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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadIn a message dated 6/21/2006 9:09:16 AM Central Standard Time, jim_markle(at)mindspring.com writes:According to my map it's about 37 miles.....Which means that if I were 148 miles high, it would be within gliding distance of a Pietenpol. That's considering a 4 to 1 glide ratio.Chuck G.NX770CG________________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadTravel distance to Janesville is about 30 minutes and then another 20 minutes toRockford.How far is it from Rockford to Broadhead? I am gathering some thoughts on how tocombine business with passion and really need to see examples and continue theprebuild research.ThanksJohn -----Original Message-----The Brodhead dates are Fri Jul 21-- Sun Jul 23.I plan to drive up and get there as early as possible on Friday. I will have a car for errands, supplies, beer runs, etc. I will be camping there on Fridaynight, but will likely move to a motel in Rockford on Saturday, for I am meetingan old friend from Chicago who says his 75-yr.-old back doesn't do air matressesany longer. That's my plan for now.Chuck Gantzer told me he was likely going up Thursday to get settled in. Oscar has told me he cannot go this year.Corky, are you thinking of going? I'll have the scotch this time. I look forward to meeting you all.Tim . 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HTML Version:http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenp ... 9.htmlText Version:http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenp ... =====EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive===============================================----------------------------------------------------------Pietenpol-List Digest Archive---Total Messages Posted Mon 06/19/06: 13----------------------------------------------------------Today's Message Index:----------------------1. 04:59 AM - Re: Engine selection (Phillips, Jack)2. 06:07 AM - GN-1 Gap Seals (Mike King)3. 08:02 AM - Re: Engine selection (Bill Church)4. 09:36 AM - Re: Engine selection (Gene & Tammy)5. 09:56 AM - Re: Engine selection (Phillips, Jack)6. 10:52 AM - Re: Engine selection (Gene & Tammy)7. 11:08 AM - Re: Engine selection (Steve Eldredge)8. 11:57 AM - Engine selection (HelsperSew(at)aol.com)9. 01:23 PM - Re: Engine selection (KMHeide)10. 06:58 PM - Re: Engine selection (Dick Navratil)11. 07:07 PM - radial eng chopper (Dick Navratil)12. 07:16 PM - Re: Covering (Peter W Johnson)13. 08:14 PM - Re: Engine selection (Gene & Tammy)________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________As always, Graham posted an outstanding reply. I concur with everything he said.My Pietenpol has an A65, and it is adequate for solo flying. For carryingpassengers on a hot day, unless you have a long runway or VERY clear approachesat your field, it can cause a bit of sphincter-clinch on takeoff. It alsocannot cope with much of a downdraft. I'll never forget flying it across WestVirginia last year on the way to Brodhead. I was at 4,000' and trying to climbover a 4400' ridge, climbing at my best rate of climb and losing 500 fpm ina downdraft.Yesterday I took my EAA Flight Advisor up in mine. He weighs 205 (I weigh 195)and we had a full tank of fuel (90 lbs). Adding all that to my 745 lb emptyweight, and we were at 1235 lbs. - a heavy load indeed. OAT was 91 F, and densityaltitude was about 2500'. Fortunately I had enough sense to not try thisfrom the 2,000' strip with 120' trees at the end where I base the plane. Weflew out of Sanford, NC (TTA) where the runway is 6500' long with unobstructedapproaches for at least mile on either end of the runway. Takeoff was impressive- we were off the ground in about 600'. Climbout was less impressive, butstill acceptable at 150 fpm. He loved the airplane (other than its climb rate).BTW at that weight, stall speed was 42 mph indicated.If I had it to do over again, I would put a C-85 in it. Or fly from longer airstrips.If I had tried yesterday's flight from my home field, we would have impactedthe trees at the end about 70 feet below the treetops. If I were to buildanother one, I might seriously look at adding 4 feet to the wingspan, whichwould add about 25 lbs to the weight, but would add 20 sq. ft to the wing area.One other note on a topic that has been discussed recently - yesterday I sealedthe gaps between my elevators and horizontal stabilizer with duct tape. I founda slight improvement in time to raise the tail on takeoff, and about a 2 mphimprovement in cruise speed. I also found that it changed the trim of theairplane. Before this change I could trim the plane to fly hands off using myspring trim system. Now even with full nose up trim it still tends to nose downslightly, indicating that the tail is providing more lift than before.