Original Posted By: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Thanks for posting the link Mike.Oshkosh is only 4 1/2 months away and here is how things are shaping up for this years 80th anniversary:Brodhead is being scheduled and promoted as Thursday through Saturday, July 23 - 25.On Sunday, July 26th we depart Brodhead and fly to an airport close to Oshkosh to make arrival arrangements with OSH tower. Juneau, WI (UNU) is looking like a strong possibility because it is close and it is a straight flight up highway 26 to Oshkosh.Small groups of 4 - 5 planes, with a radio equipped flight leader, will depart UNU for Oshkosh via the Fisk arrival route.Tailskid equipped Pietenpols will use the ultralight arrival procedure.The 2009 Oshkosh NOTAM will be available in April or May. A link will be posted when it becomes available.Some questions for everyone:1. Who is planning to fly their Piet to Oshkosh?2. Who is radio equipped and willing to act as a group leader on the flight to OSH?3. Who is planning to drive from Brodhead to OSH and would be willing to haul camping gear and baggage?If you know someone with a Pietenpol who isn't on this list please encourage them to consider attending.Don Emch - can you contact Frank Pavliga to see if he is willing to attend?John Hoffman or Roman Bukolt - you guys live in the area, what can you tell us about the Juneau airport? Most importantly, is the grass adjacent to the runways suitable for landing during the summer months? This should be enough to get the conversations started.If anyone wants to contact me directly I can be reached at 612 721-6235 evenings or gcardinal(at)comcast.netIdeas and suggestions are encouraged. Greg Cardinal ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By: Ryan Mueller
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Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By:> Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people stop there and are treated well, however since there is some strategery involved here I would suggest Hartford (HXF) as an alternative. It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial from UNU. Runway 18/36 is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is just shy of 3000 with useable grass on the North side of the runway. There is 24 hour credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car gas) and it is home of the Cub Club so there are lots of taildraggers (18 or so Cubs based there) and there would be less congestion than UNU. Either choice would probably be fine but I have a bias to Hartford as that is where I am based. I can do some followup with Steve Krog if anyone is interested. Steve E and Mikee, you used Hartford as the gathering point in 1999 I think?-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Mar 6, 2009, at 9:34 PM, gcardinal wrote:> Thanks for posting the link Mike.>> Oshkosh is only 4 1/2 months away and here is how things are shaping > up for this years 80th anniversary:>> Brodhead is being scheduled and promoted as Thursday through > Saturday, July 23 - 25.>> On Sunday, July 26th we depart Brodhead and fly to an airport close > to Oshkosh to make arrival arrangements with OSH tower. Juneau, WI > (UNU) is looking like a strong possibility because it is close and > it is a straight flight up highway 26 to Oshkosh.>> Small groups of 4 - 5 planes, with a radio equipped flight leader, > will depart UNU for Oshkosh via the Fisk arrival route.> Tailskid equipped Pietenpols will use the ultralight arrival > procedure.>> The 2009 Oshkosh NOTAM will be available in April or May. A link > will be posted when it becomes available.>> Some questions for everyone:>> 1. Who is planning to fly their Piet to Oshkosh?> 2. Who is radio equipped and willing to act as a group leader on the > flight to OSH?> 3. Who is planning to drive from Brodhead to OSH and would be > willing to haul camping gear and baggage?>> If you know someone with a Pietenpol who isn't on this list please > encourage them to consider attending.> Don Emch - can you contact Frank Pavliga to see if he is willing to > attend?>> John Hoffman or Roman Bukolt - you guys live in the area, what can > you tell us about the Juneau airport? Most importantly, is the grass > adjacent to the runways suitable for landing during the summer months?>> This should be enough to get the conversations started.> If anyone wants to contact me directly I can be reached at 612 > 721-6235 evenings or gcardinal(at)comcast.net>> Ideas and suggestions are encouraged.>> Greg Cardinal>> ----- Original Message -----
Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people stop there and are treated well, however since there is some strategery involved here I would suggest Hartford (HXF) as an alternative. It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial from UNU. Runway 18/36 is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is just shy of 3000 with useable grass on the North side of the runway. There is 24 hour credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car gas) and it is home of the Cub Club so there are lots of taildraggers (18 or so Cubs based there) and there would be less congestion than UNU. Either choice would probably be fine but I have a bias to Hartford as that is where I am based. I can do some followup with Steve Krog if anyone is interested. Steve E and Mikee, you used Hartford as the gathering point in 1999 I think?-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Mar 6, 2009, at 9:34 PM, gcardinal wrote:> Thanks for posting the link Mike.>> Oshkosh is only 4 1/2 months away and here is how things are shaping > up for this years 80th anniversary:>> Brodhead is being scheduled and promoted as Thursday through > Saturday, July 23 - 25.>> On Sunday, July 26th we depart Brodhead and fly to an airport close > to Oshkosh to make arrival arrangements with OSH tower. Juneau, WI > (UNU) is looking like a strong possibility because it is close and > it is a straight flight up highway 26 to Oshkosh.>> Small groups of 4 - 5 planes, with a radio equipped flight leader, > will depart UNU for Oshkosh via the Fisk arrival route.> Tailskid equipped Pietenpols will use the ultralight arrival > procedure.>> The 2009 Oshkosh NOTAM will be available in April or May. A link > will be posted when it becomes available.>> Some questions for everyone:>> 1. Who is planning to fly their Piet to Oshkosh?> 2. Who is radio equipped and willing to act as a group leader on the > flight to OSH?> 3. Who is planning to drive from Brodhead to OSH and would be > willing to haul camping gear and baggage?>> If you know someone with a Pietenpol who isn't on this list please > encourage them to consider attending.> Don Emch - can you contact Frank Pavliga to see if he is willing to > attend?>> John Hoffman or Roman Bukolt - you guys live in the area, what can > you tell us about the Juneau airport? Most importantly, is the grass > adjacent to the runways suitable for landing during the summer months?>> This should be enough to get the conversations started.> If anyone wants to contact me directly I can be reached at 612 > 721-6235 evenings or gcardinal(at)comcast.net>> Ideas and suggestions are encouraged.>> Greg Cardinal>> ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By: John Hofmann
I have flown into Oshkosh form both Hartford and Dodge Co. and I think Hartfordwould be the better bet. The Short Wing Piper Club uses Hartford as our stagingarea, before our mass arrival into OSH. Last year I flew my Tripacer to Brodheadand then returned to NW Indiana for a few days before returning to OSH.On my way to OSH I had to divert due to a fatal accident that closed OSH, soI diverted to Dodge Co. Dodge Co. was a nice and friendly airport, but it wasbusy. It is more congested than Hartford. In my opinion, Hartford is a more laidback and accommodating field.Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
I have flown into Oshkosh form both Hartford and Dodge Co. and I think Hartfordwould be the better bet. The Short Wing Piper Club uses Hartford as our stagingarea, before our mass arrival into OSH. Last year I flew my Tripacer to Brodheadand then returned to NW Indiana for a few days before returning to OSH.On my way to OSH I had to divert due to a fatal accident that closed OSH, soI diverted to Dodge Co. Dodge Co. was a nice and friendly airport, but it wasbusy. It is more congested than Hartford. In my opinion, Hartford is a more laidback and accommodating field.Rick Schreiber----- Original Message -----
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Original Posted By: "GR Hewitt"
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Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By: gcardinal
GregI will be going. I have a radio and GPS.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
GregI will be going. I have a radio and GPS.Dick N. ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]"
Hi Jeff,I am pretty sure HXF is not in conflict with the NOTAM.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Mar 7, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote:> >>> My original flight plan for 2GA9 to OSH had HXF as the "regroup and > make final" stop prior to going to OSH. I had not, however, > considered the impact of the OSH NOTAM arrival procedures.>> John, is there a conflict with using HXF in terms of the NOTAM?