----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "Lloyd Smith"
Hate to spoil a perfectly good nonsense conversation here, but as Iunderstand it, the theory behind the steam or boiling water is that the hightemperatures help to break down the bonding qualities of the lignin in thewood (the stuff that holds the wood fibers together). This allows the woodfibers to slide past each other, and deform the wood structure. When thewood cools back to room temperature, the lignin "sets" and holds the newshape. Having said that, wet wood does seem to be more pliable than dry wood- but not as pliable as hot wood.Okay, back to the "stiff wood" jokes.Bill C________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:18:54 -0400
Hate to spoil a perfectly good nonsense conversation here, but as Iunderstand it, the theory behind the steam or boiling water is that the hightemperatures help to break down the bonding qualities of the lignin in thewood (the stuff that holds the wood fibers together). This allows the woodfibers to slide past each other, and deform the wood structure. When thewood cools back to room temperature, the lignin "sets" and holds the newshape. Having said that, wet wood does seem to be more pliable than dry wood- but not as pliable as hot wood.Okay, back to the "stiff wood" jokes.Bill C________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:18:54 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bendingIn a message dated 8/22/2008 12:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, eng(at)canadianrogers.com writes:Okay, back to the "stiff wood" jokes.O.... Ooohhh now I get it...ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals ... 0000000047)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bendingIn a message dated 8/22/2008 12:18:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, eng(at)canadianrogers.com writes:Okay, back to the "stiff wood" jokes.O.... Ooohhh now I get it...ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals ... 0000000047)________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: No clamps on ribs?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Well, since we seem to be operating on a policy of full disclosure, I betteradmit that my idea was inspired by Clif Dawson's wooden clamps (thanksClif), so I'll say that my jig was a hybrid of 56% Clif's idea, and 44%mine. And that would make Glenn's jig a hybrid of 39% Clif's, 31% mine and30% Glenn's (or is that 40%/32%/28%?).Now, we just need to know where Clif got his idea...Bill C _____
Well, since we seem to be operating on a policy of full disclosure, I betteradmit that my idea was inspired by Clif Dawson's wooden clamps (thanksClif), so I'll say that my jig was a hybrid of 56% Clif's idea, and 44%mine. And that would make Glenn's jig a hybrid of 39% Clif's, 31% mine and30% Glenn's (or is that 40%/32%/28%?).Now, we just need to know where Clif got his idea...Bill C _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: No clamps on ribs?
Original Posted By: "Ryan Mueller"
Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending
Original Posted By: "Ryan Mueller"
What do you mean "looks like" ??I LIKE my sti-----er, steamer!Some grain, a little yeast, ah, the staff of life. :-)ClifWhen I leave this world I want a drink in one hand, a chocolate inthe other, screaming WOO HOO what a ride!On the other hand going out peacefully in my sleep has merit too,like my grandfather, just not screaming in terror like his passengers! Subject: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending Now there's a great idea for keeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaborate stove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike. Mike C. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8/22/2008 6:32 PM________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:18:25 -0500
What do you mean "looks like" ??I LIKE my sti-----er, steamer!Some grain, a little yeast, ah, the staff of life. :-)ClifWhen I leave this world I want a drink in one hand, a chocolate inthe other, screaming WOO HOO what a ride!On the other hand going out peacefully in my sleep has merit too,like my grandfather, just not screaming in terror like his passengers! Subject: Pietenpol-List: clean workshop, good tip on rib bending Now there's a great idea for keeping it simple and not having to concoct some elaborate stove-pipe steamer rig thing that looks like a still. Good tip Mike. Mike C. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8/22/2008 6:32 PM________________________________________________________________________________Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:18:25 -0500