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 2:36 PMKen Heide,Our elevation here in central Alberta, Canada is about 2500' msl which is quitea bit higher than yours in Fargo, ND.For the first couple of years, my Pietenpol was powered by an A65 Continental.Its performance was adequate when flying solo, but the climb rate was sluggishwith an adult passenger aboard on a hot day. In cruise with a load, one had towork the A65 pretty hard to maintain altitude; there was little power in reserveto deal with downdrafts.Then I obtained a C85 and the difference was dramatic, to say the least. With onlya slight weight increase, power was increased by nearly 31%! The most significantimprovement was in the climb rate, and the cruise speed increased by about7-8 mph. The takeoff run was shortened, but not by much; even with the A65,the a/c had always seemed to perform well within ground effect. Nowadays, Ihave power in reserve to climb over obstacles and cope with downdrafts.When the Pietenpol was designed, people were smaller and lighter. We tend to forgetthat the Pietenpol is a small airplane when compared to Taylorcrafts, Cubsand Aeroncas with the same power. Typically, these airplanes have a wingspanof 35 - 36 feet with a wing area of 175 - 180 square feet versus the Pietenpol's29 foot span and about 145 square feet.Their aspect ratio is around sevencompared to the Pietenpol's 5.8, making them much better gliders than the Pietenpol.When one considers that all these airplanes essentially were designed aroundsmaller people, they do rather well hauling a couple of 200(+) poundersthese days. If we all weighed perhaps 150 to 170 pounds, our little airplaneswould perform much better because that is close to what they were designed tocarry.However, we have to face the fact that people are bigger and heavier these days--andthe airplanes we love are not any larger. About all we can do is keep them(and us) as light as possible and increase the available power (without addingtoo much weight, of course).In my experience, the Continental C85-8 engine is about the optimum engine forthe Pietenpol. It is only slightly heavier than the A65-8 and provides the sameclearance between the magnetos and the firewall. I have a C85-12 in my Pietenpoland it is a bit heavier than the -8 version because of the rear accessorycase, which makes for a tight fit between the magnetos and the firewall. (A longerengine mount would cure this problem, but I don't wish to build new cowlings,etc.)If you keep a Pietenpol simple and light, a strong Continental A65 will work finefor you--provided you don't expect it to do what it was never designed to do.Having the optimum engine/ propeller combination is extremely important. Ihave yet to find the very best propeller for mine--either with the A65 or theC85 engines. If you are lucky, you may find a custom propeller that is close toideal for your airplane, but a fixed pitch propeller is always a compromiseand one usually has to try out a lot of different ones. Off-the-shelf certifiedpropellers will work, but they may not be the best for your setup.As always, it is best to improve efficiency before simply adding power. If I wereto build another Pietenpol, I would work hard to keep it as light as possiblein order to fly well with modest power.Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN_________________________________________________or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error,please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other useof the email by you is prohibited.________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________BlankSay guys, I bought my 1985 GN-1 some years ago and it was built to plans.That means there are no gap seals on the wings nor the tail. With all thistalkabout slightly improved performance, I would like some recommendationsfrom those who have put gap seals on their PIETs or GN-1s after their planeswere built.I feel changing my 69x39 McCauley metal prop on my A-80 and installing gapseals would enhance my plane's overall performance. The plane flies slightlynose high and has a spring trim but does not do much good. I am afraid changing to a lighter wooden 72x42 prop would make the plane fly even more nose high. So I have been hesitate to change anything on theplane but feel changing the prop and filling in the gaps between