Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
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Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
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Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Michael,This is Ray Krause, a newbie to this site. I am just starting on my Pietenpol and would appreciate seeing your pictures, also. My e-mail is RayKrause(at)frontiernet.net. I recently completed a Sonex Waiex plane. Beautiful and fast. The Pietenpol will replace my J-3 for slow and low flying. I just need to be building something!Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 65 hrs. ----- Original Message -----
Michael,This is Ray Krause, a newbie to this site. I am just starting on my Pietenpol and would appreciate seeing your pictures, also. My e-mail is RayKrause(at)frontiernet.net. I recently completed a Sonex Waiex plane. Beautiful and fast. The Pietenpol will replace my J-3 for slow and low flying. I just need to be building something!Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 65 hrs. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Thanks, Michael!Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 65 hrs. ----- Original Message -----
Thanks, Michael!Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 65 hrs. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Ray Krause
Welcome to the group, Ray. You will find it helpful and sometimes entertaining. What area are you from? We have members all around the world.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Welcome to the group, Ray. You will find it helpful and sometimes entertaining. What area are you from? We have members all around the world.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Have you run string through the ribs where the drag wireswill go? Just to make sure they will clear all the uprightparts of the ribs. If you go into the archives there's many messages over the years indicating that the ribs should bespaced to clear the drag wires and usually a few ribs willbe moved a bit from even spacing. It would be a shameto have to cut out and replace rib braces to clear the wires.Apparently if you build exactly to the planes it won't be an issue but a few have moved ribs a half inch one way or theother to have clearance.It was suggested by Graham Hansen that it would be agood idea to set all ribs in place without glueing theninstall the cross bracing and drag/antidrag wires. If thereappears to be a clearance issue then you can move ribsto clear. This could be more of an issue if your designingyour own method of drag bracing as some have done.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Have you run string through the ribs where the drag wireswill go? Just to make sure they will clear all the uprightparts of the ribs. If you go into the archives there's many messages over the years indicating that the ribs should bespaced to clear the drag wires and usually a few ribs willbe moved a bit from even spacing. It would be a shameto have to cut out and replace rib braces to clear the wires.Apparently if you build exactly to the planes it won't be an issue but a few have moved ribs a half inch one way or theother to have clearance.It was suggested by Graham Hansen that it would be agood idea to set all ribs in place without glueing theninstall the cross bracing and drag/antidrag wires. If thereappears to be a clearance issue then you can move ribsto clear. This could be more of an issue if your designingyour own method of drag bracing as some have done.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Dick N.
Dick,I am in Colusa, California (O08), just 60 miles north of Sacramento on I5. Where is the closest Peitenpol builder?Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 65 hrs. ----- Original Message -----
Dick,I am in Colusa, California (O08), just 60 miles north of Sacramento on I5. Where is the closest Peitenpol builder?Thanks,Ray KrauseN51YX, Waiex, TD, Jab 3300 (1197), AeroCarb, Sensinich 54X62 wood prop, Dynon D-180, Garmin SL-30, 327, 296, 65 hrs. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring up
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Re: Pietenpol-List: Squaring
Original Posted By: Michael Perez