Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: vortex generatorsI found the best price on VG's was at www.landshorter.com I don't know if they're still around, nor have i tried them yet, but I was impressed by the site and their guarantee. I plan to play around with them when the time comes.Douwe________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: vortex generators
Pietenpol-List: vortex generators
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: vortex generatorsYou're probably not going to find a better price for engineered and tested vortex generators than those made and sold by EAA'er Joa Harrison and his lovely wife... see info athttp://www.landshorter.com/. These are injection molded, clear plastic VGs. Joa is a bush country type of guy, lives in Idaho, works for Quest Aircraft, the company that makes the Kodiak STOL aircraft.I have two sets of Joa's VGs for eventual installation and testing on 41CC, but I want to fly it without them for a while to get baseline performance data. Then one set will go on the top of the wing and another on the underside of the horizontal stabilizer, per Joa's instructions.For you guys who like to "roll your own", there is a very detailed description on how to make and install your own (made from aluminum), at http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly18.html ... you can page down through his excellent description of how to make your own.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: vortex generatorsYou're probably not going to find a better price for engineered and tested vortex generators than those made and sold by EAA'er Joa Harrison and his lovely wife... see info athttp://www.landshorter.com/. These are injection molded, clear plastic VGs. Joa is a bush country type of guy, lives in Idaho, works for Quest Aircraft, the company that makes the Kodiak STOL aircraft.I have two sets of Joa's VGs for eventual installation and testing on 41CC, but I want to fly it without them for a while to get baseline performance data. Then one set will go on the top of the wing and another on the underside of the horizontal stabilizer, per Joa's instructions.For you guys who like to "roll your own", there is a very detailed description on how to make and install your own (made from aluminum), at http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly18.html ... you can page down through his excellent description of how to make your own.Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: vortex generators
Original Posted By: Roy Brooks
My VGs are Landshorter's premolded polycarbonate ones, available from my friends Joa Harrison and his wife, at http://www.landshorter.comIf you want to home-brew your own, Jack Hart's website has good details on fabricationand installationas he made them for his Kolb Firefly. The photo and narrative sequence begins here: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/ ... .htmlOscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
My VGs are Landshorter's premolded polycarbonate ones, available from my friends Joa Harrison and his wife, at http://www.landshorter.comIf you want to home-brew your own, Jack Hart's website has good details on fabricationand installationas he made them for his Kolb Firefly. The photo and narrative sequence begins here: http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/ ... .htmlOscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: vortex generators
Original Posted By: "walt"
I have not yet installed the VGs on my airplane, Steve. I'm going to paint themthis weekend,lay out the pattern on my wing, and maybe get them installed but won't have flighttest info foranother couple of weeks.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:59:22 -0500
I have not yet installed the VGs on my airplane, Steve. I'm going to paint themthis weekend,lay out the pattern on my wing, and maybe get them installed but won't have flighttest info foranother couple of weeks.Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:59:22 -0500
Pietenpol-List: No nails in spars
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: No nails in spars
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
RE: Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Way to go Michael! I did my ribs as my first project. They were moved all overthe house and garage for 4 years while I did other parts of the Piet. I thoughtback then that they were always in the way and I could never find a suitableplace to store them. Boy was I wrong!!! Once they become a wing is when the space really gets gobbledup.Rick SchreiberIn wintry NW Indiana with 14 inches of snow on the way.----- Original Message -----
Way to go Michael! I did my ribs as my first project. They were moved all overthe house and garage for 4 years while I did other parts of the Piet. I thoughtback then that they were always in the way and I could never find a suitableplace to store them. Boy was I wrong!!! Once they become a wing is when the space really gets gobbledup.Rick SchreiberIn wintry NW Indiana with 14 inches of snow on the way.----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...Way to go Michael! I did my ribs as my first project. They were moved all overthe house and garage for 4 years while I did other parts of the Piet. I thoughtback then that they were always in the way and I could never find a suitableplace to store them. Boy was I wrong!!! Once they become a wing is when the space really gets gobbledup.Rick SchreiberIn wintry NW Indiana with 14 inches of snow on the way.----- Original Message -----
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...Way to go Michael! I did my ribs as my first project. They were moved all overthe house and garage for 4 years while I did other parts of the Piet. I thoughtback then that they were always in the way and I could never find a suitableplace to store them. Boy was I wrong!!! Once they become a wing is when the space really gets gobbledup.Rick SchreiberIn wintry NW Indiana with 14 inches of snow on the way.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
Re: Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...