the wingsand the horizontal stab. would improve performance during the summermonths.As always, the bank of knowledge afforded in this group is greatlyappreciated.Thanks.Mike KingGN-177MKDallasAttachment: http://www.matronics.com/enclosures/5b2 ... __________ Message 3 _____________________________________In Graham's words:"If you keep a Pietenpol simple and light, a strong Continental A65 willwork fine for you--provided you don't expect it to do what it was neverdesigned to do. ... If I were to build another Pietenpol, I would workhard to keep it as light as possible in order to fly well with modestpower.".On Saturday I spent the day at the Brussels, Ontario 17th AnnualPietenpol gathering at Armstrong's field. I spoke a bit with BrianKenney, whose C-FAUK has been flying for 19 years behind a 65HPContinental. He says he has no problem carrying 200(+)lb passengers. Buthe emphasized the importance of keeping the weight of the plane down asmuch as possible. I believe he said his empty weight was 587lb - so itis possible to build lighter if we really make the effort.As for the fly-in, it was a beautiful sunny day, with unfortunately astrong breeze that kept the Air Campers camping (on the ground). Butthere were 5 Piets (and 3 Tiger Moths) to look at and snap pictures ofand talk to owners and builders about. Our host, Jim Armstrong has beenflying his Piet out of his strip for 39 years. He even used to fly it toschool regularly for 24 years (where he was a teacher). He told me hehas about 1000 hrs on his 65HP Air Camper, which still has the originalcovering (Irish Linen on the wings, Grade A cotton on the tail, andDacron on the fuselage). He and his son have just completed their secondPiet, which is almost identical to the first (85HP, all Dacroncovering). The second one took 30 years to complete - started as ateenage father-son project, then got set aside for awhile, then gotresurrected and completed. Really nice finishing on this plane. Jim saidit was his first attempt at covering an entire plane, and he took greatcare to ensure all the tapes were straight and neat, and he was pleasedwith the results.I took a bunch of photos, but won't get access to them to download forabout a week. As soon as I get them, I'll post a few to share.Now I'm stoked to get building again, just like after Brodhead (which isonly five weeks away).Bill C.________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________My thanks to all that are discussing the Pietenpol and the A65. I'm just in the act of buying one and will be flying it from the Georgia/Florida line to Western Tennessee. Your discussion has been helpful and gives me some idea what I'm in for. I'm really looking forward to the plane and the trip but I'm more use to 1700' a minute rather than 600 or 700' a minute. It will take a little getting use to but I'm excited to fly the Pietenpol. I'm not in a hurry and I'm sure it will make me a better pilot.Any advise from you guys and gals would be very appreciated.Thank YouGenePietenpol N502R----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:55 AM> >> As always, Graham posted an outstanding reply. I concur with everything > he said. My Pietenpol has an A65, and it is adequate for solo flying. > For carrying passengers on a hot day, unless you have a long runway or > VERY clear approaches at your field, it can cause a bit of > sphincter-clinch on takeoff. It also cannot cope with much of a > downdraft. I'll never forget flying it across West Virginia last year on > the way to Brodhead. I was at 4,000' and trying to climb over a 4400' > ridge, climbing at my best rate of climb and losing 500 fpm in a > downdraft.>>> Yesterday I took my EAA Flight Advisor up in mine. He weighs 205 (I weigh > 195) and we had a full tank of fuel (90 lbs). Adding all that to my 745 > lb empty weight, and we were at 1235 lbs. - a heavy load indeed. OAT was > 91 F, and density altitude was about 2500'. Fortunately I had enough > sense to not try this from the 2,000' strip with 120' trees at the end > where I base the plane. We flew out of Sanford, NC (TTA) where the runway > is 6500' long with unobstructed approaches for at least mile on either > end of the runway. Takeoff was impressive - we were off the ground in > about 600'. Climbout was less impressive, but still acceptable at 150 fpm. > He loved the airplane (other than its climb rate). BTW at that weight, > stall speed was 42 mph indicated.