Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:40 am

Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
I met a guy down in TN who proclaimed that he is in the Guiness Book of World Recordsfor making the world's largest sign. He did it the way you describe witha projector and scaffolding on a huge wall....but let's face it, these aren't structural glue joints. I think chalk and paintget along just fine.--------Glenn ThomasN?????http://www.flyingwood.comRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free downloadDate: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:20:49 -0400

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:42 pm

Original Posted By: Bill Church
Bill, I'll go one step further, I think Pietenpol builders and flyers are missing out if they don't use the FlyBaby site. Good info thru out.Gene in wet Tennessee ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:42 pm

Original Posted By: Bill Church
To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Bill, I'll go one step further, I think Pietenpol builders and flyers are missing out if they don't use the FlyBaby site. Good info thru out. Gene in wet Tennessee ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:42 pm

Original Posted By: Bill Church
To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Bill, I'll go one step further, I think Pietenpol builders and flyers are missing out if they don't use the FlyBaby site. Good info thru out. Gene in wet Tennessee ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:42 pm

Original Posted By: Bill Church
To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download Bill, I'll go one step further, I think Pietenpol builders and flyers are missing out if they don't use the FlyBaby site. Good info thru out. Gene in wet Tennessee ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:56 pm

Original Posted By: Kirk Huizenga
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free downloadwonderful resource!________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:57 pm

Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Has anyone ever written a "How To" manual for the Pietenpol Air Camper? AlsoI am looking for a set of Aerial Pietenpol plans if anyone knows how orwhere please contact me off line.Rob Stapleton, PhotojournalistAnchorage, Alaska907-230-9425KL2ANSkype:rob.stapleton.jrIM Windows Live Messenger: foto(at)alaska.netEmail:foto(at)alaska.netwww.alaskafoto.com www.alaskasportpilotcenter.net -----Original Message-----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:24 pm

Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Piets with the Model A engine, what is everyone using to keep values from sticking?920Y was airborne today for one hour after about 4 hours working to unstick a exhaust value. I run 100LL and have been adding Marvel Mistery oil in the fuel, but the question is how much?Sure glad to see spring coming.Chet________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: manuals for free download

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:26 pm

Original Posted By: shad bell
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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:03 am

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Hello group, And thank you all for the advise on protecting our airport, (EspecciallyTim Willis in sunny TX)-.- On a much lighter note I mannaged to get out of work an hour early, because no jets were broke today, and I did some flying.- I took the old latex, chevy, go cart wheeled recon-machine up and around to do some areial-recon work to find the suspected target (power substation).- I am assuming it is the one to the south, bearing 180 deg from my house and range 2 miles.- I tried to find some other routes for the proposed pole line to run, but due to my lack of high alt, high speed sr-71 cammeras I could not take photos.- Oh well time to call in the aztecs, barrons and bonanzas for a bomb run, then finish them off with rv-4, and Cassutt-straffing runs.- Made 3 good landings and did not break anything so all is well and back at base.- Who knows what tommoroww's intel will reveal about the electric co. nazi's.- -Untill tommorow,Capt Shadly Sundowner-P.S. I know we all need power lines but not at the threshhold.________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:49:41 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:27 am

Original Posted By: "ALAN LYSCARS"
Rob asked->Has anyone ever written a "How To" manual for>the Pietenpol Air Camper?Sure. Bernard Pietenpol went through a narrativeon building the Air Camper in the Flying & GliderManuals. In addition to that=2C the Pietenpolfamily offers a construction manual with that samenarrative plus a host of other information such asfrequently asked questions=2C info learned since theearly days of the Piet=2C and useful tips.If you're looking for a "Insert Tab A into Slot B"type of manual though=2C you won't find it. That'sthe beauty of building a Piet. It's like sittingdown to your dining room table and emptying out allthe pieces to a big=2C beautiful jigsaw puzzle ofCherry Grove=2C Minnesota on the table and then justsorting it out bit by bit.I always start a jigsaw puzzle by finding the fourcorner pieces=2C next I find all the edge pieces=2C thenI just go from there=2C working on a new and interestingpart every day until I just can't seem to make anyprogress there=2C then I start on another area of thepuzzle and work on it for a while. Building a Pietis the same way =3Bo) And with this jigsaw puzzle=2Cyou'll find a little bit of Mr. Pietenpol's airplaneand barn in every piece...Oscar ZunigaAir Camper NX41CCSan Antonio=2C TXmailto: taildrags(at)hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net________________________________________________________________________________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:29 am

Original Posted By: shad bell
Shad..What is your airport identifier?Al LyscarsManchester, NH ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:26 pm

Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
John,I live in Camden, Tenn. Camden is half way between Memphis and Nashville. Turn off I 40 at exit 126 and go North on 641 about 15 miles. Randy Bush lives just East of Jackson (about exit 91) and has a very nice corvair powered Pietenpol. Would love to meet you and show you my Piet and I'm sure Randy would too. My # is 731-336-6893 and Randy's is 731-441-9164. Just talked with Randy and he said for you to give him a call and if he is in the area he would love to show you his bird. Looking forward to hearing from youGene ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:48 pm

Original Posted By: Gene & Tammy
Hide the silverware..... ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:02 pm

Original Posted By: Skip Gadd
Fellow Builders:Does anybody know the identifier of Skip's field?Thanks,Al LyscarsGN-1 in-progressAOPA ASN B19 ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:01 am

Original Posted By: Jim Markle
Silverware hidden, beer drank and wife sent out of town.... ----- Original Message -----