>> Thanks,>> Jeff>>>> Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people >> stop there and are treated well, however since there is some >> strategery involved here I would suggest Hartford (HXF) as an >> alternative. It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial from UNU. Runway >> 18/36 is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is just >> shy of 3000 with useable grass on the North side of the runway. >> There is 24 hour credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car >> gas) and it is home of the Cub Club so there are lots of >> taildraggers (18 or so Cubs based there) and there would be less >> congestion than UNU. Either choice would probably be fine but I >> have a bias to Hartford as that is where I am based. I can do some >> followup with Steve Krog if anyone is interested. Steve E and >> Mikee, you used Hartford as the gathering point in 1999 I think?>>>> -john->>> -- > --->> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.> Associate Professor of Ophthalmology> Emory University School of Medicine> Editor-in-Chief> Molecular Vision>>________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Jeff,I am pretty sure HXF is not in conflict with the NOTAM.-john-John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Mar 7, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote:> >>> My original flight plan for 2GA9 to OSH had HXF as the "regroup and > make final" stop prior to going to OSH. I had not, however, > considered the impact of the OSH NOTAM arrival procedures.>> John, is there a conflict with using HXF in terms of the NOTAM?>> Thanks,>> Jeff>>>> Juneau gets real busy the Sunday before OSH. I know a lot of people >> stop there and are treated well, however since there is some >> strategery involved here I would suggest Hartford (HXF) as an >> alternative. It is 14.1 nm on the 110 radial from UNU. Runway >> 18/36 is 2000 x 200 grass with good approaches and 11/29 is just >> shy of 3000 with useable grass on the North side of the runway. >> There is 24 hour credit card fuel (100LL and still 93 stinky car >> gas) and it is home of the Cub Club so there are lots of >> taildraggers (18 or so Cubs based there) and there would be less >> congestion than UNU. Either choice would probably be fine but I >> have a bias to Hartford as that is where I am based. I can do some >> followup with Steve Krog if anyone is interested. Steve E and >> Mikee, you used Hartford as the gathering point in 1999 I think?>>>> -john->>> -- > --->> Jeffrey H. Boatright, Ph.D.> Associate Professor of Ophthalmology> Emory University School of Medicine> Editor-in-Chief> Molecular Vision>>________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-in
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-inI've flown to OSH twice and both times it was in mass formation. First time in the Pietenpol, and then last year in the Stinson. I've never flown the Fiske arrival... Strange but true. In '99 we staged at Hartford, and last year we staged the Stinson flyin at Watertown. With the exception of having Frozen Custard within walking distance at Waterford, Hartford would be my choice again for the piet, if I were to fly it again. Even at only 14 or 15 miles away, it is a difficult thing to get an entire cloud of piets together in some sort of order at the landing end of the journey. It is a good idea to go in groups of 4-5 ships, although I'll never forget being in a gaggle of airplanes going the same general direction. I thought I was in a WW1 fighter squadron! In '99 we had one landing mishap that closed the airport. Crosswinds blew wake turbulence from a landing DC3 on the parallel runway and slammed a piet into the ground, causing a gear collapse and prop strike. No injuries, but sorrowful end for one fellow pietenpoller. It could have been avoided if we had more separation smaller groups would have helped.Hartford is a great airport with a grass runway, close to hotels too.Steve E.
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary fly-inI've flown to OSH twice and both times it was in mass formation. First time in the Pietenpol, and then last year in the Stinson. I've never flown the Fiske arrival... Strange but true. In '99 we staged at Hartford, and last year we staged the Stinson flyin at Watertown. With the exception of having Frozen Custard within walking distance at Waterford, Hartford would be my choice again for the piet, if I were to fly it again. Even at only 14 or 15 miles away, it is a difficult thing to get an entire cloud of piets together in some sort of order at the landing end of the journey. It is a good idea to go in groups of 4-5 ships, although I'll never forget being in a gaggle of airplanes going the same general direction. I thought I was in a WW1 fighter squadron! In '99 we had one landing mishap that closed the airport. Crosswinds blew wake turbulence from a landing DC3 on the parallel runway and slammed a piet into the ground, causing a gear collapse and prop strike. No injuries, but sorrowful end for one fellow pietenpoller. It could have been avoided if we had more separation smaller groups would have helped.Hartford is a great airport with a grass runway, close to hotels too.Steve E.