>>> If I had it to do over again, I would put a C-85 in it. Or fly from > longer airstrips. If I had tried yesterday's flight from my home field, we > would have impacted the trees at the end about 70 feet below the treetops. > If I were to build another one, I might seriously look at adding 4 feet to > the wingspan, which would add about 25 lbs to the weight, but would add 20 > sq. ft to the wing area.>>> One other note on a topic that has been discussed recently - yesterday I > sealed the gaps between my elevators and horizontal stabilizer with duct > tape. I found a slight improvement in time to raise the tail on takeoff, > and about a 2 mph improvement in cruise speed. I also found that it > changed the trim of the airplane. Before this change I could trim the > plane to fly hands off using my spring trim system. Now even with full > nose up trim it still tends to nose down slightly, indicating that the > tail is providing more lift than before.>>> Jack Phillips>> NX899JP>> Raleigh, NC>>> -----Original Message-----> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 2:36 PM>>> Ken Heide,>>> Our elevation here in central Alberta, Canada is about 2500' msl which is > quite a bit higher than yours in Fargo, ND.>>> For the first couple of years, my Pietenpol was powered by an A65 > Continental. Its performance was adequate when flying solo, but the climb > rate was sluggish with an adult passenger aboard on a hot day. In cruise > with a load, one had to work the A65 pretty hard to maintain altitude; > there was little power in reserve to deal with downdrafts.>>> Then I obtained a C85 and the difference was dramatic, to say the least. > With only a slight weight increase, power was increased by nearly 31%! The > most significant improvement was in the climb rate, and the cruise speed > increased by about 7-8 mph. The takeoff run was shortened, but not by > much; even with the A65, the a/c had always seemed to perform well within > ground effect. Nowadays, I have power in reserve to climb over obstacles > and cope with downdrafts.>>> When the Pietenpol was designed, people were smaller and lighter. We tend > to forget that the Pietenpol is a small airplane when compared to > Taylorcrafts, Cubs and Aeroncas with the same power. Typically, these > airplanes have a wingspan of 35 - 36 feet with a wing area of 175 - 180 > square feet versus the Pietenpol's 29 foot span and about 145 square > feet.Their aspect ratio is around seven compared to the Pietenpol's 5.8, > making them much better gliders than the Pietenpol. When one considers > that all these airplanes essentially were designed around smaller people, > they do rather well hauling a couple of 200(+) pounders these days. If we > all weighed perhaps 150 to 170 pounds, our little airplanes would perform > much better because that is close to what they were designed to carry.>>> However, we have to face the fact that people are bigger and heavier these > days--and the airplanes we love are not any larger. About all we can do is > keep them (and us) as light as possible and increase the available power > (without adding too much weight, of course).>>> In my experience, the Continental C85-8 engine is about the optimum engine > for the Pietenpol. It is only slightly heavier than the A65-8 and provides > the same clearance between the magnetos and the firewall. I have a C85-12 > in my Pietenpol and it is a bit heavier than the -8 version because of the > rear accessory case, which makes for a tight fit between the magnetos and > the firewall. (A longer engine mount would cure this problem, but I don't > wish to build new cowlings, etc.)>>> If you keep a Pietenpol simple and light, a strong Continental A65 will > work fine for you--provided you don't expect it to do what it was never > designed to do. Having the optimum engine/ propeller combination is > extremely important. I have yet to find the very best propeller for > mine--either with the A65 or the C85 engines. If you are lucky, you may > find a custom propeller that is close to ideal for your airplane, but a > fixed pitch propeller is always a compromise and one usually has to try > out a lot of different ones. Off-the-shelf certified propellers will work, > but they may not be the best for your setup.>>> As always, it is best to improve efficiency before simply adding power. If > I were to build another Pietenpol, I would work hard to keep it as light > as possible in order to fly well with modest power.