Pietenpol-List: extra power ?

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:07 pm

Original Posted By: Michael.D.Cuy(at)nasa.gov
#yiv1609965381 .hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv1609965381 {FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;}Mike,-No problem whatsoever one up, but I would love to be able to take my GF up with me and not worry to much about shorter fields.--No problem with 65HP for fun factor, just safety.-JonathanSubject: Pietenpol-List: extra power ?Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:46:22 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:11 am

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
http://www.imagedv.com/aircamper/log/im ... mRaymond,I built the exactly to the plans. The geometry was such that full up elevator travel was prevented by the walking beam pushrod (301-16) contacting the aft end of the torque tube (301-06). I solved the problem by lowering the elevator bell crank assembly about an inch.Regards,Tom BernieOn Aug 26, 2008, at 10:00 AM, skellytown flyer wrote:> >>> Well I have made a belcrank for my GN-1 according to plans dimension- > but seems to be a little short in travel.I will need to get the > length of the cables set better but right now I have what appears to > be about 30 degrees of up and only about 10 down if that.I am > wondering how much difference is needed to safely fly if the plane > is in the G range.I expect more up than down but not sure how > much.Raymond>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 0654#200654>>________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: extra power ?Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:46:22 -0500

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:46 am

Original Posted By: Michael.D.Cuy(at)nasa.gov

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:46 am

Original Posted By: Michael.D.Cuy(at)nasa.gov

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:02 pm

Original Posted By: "walt"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:10 pm

Original Posted By: "walt"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:27 pm

Original Posted By: "Ryan Mueller"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:04 pm

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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:39 pm

Original Posted By: "Lloyd Smith"
It's been said many times before, but "Simplicate and add Lightness". I've yetto come across a Piet builder/pilot that said "well I didn't add this thing orthat thing, but i wish I would have"... come across quite a few that said "I wish I wouldn't have added this or that, could've saved some weight". Lightnessis directly proportional to good handling and good climb. If one buildslightly with an A-65 and dare I say, uses the Pietenpol airfoil, they will buildand airplane that performs really well. I hate to keep saying it but I weighabout 180lbs and regularly fly my dad around at 225lbs. with full fuel andhave never felt nervous at all. My strip is about 2500' long. It has power linesat one end and trees about 400' off the other end. Part of not feeling nervousthough is to always try to make good judgement calls. The Piet like anysmall airplane is sensitive to temperature. If it's in the mid 90's I justwon't fly with someone like my dad. If it's a nice comfortable day though, lookout! I got the chance to fly an Aeronca K yesterday. I flew it solo and witha passenger. It is a 1938 model. I really enjoyed it, lots of fun. ButI just gotta say... Mr. Pietenpol designed his plane several years before the'K' and he sure did have his ducks in a row. Aeronca should have went to himfor advice! Uh-oh, any Aeronca K guys on here?!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 2213#202213________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:26:29 -0400

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:36 pm

Original Posted By: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: extra power ?Speaking of less weight...I know this is contrary to our ideas of aircraft/flying, but I was entertaining the idea (over a few beers) of closinga compartment of wing, and filling it with gas to make a "lighter" airframe. Notlighter than air mind you, but make the plane believe it were a 100 pounds lighter...OK maybe I'm still a bit intoxicated!Boyce**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals ... 0000000047)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:13:34 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:34 pm

Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:59 am

Original Posted By: charles loomis

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:59 am

Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:20 am

Original Posted By: "charles loomis"
I don't know about that Wasp but there was a Piet hereflying about for years and years with a Shaky Jake on it.Clif----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:53 am

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If y'all are dead-set on hanging stuff off your airplanes, I guess you could lookat the wind gen that Great Plains markets. Here's the link:http://www.greatplainsas.com/gennipod1.pdfFour amps, two hundred fifty bucks.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 9:00:33 -0400

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:00 am

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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm

Original Posted By:> Jonathan Ragle
> Jonathan,> If you build to the plans, an A-65 will take you anywhere> you want to go.> Did you see my "youtube" where I took me (210#)> and a friend (190#) up with a 65hp?> Not a problem.> Build light, and you will be good to go.> My runway is 2550ft.> > PS What's a GF?> > > walt evans> NX140DL> > > ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm

Original Posted By:> Michael.D.Cuy(at)nasa.gov

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm

Original Posted By: Jonathan Ragle
Walt=2CI'm just going off of what the fellow that is selling me the bird says=2C that it is not a very good airplane 2 up. Send me a link to the vid! I'm about 200lbs but I'm not normaly quite this "healthy". Just that I quit smoking several months ago and the munchies have been killing me. And a GF is something that grows to roughly 145lbs after you have lived with it for to long.Jonathan Pietenpol-List: extra power ?To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comJonathan=2CIf you build to the plans=2C an A-65 will take you anywhere you want to go.Did you see my "youtube" where I took me (210#) and a friend (190#) up with a 65hp?Not a problem.Build light=2C and you will be good to go.My runway is 2550ft.PS What's a GF?walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm

Original Posted By: Jonathan Ragle
Walt=2CMaybe my friend that is selling me the piet is just a bit spoiled for RV6s and 757s. Also here in TX we deal with a lot of heat and density altitude. Not sure how many mid day chapter meetings I could make it to on hot days. Dissappointing=2C but I guess OK since most of the old farts around here don't care about flying anymore just talking about flying and complaining about local politics. I do like visiting a lot of remote fields though (or at least I did years ago when I was current).And a GF similar to a tumor=2C often one will increase in size when you have lived with it for to long. In my case=2C my once small GF is now an inoperable 145Lbs.

So where is that youtube video?My dad and I (180+200) are going to load up and firewall this thing on a long runway and see what happens. On a hot day an 80HP Sonex or a 100HP Cessna makes for a sluggish ride. We are gonna see. I didn't mean to cause this many people to jump but I guess if they are all saying that it's a legitimate 2 place bird then it's a good thing. Jonathan Pietenpol-List: extra power ?To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.comJonathan=2CIf you build to the plans=2C an A-65 will take you anywhere you want to go.Did you see my "youtube" where I took me (210#) and a friend (190#) up with a 65hp?Not a problem.Build light=2C and you will be good to go.My runway is 2550ft.PS What's a GF?walt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm

Original Posted By:>> Jonathan Ragle
>> Jonathan,>> If you build to the plans, an A-65 will take you anywhere>> you want to go.>> Did you see my "youtube" where I took me (210#)>> and a friend (190#) up with a 65hp?>> Not a problem.>> Build light, and you will be good to go.>> My runway is 2550ft.>>>> PS What's a GF?>>>>>> walt evans>> NX140DL>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:33 pm

Original Posted By:>> Michael.D.Cuy(at)nasa.gov

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