Original Posted By: Oscar Zuniga
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionThe plans show basically a single drawing for the wing, and for some reason I cant seem to get my head wrapped around one of my concerns. At the risk of sounding really off the wall is there any difference I need to take into consideration between the left and right side wings. Anything I need to reverse,flip over or do differently or is it just as it appear 2 identical wings used on left and right?For some reason I just can seem to see it and before I build and end up with 2 identical right wings is there something that I am not seeing, something different I have to do or am I making more out of this than just building 2 ofexactly the same wing assemblies?Can some one reassure me either way, identical or different? Are there any other things that I need to look for or do to avoid making some really large or stupid mistake.ThanksJohn**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62)________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
I went ahead and put up some gascolator photos on a little website=2Chere: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/gascolator.htmlOscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio=2C TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionDate: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:27:07 -0500
I went ahead and put up some gascolator photos on a little website=2Chere: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/gascolator.htmlOscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio=2C TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionDate: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:27:07 -0500
Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'Just toying with ideas on patches and thought I'd bounce the idea of a bumper sticker off the list...What do you think of this kind of 'international' look?[cid:image001.png(at)01C974FE.2FC6C240]Steve E________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'Just toying with ideas on patches and thought I'd bounce the idea of a bumper sticker off the list...What do you think of this kind of 'international' look?[cid:image001.png(at)01C974FE.2FC6C240]Steve E________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
John Don't take the idea of building 2 right wings too lightly, it's been done before, not by me. Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
John Don't take the idea of building 2 right wings too lightly, it's been done before, not by me. Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: Phillips, Jack
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionJohn Don't take the idea of building 2 right wings too lightly, it's been donebefore, not by me. Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionJohn Don't take the idea of building 2 right wings too lightly, it's been donebefore, not by me. Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Larry Williams and group,I'm not saying that the saying "Simplificate and add lightness." did not originate with General Billy MItchell, but I do have an excellent book titled The Speed Seekers by Thomas G. Foxworth, ISBN 0-385-06050-5, and it attributes a similar quotation to William B. Stout who fathered the Ford Tri-Motor transport.Beneath a photograph of Stout on page 83, it says his lifelong doctrine was "simplicate and add lightness." I hope you don't think of this as "nit picking" because I only wish to reveal what I have found in Foxworth's well-researched book about the development of racing airplanes and aero engines, primarily in the 1920's (when our favorite airplane was designed---although the Pietenpol isn't by any stretch of the imagination a racing airplane!). If anyone can find this book in the local library, I hereby endorse it as a really good read.Cheers,Graham Hansen(My Pietenpol CF-AUN is snowed-in here at Camrose, Alberta, Canada. Maybe it's time to install the skis.)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Larry Williams and group,I'm not saying that the saying "Simplificate and add lightness." did not originate with General Billy MItchell, but I do have an excellent book titled The Speed Seekers by Thomas G. Foxworth, ISBN 0-385-06050-5, and it attributes a similar quotation to William B. Stout who fathered the Ford Tri-Motor transport.Beneath a photograph of Stout on page 83, it says his lifelong doctrine was "simplicate and add lightness." I hope you don't think of this as "nit picking" because I only wish to reveal what I have found in Foxworth's well-researched book about the development of racing airplanes and aero engines, primarily in the 1920's (when our favorite airplane was designed---although the Pietenpol isn't by any stretch of the imagination a racing airplane!). If anyone can find this book in the local library, I hereby endorse it as a really good read.Cheers,Graham Hansen(My Pietenpol CF-AUN is snowed-in here at Camrose, Alberta, Canada. Maybe it's time to install the skis.)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
John,You have two spars, 2 left and 2 right. Both spars have a butt rib thatstarts closest to the fuselage. Label each one #1L and #1R. As you moveoutboard on each wing, label the ribs #2L, #3L, #4L, etc: #2R, #3R, #4R,etc. When you are done you will have two wings, mirror images of each otherand identical in all other ways. Hope this helps=85.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!)(12 ribs down=85) _____
John,You have two spars, 2 left and 2 right. Both spars have a butt rib thatstarts closest to the fuselage. Label each one #1L and #1R. As you moveoutboard on each wing, label the ribs #2L, #3L, #4L, etc: #2R, #3R, #4R,etc. When you are done you will have two wings, mirror images of each otherand identical in all other ways. Hope this helps=85.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, working on fuselage (endless metal parts!)(12 ribs down=85) _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'Just toying with ideas on patches and thought I'd bounce the idea of a bumper sticker off the list...What do you think of this kind of 'international' look?[cid:image001.png(at)01C974FE.2FC6C240]Steve E________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'Just toying with ideas on patches and thought I'd bounce the idea of a bumper sticker off the list...What do you think of this kind of 'international' look?[cid:image001.png(at)01C974FE.2FC6C240]Steve E________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet 'Bumper Stickers'