>>> Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN>>> _________________________________________________>> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - >>> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________Gene,Where in West Tennessee are you going? I'm from Jackson, TN (MKL)originally and flew my Pietenpol there from Oshkosh last summer, afterattending the real fly-in at Brodhead. I understand there is aPietenpol under construction in Lexington, east of Jackson.On the way home from Jackson to Raleigh, I landed at Pulaski, TN, and=== message truncated ==---------------------------------=== message truncated == ---------------------------------at 1/min.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadTravel distance to Janesville is about 30 minutes and then another 20 minutes toRockford.How far is it from Rockford to Broadhead? I am gathering some thoughts on how tocombine business with passion and really need to see examples and continue theprebuild research.ThanksJohn -----Original Message-----The Brodhead dates are Fri Jul 21-- Sun Jul 23.I plan to drive up and get there as early as possible on Friday. I will have a car for errands, supplies, beer runs, etc. I will be camping there on Fridaynight, but will likely move to a motel in Rockford on Saturday, for I am meetingan old friend from Chicago who says his 75-yr.-old back doesn't do air matressesany longer. That's my plan for now.Chuck Gantzer told me he was likely going up Thursday to get settled in. Oscar has told me he cannot go this year.Corky, are you thinking of going? I'll have the scotch this time. I look forward to meeting you all.Tim . 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HTML Version:http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenp ... 9.htmlText Version:http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenp ... =====EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive===============================================----------------------------------------------------------Pietenpol-List Digest Archive---Total Messages Posted Mon 06/19/06: 13----------------------------------------------------------Today's Message Index:----------------------1. 04:59 AM - Re: Engine selection (Phillips, Jack)2. 06:07 AM - GN-1 Gap Seals (Mike King)3. 08:02 AM - Re: Engine selection (Bill Church)4. 09:36 AM - Re: Engine selection (Gene & Tammy)5. 09:56 AM - Re: Engine selection (Phillips, Jack)6. 10:52 AM - Re: Engine selection (Gene & Tammy)7. 11:08 AM - Re: Engine selection (Steve Eldredge)8. 11:57 AM - Engine selection (HelsperSew(at)aol.com)9. 01:23 PM - Re: Engine selection (KMHeide)10. 06:58 PM - Re: Engine selection (Dick Navratil)11. 07:07 PM - radial eng chopper (Dick Navratil)12. 07:16 PM - Re: Covering (Peter W Johnson)13. 08:14 PM - Re: Engine selection (Gene & Tammy)________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________As always, Graham posted an outstanding reply. I concur with everything he said.My Pietenpol has an A65, and it is adequate for solo flying. For carryingpassengers on a hot day, unless you have a long runway or VERY clear approachesat your field, it can cause a bit of sphincter-clinch on takeoff. It alsocannot cope with much of a downdraft. I'll never forget flying it across WestVirginia last year on the way to Brodhead. I was at 4,000' and trying to climbover a 4400' ridge, climbing at my best rate of climb and losing 500 fpm ina downdraft.Yesterday I took my EAA Flight Advisor up in mine. He weighs 205 (I weigh 195)and we had a full tank of fuel (90 lbs). Adding all that to my 745 lb emptyweight, and we were at 1235 lbs. - a heavy load indeed. OAT was 91 F, and densityaltitude was about 2500'. Fortunately I had enough sense to not try thisfrom the 2,000' strip with 120' trees at the end where I base the plane. Weflew out of Sanford, NC (TTA) where the runway is 6500' long with unobstructedapproaches for at least mile on either end of the runway. Takeoff was impressive- we were off the ground in about 600'. Climbout was less impressive, butstill acceptable at 150 fpm. He loved the airplane (other than its climb rate).BTW at that weight, stall speed was 42 mph indicated.If I had it to do over again, I would put a C-85 in it. Or fly from longer airstrips.If I had tried yesterday's flight from my home field, we would have impactedthe trees at the end about 70 feet below the treetops. If I were to buildanother one, I might seriously look at adding 4 feet to the wingspan, whichwould add about 25 lbs to the weight, but would add 20 sq. ft to the wing area.One other note on a topic that has been discussed recently - yesterday I sealedthe gaps between my elevators and horizontal stabilizer with duct tape. I founda slight improvement in time to raise the tail on takeoff, and about a 2 mphimprovement in cruise speed. I also found that it changed the trim of theairplane. Before this change I could trim the plane to fly hands off using myspring trim system. Now even with full nose up trim it still tends to nose downslightly, indicating that the tail is providing more lift than before.