Original Posted By:
I went to get the snow blower ready and found a couple of missing springs. I'mnot tackling that drive with a shovel.......gee retired, no grass to cut and snowedin, Guess I'll have to spend even more time working on the Piet. Now that I have decided how I'll do the tailwheel, I've started fabricating that.The wood for the straight axle main gear is cut and planed, so that will benext. Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
I went to get the snow blower ready and found a couple of missing springs. I'mnot tackling that drive with a shovel.......gee retired, no grass to cut and snowedin, Guess I'll have to spend even more time working on the Piet. Now that I have decided how I'll do the tailwheel, I've started fabricating that.The wood for the straight axle main gear is cut and planed, so that will benext. Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: In case you did not notice...
Original Posted By: Matt Dralle
Re: Pietenpol-List: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett
Original Posted By: helspersew(at)aol.com
Paul,No Link. Can you repost, please? Thanks.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblettairfoil
Paul,No Link. Can you repost, please? Thanks.--------Semper Fi,Terry HandAthens, GARead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblettairfoil
Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Original Posted By: "taildrags"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: OT well done water bomber videohttp://player.vimeo.com/video/48642618________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Subject: Pietenpol-List: OT well done water bomber videohttp://player.vimeo.com/video/48642618________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Pietenpol-List: Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblett
Original Posted By: "kevinpurtee"
I have a set of VGs from Landshorter (http://www.landshorter.com/index.html)The price is very good, the VGs come with detailed instructions, and the partsare very well made (molded).I have not installed or flown them on Scout yet, but now that I think about it,with the wings sitting on tables at the moment, it may be just the right timeto do it! I've already painted them yellow to match the wing and tail surfaces,so all I have to do is lay out the spacing and fasten them in place. Hmmm...--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblettairfo
I have a set of VGs from Landshorter (http://www.landshorter.com/index.html)The price is very good, the VGs come with detailed instructions, and the partsare very well made (molded).I have not installed or flown them on Scout yet, but now that I think about it,with the wings sitting on tables at the moment, it may be just the right timeto do it! I've already painted them yellow to match the wing and tail surfaces,so all I have to do is lay out the spacing and fasten them in place. Hmmm...--------Oscar ZunigaMedford, ORAir Camper NX41CC "Scout"A75 powerRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Comparison test between Pietenpol airfoil and Riblettairfo
Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Original Posted By: "AircamperN11MS"
Well said, Dan.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Well said, Dan.--------Kevin "Axel" PurteeNX899KPAustin/San Marcos, TXRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
Original Posted By: "jarheadpilot82"
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > >> >> The quote that I've seen is "Simplicate and add lightness", and isattributed to William Stout, designer of the Ford Trimotor.>> >>> From Wikipedia (so it must be true
):>> >> Stout is remembered for his Farberistic engineering credo, "Simplicateand add more lightness." This would later become best known as the adopted >> maxim of Colin Chapman of Lotus Cars. It actually originated with >> Stout's designer Gordon Hooton.>> >> In the spirit of the quote, "simplicate" makes more sense than >> "simplificate", if for no reason other than it has one syllable less.>> >> Bill C.>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 107#393107> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: chicken and ribs> To: pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com> > >> >> The quote that I've seen is "Simplicate and add lightness", and isattributed to William Stout, designer of the Ford Trimotor.>> >>> From Wikipedia (so it must be true
):>> >> Stout is remembered for his Farberistic engineering credo, "Simplicateand add more lightness." This would later become best known as the adopted >> maxim of Colin Chapman of Lotus Cars. It actually originated with >> Stout's designer Gordon Hooton.>> >> In the spirit of the quote, "simplicate" makes more sense than >> "simplificate", if for no reason other than it has one syllable less.>> >> Bill C.>> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here:>> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... 107#393107> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: vortex generators