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:35 am

Original Posted By: jb.spiegel(at)us.schneider-electric.com
Shad,I'm sure you know this, but time is extremely important here. If they have alreadydone a survey of the underground utilities, they may be about to start construction.It is extremely important to get this changed before they put thepoles in the ground at the runway, once they've spent money there it will bevery hard to get them to undo this.I would contact the FAA as indicated by someone else, and AOPA. You may have topush the FAA, call as many offices as you can, and call the local FSDO. Keeptalking to them until you find someone willing to help, that is probably thekey.Check the Electric Co's website. Try to find contact information for the engineersthey have designing this thing. Somewhere they have engineers deciding ifthis thing will be buried or overhead. Let them know that there are issueswith what they are proposing. Cite other FAA rulings that prevented such towersfrom being built (even if you don't have detailed information). This is keyas if the engineer thinks he is about to screw something up that will cost thecompany money, he may be willing to change their design. Let them know thata lawsuit is intended if they move forward. They are infringing on and reducingthe value of as well as your ability to use your property, OUTSIDE of anyright of way that would be issued. As someone stated before, simply routingthe lines underground for a short length, maybe 150', would prevent this. Theutility could do this, and I would guess the additional cost would be somewherein the $10k to $20k range, maybe less, to bury the lines. http://consolidatedelectric.coop/Corporate Office5255 State Route 95 P.O. Box 111Mount Gilead, OH 43338 Phone: (419) 947-3055Fax: (419) 947-3082District Office 680 Sunbury RoadP.O. Box 630Delaware, OH 43015 Phone: (740) 363-2641Fax: (740) 369-1804As a last resort, if they aren't cooperating, you may see if you can get a groupof pilots or property owners at the airport to come up with money as a partialpayment to bury the lines. I know that isn't right or fair, but as a lastresort, it would beat having your runway ruined. $5k to $10k might be enoughto entice the utility to change their mind.I'm an electrical engineer and deal with utility engineers on a regular basis forcommercial construction projects. If you would like, give me a call and I'llsee if I can give you some better advice.Steve RuseNorman, OK405-209-9010Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airport is in trouble!!

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:36 am

Original Posted By: Michael Perez
Shad,Having read through the replies, you are on the right track, A couple of things I thought of.I don't know how Ohio is, but in the state of Iowa, any utility must have an easement both temporary for construction and permanent for maintenance, if the Owner of the airfield owns the entire strip then they should have to obtain his/her signature for the easement, if that person refuses to sign, then they will have to pursue eminent domain, which is not a quick process. Also contact the County Engineer to find out when the project was approved by the County board of Supervisors. If they are doing preliminary survey work, then they should contact home owners prior to entering their property, unless they have an easment, or a court order, otherwise it's trespassing. Also dont' be affarid to question them when they are on the airfield or your property, Jake________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:39:11 -0700 (PDT)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:18 am

Original Posted By: Al Hays
Hi Dan' The Funk head has the intake valve clearance for a 1-1/2"dia. valve headand a 6.25:1 compression ratio. All in a Ford B block. A good head for 63 HP.and pushing a 76 X 50 Prop. to 2175 RPMPieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:09 am

Original Posted By: bike.mike(at)comcast.net
Shad,You'll find a lot of essential information and ,hopefully, valuable assistance from the Office of Aviation in the Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT). Go to the website - www.dot.state.oh.us and click on the aviation icon. Then under Aviation Links, click on ODOT Office of Aviation. There you will find a link to Airports which and further links to laws and regulations regarding Airspace Protection (Tall Structures). Of particular interest will be whether a permit has been applied for - see Ohio Revised Code 4561.33 Application for permit. You might find help and support through the Ohio Aviation Association ( www.ohioaviation.org ) and should probably join it. To quote from the pop up caption under the Aviation icon on the ODOT Homepage, "As home to the Wright Brothers, Ohio has long been known as the 'Birthplace of Aviation'." With that in mind, I think you are likely to succeed.Al Hays48VA, Gore, VAOn Mar 14, 2009, at 11:19 PM, shad bell wrote:>> To all recieving this email,> My name is Shad Bell, and this email is sent to all aviation > enthusiast I know. I live on a grass airport community in central > Ohio and the power company (Consolidated Electric Co-Op) is trying > to run 70+ ft power lines directly over the top of the runway thresh > hold. After being notified of this problem by the airport (runway) > owner , I believe he said other than right of way by the township > there is no easement yet for the side of my property or the runway > ( I live on a corner lot and the runway comes out to the side > street). This will effectivly shorten our runway about 1/3 from > 3000 to 2000 ft. With no warning I have survey steaks and pins > driven in my yard and back accross the runway. To all of you who > have any experiance with this "Bully the small guy" stuff I am > looking for advise on stoping the power company from destroying this > airport. Eventually someone is going to get killed from hitting a > electric line 70 ft above a runway here, (or nobody will be able to > fly out of here anymore) . Is there any hope of stoping this from > happening. Should I contact EAA, and can they help, AOPA? This > airport has been here for 30+ years and now it looks like some a-- > hole with $$$$$ is going to tell me too bad so sad, and thanks for > paying your electric bill on time every month. Please feel free to > let me know any and all options we can fight this with.>> Sincerly, Shad Bell>>________________________________________________________________________________Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:51:01 +0000 (UTC)

matronics · Post by **matronics** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:54 am

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matronics · Post by **matronics** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:01 pm

Original Posted By: brian.e.jardine@l-3com.com
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