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 2:36 PMKen Heide,Our elevation here in central Alberta, Canada is about 2500' msl which is quitea bit higher than yours in Fargo, ND.For the first couple of years, my Pietenpol was powered by an A65 Continental.Its performance was adequate when flying solo, but the climb rate was sluggishwith an adult passenger aboard on a hot day. In cruise with a load, one had towork the A65 pretty hard to maintain altitude; there was little power in reserveto deal with downdrafts.Then I obtained a C85 and the difference was dramatic, to say the least. With onlya slight weight increase, power was increased by nearly 31%! The most significantimprovement was in the climb rate, and the cruise speed increased by about7-8 mph. The takeoff run was shortened, but not by much; even with the A65,the a/c had always seemed to perform well within ground effect. Nowadays, Ihave power in reserve to climb over obstacles and cope with downdrafts.When the Pietenpol was designed, people were smaller and lighter. We tend to forgetthat the Pietenpol is a small airplane when compared to Taylorcrafts, Cubsand Aeroncas with the same power. Typically, these airplanes have a wingspanof 35 - 36 feet with a wing area of 175 - 180 square feet versus the Pietenpol's29 foot span and about 145 square feet.Their aspect ratio is around sevencompared to the Pietenpol's 5.8, making them much better gliders than the Pietenpol.When one considers that all these airplanes essentially were designed aroundsmaller people, they do rather well hauling a couple of 200(+) poundersthese days. If we all weighed perhaps 150 to 170 pounds, our little airplaneswould perform much better because that is close to what they were designed tocarry.However, we have to face the fact that people are bigger and heavier these days--andthe airplanes we love are not any larger. About all we can do is keep them(and us) as light as possible and increase the available power (without addingtoo much weight, of course).In my experience, the Continental C85-8 engine is about the optimum engine forthe Pietenpol. It is only slightly heavier than the A65-8 and provides the sameclearance between the magnetos and the firewall. I have a C85-12 in my Pietenpoland it is a bit heavier than the -8 version because of the rear accessorycase, which makes for a tight fit between the magnetos and the firewall. (A longerengine mount would cure this problem, but I don't wish to build new cowlings,etc.)If you keep a Pietenpol simple and light, a strong Continental A65 will work finefor you--provided you don't expect it to do what it was never designed to do.Having the optimum engine/ propeller combination is extremely important. Ihave yet to find the very best propeller for mine--either with the A65 or theC85 engines. If you are lucky, you may find a custom propeller that is close toideal for your airplane, but a fixed pitch propeller is always a compromiseand one usually has to try out a lot of different ones. Off-the-shelf certifiedpropellers will work, but they may not be the best for your setup.As always, it is best to improve efficiency before simply adding power. If I wereto build another Pietenpol, I would work hard to keep it as light as possiblein order to fly well with modest power.Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN_________________________________________________or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error,please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other useof the email by you is prohibited.________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________BlankSay guys, I bought my 1985 GN-1 some years ago and it was built to plans.That means there are no gap seals on the wings nor the tail. With all thistalkabout slightly improved performance, I would like some recommendationsfrom those who have put gap seals on their PIETs or GN-1s after their planeswere built.I feel changing my 69x39 McCauley metal prop on my A-80 and installing gapseals would enhance my plane's overall performance. The plane flies slightlynose high and has a spring trim but does not do much good. I am afraid changing to a lighter wooden 72x42 prop would make the plane fly even more nose high. So I have been hesitate to change anything on theplane but feel changing the prop and filling in the gaps between the wingsand the