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Since this is really difficult for you, why not just have thewing plan page copied in reverse.Is there someone near you or, if you belong, an EAAmember that can check your work.Since we all really like pictures, send them along asyou progress, particularely when you've come to anirreversable juncture in the build, like just before glueing ribs for instance.Most of the bits and pieces are all identical. All theribs are the same, all four spars are the same. theonly difference there is that one wing will have thepointy( outboard ) end of the spars on the left and on the other wing those ends will be on the right.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Since this is really difficult for you, why not just have thewing plan page copied in reverse.Is there someone near you or, if you belong, an EAAmember that can check your work.Since we all really like pictures, send them along asyou progress, particularely when you've come to anirreversable juncture in the build, like just before glueing ribs for instance.Most of the bits and pieces are all identical. All theribs are the same, all four spars are the same. theonly difference there is that one wing will have thepointy( outboard ) end of the spars on the left and on the other wing those ends will be on the right.Clif ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: "Douwe Blumberg"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionDo you have room to lay everything out for each wing? That way you could lay out the order of the parts, and where they go before gluing or jigging anything. When you start assembling the wings, go from the layout to the jig onepiece at a time. Sometimes, I have to visualize things rather than just thinking them out...Boyce________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionDo you have room to lay everything out for each wing? That way you could lay out the order of the parts, and where they go before gluing or jigging anything. When you start assembling the wings, go from the layout to the jig onepiece at a time. Sometimes, I have to visualize things rather than just thinking them out...Boyce________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing construction
Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionMike,That's perfect, and the answer I was actually looking for. I started my left wing with the square cut end in my holding jig and faced the leading edge while laying out the ribs which gave me a left wing. If I place my wing tip ends into my holding jig and I populate the spar with the from the trailing edge it should yield a right wing. Due to tight spatial constraints its near impossible to center the fuse and lay out both wings so the visual picture represents the actual layout all of which makes it near impossible to see thedifference. Which was the essence of my question. Just to make certain I got it all in the proper perspective I would appreciate any pics or illustrations you are willing to send.Thanks you and all that responded I appreciate the help.John In a message dated 1/13/2009 8:16:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net writes:Since the plan shows a full left wing, if you build two wings as shown, you will end up with two left wings. Build the first wing as shown. This will teach you how to build the wing and along the way you will learn how to lay things out, drill holes, make the cuts, mark the rib locations, etc. Now thatyou have built one wing, the second is much easier. As mentioned, this right wing needs to be like a mirror image. So, if your first wing's tip was on theleft as shown, you need to lay out the right wing with the tip on the right. Keep the leading edge forward away from you and the trailing edge close to you. As far as differences in the wings themselves, there isn't any. They are the same; one for the left one for the right. One note: on the center section end of the spars, you cut a small angle on the bottom of the spar where the attaching strap for the cabane strut attaches. Use this angle as a reference! This angle must ALWAYS be on the bottom!I ALMOST started to drill my holes for the flying struts with this angle on topof the spar. (Spar was upside down) With this angle on the bottom, you will have two spars with the tapered end for the wing tip on the right end of the spar and two with the wing tip taper on the left end. If I was at home, I would send you pictures as I am building my first wing now as well. ========(mip://05442b40/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List") ========(mip://05442b40/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") ========(mip://05442b40/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") ========**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:09:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing constructionMike,That's perfect, and the answer I was actually looking for. I started my left wing with the square cut end in my holding jig and faced the leading edge while laying out the ribs which gave me a left wing. If I place my wing tip ends into my holding jig and I populate the spar with the from the trailing edge it should yield a right wing. Due to tight spatial constraints its near impossible to center the fuse and lay out both wings so the visual picture represents the actual layout all of which makes it near impossible to see thedifference. Which was the essence of my question. Just to make certain I got it all in the proper perspective I would appreciate any pics or illustrations you are willing to send.Thanks you and all that responded I appreciate the help.John In a message dated 1/13/2009 8:16:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, speedbrake(at)sbcglobal.net writes:Since the plan shows a full left wing, if you build two wings as shown, you will end up with two left wings. Build the first wing as shown. This will teach you how to build the wing and along the way you will learn how to lay things out, drill holes, make the cuts, mark the rib locations, etc. Now thatyou have built one wing, the second is much easier. As mentioned, this right wing needs to be like a mirror image. So, if your first wing's tip was on theleft as shown, you need to lay out the right wing with the tip on the right. Keep the leading edge forward away from you and the trailing edge close to you. As far as differences in the wings themselves, there isn't any. They are the same; one for the left one for the right. One note: on the center section end of the spars, you cut a small angle on the bottom of the spar where the attaching strap for the cabane strut attaches. Use this angle as a reference! This angle must ALWAYS be on the bottom!I ALMOST started to drill my holes for the flying struts with this angle on topof the spar. (Spar was upside down) With this angle on the bottom, you will have two spars with the tapered end for the wing tip on the right end of the spar and two with the wing tip taper on the left end. If I was at home, I would send you pictures as I am building my first wing now as well. ========(mip://05442b40/3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List") ========(mip://05442b40/3D"http://forums.matronics.com") ========(mip://05442b40/3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution") ========**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62)________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:09:31 -0800 (PST)