horizontal stab. would improve performance during the summermonths.As always, the bank of knowledge afforded in this group is greatlyappreciated.Thanks.Mike KingGN-177MKDallasAttachment: http://www.matronics.com/enclosures/5b2 ... __________ Message 3 _____________________________________In Graham's words:"If you keep a Pietenpol simple and light, a strong Continental A65 willwork fine for you--provided you don't expect it to do what it was neverdesigned to do. ... If I were to build another Pietenpol, I would workhard to keep it as light as possible in order to fly well with modestpower.".On Saturday I spent the day at the Brussels, Ontario 17th AnnualPietenpol gathering at Armstrong's field. I spoke a bit with BrianKenney, whose C-FAUK has been flying for 19 years behind a 65HPContinental. He says he has no problem carrying 200(+)lb passengers. Buthe emphasized the importance of keeping the weight of the plane down asmuch as possible. I believe he said his empty weight was 587lb - so itis possible to build lighter if we really make the effort.As for the fly-in, it was a beautiful sunny day, with unfortunately astrong breeze that kept the Air Campers camping (on the ground). Butthere were 5 Piets (and 3 Tiger Moths) to look at and snap pictures ofand talk to owners and builders about. Our host, Jim Armstrong has beenflying his Piet out of his strip for 39 years. He even used to fly it toschool regularly for 24 years (where he was a teacher). He told me hehas about 1000 hrs on his 65HP Air Camper, which still has the originalcovering (Irish Linen on the wings, Grade A cotton on the tail, andDacron on the fuselage). He and his son have just completed their secondPiet, which is almost identical to the first (85HP, all Dacroncovering). The second one took 30 years to complete - started as ateenage father-son project, then got set aside for awhile, then gotresurrected and completed. Really nice finishing on this plane. Jim saidit was his first attempt at covering an entire plane, and he took greatcare to ensure all the tapes were straight and neat, and he was pleasedwith the results.I took a bunch of photos, but won't get access to them to download forabout a week. As soon as I get them, I'll post a few to share.Now I'm stoked to get building again, just like after Brodhead (which isonly five weeks away).Bill C.________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________My thanks to all that are discussing the Pietenpol and the A65. I'm just in the act of buying one and will be flying it from the Georgia/Florida line to Western Tennessee. Your discussion has been helpful and gives me some idea what I'm in for. I'm really looking forward to the plane and the trip but I'm more use to 1700' a minute rather than 600 or 700' a minute. It will take a little getting use to but I'm excited to fly the Pietenpol. I'm not in a hurry and I'm sure it will make me a better pilot.Any advise from you guys and gals would be very appreciated.Thank YouGenePietenpol N502R----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 6:55 AM> >> As always, Graham posted an outstanding reply. I concur with everything > he said. My Pietenpol has an A65, and it is adequate for solo flying. > For carrying passengers on a hot day, unless you have a long runway or > VERY clear approaches at your field, it can cause a bit of > sphincter-clinch on takeoff. It also cannot cope with much of a > downdraft. I'll never forget flying it across West Virginia last year on > the way to Brodhead. I was at 4,000' and trying to climb over a 4400' > ridge, climbing at my best rate of climb and losing 500 fpm in a > downdraft.>>> Yesterday I took my EAA Flight Advisor up in mine. He weighs 205 (I weigh > 195) and we had a full tank of fuel (90 lbs). Adding all that to my 745 > lb empty weight, and we were at 1235 lbs. - a heavy load indeed. OAT was > 91 F, and density altitude was about 2500'. Fortunately I had enough > sense to not try this from the 2,000' strip with 120' trees at the end > where I base the plane. We flew out of Sanford, NC (TTA) where the runway > is 6500' long with unobstructed approaches for at least mile on either > end of the runway. Takeoff was impressive - we were off the ground in > about 600'. Climbout was less impressive, but still acceptable at 150 fpm. > He loved the airplane (other than its climb rate). BTW at that weight, > stall speed was 42 mph indicated.>>> If I had it to do over again, I would put a C-85 in it. Or fly from > longer airstrips. If I had tried yesterday's flight from my home field, we > would have impacted the trees at the end about 70 feet below the treetops. > If I were to build another one, I might seriously look at adding 4 feet to > the wingspan, which would add about 25 lbs to the weight, but would add 20 > sq. ft to the wing area.>>> One other note on a topic that has been discussed recently - yesterday I > sealed the gaps between my elevators and horizontal stabilizer with duct > tape. I found a slight improvement in time to raise the tail on takeoff, > and about a 2 mph improvement in cruise speed. I also found that it > changed the trim of the airplane. Before this change I could trim the > plane to fly hands off using my spring trim system. Now even with full > nose up trim it still tends to nose down slightly, indicating that the > tail is providing more lift than before.>>> Jack Phillips>> NX899JP>> Raleigh, NC>>> -----Original Message-----> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 2:36 PM>>> Ken Heide,>>> Our elevation here in central Alberta, Canada is about 2500' msl which is > quite a bit higher than yours in Fargo, ND.>>> For the first couple of years, my Pietenpol was powered by an A65 > Continental. Its performance was adequate when flying solo, but the climb > rate was sluggish with an adult passenger aboard on a hot day. In cruise > with a load, one had to work the A65 pretty hard to maintain altitude; > there was little power in reserve to deal with downdrafts.>>> Then I obtained a C85 and the difference was dramatic, to say the least. > With only a slight weight increase, power was increased by nearly 31%! The > most significant improvement was in the climb rate, and the cruise speed > increased by about 7-8 mph. The takeoff run was shortened, but not by > much; even with the A65, the a/c had always seemed to perform well within > ground effect. Nowadays, I have power in reserve to climb over obstacles > and cope with downdrafts.>>> When the Pietenpol was designed, people were smaller and lighter. We tend > to forget that the Pietenpol is a small airplane when compared to > Taylorcrafts, Cubs and Aeroncas with the same power. Typically, these > airplanes have a wingspan of 35 - 36 feet with a wing area of 175 - 180 > square feet versus the Pietenpol's 29 foot span and about 145 square > feet.Their aspect ratio is around seven compared to the Pietenpol's 5.8, > making them much better gliders than the Pietenpol. When one considers > that all these airplanes essentially were designed around smaller people, > they do rather well hauling a couple of 200(+) pounders these days. If we > all weighed perhaps 150 to 170 pounds, our little airplanes would perform > much better because that is close to what they were designed to carry.>>> However, we have to face the fact that people are bigger and heavier these > days--and the airplanes we love are not any larger. About all we can do is > keep them (and us) as light as possible and increase the available power > (without adding too much weight, of course).>>> In my experience, the Continental C85-8 engine is about the optimum engine > for the Pietenpol. It is only slightly heavier than the A65-8 and provides > the same clearance between the magnetos and the firewall. I have a C85-12 > in my Pietenpol and it is a bit heavier than the -8 version because of the > rear accessory case, which makes for a tight fit between the magnetos and > the firewall. (A longer engine mount would cure this problem, but I don't > wish to build new cowlings, etc.)>>> If you keep a Pietenpol simple and light, a strong Continental A65 will > work fine for you--provided you don't expect it to do what it was never > designed to do. Having the optimum engine/ propeller combination is > extremely important. I have yet to find the very best propeller for > mine--either with the A65 or the C85 engines. If you are lucky, you may > find a custom propeller that is close to ideal for your airplane, but a > fixed pitch propeller is always a compromise and one usually has to try > out a lot of different ones. Off-the-shelf certified propellers will work, > but they may not be the best for your setup.>>> As always, it is best to improve efficiency before simply adding power. If > I were to build another Pietenpol, I would work hard to keep it as light > as possible in order to fly well with modest power.>>> Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN>>> _________________________________________________>> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the >> Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - >>> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________Gene,Where in West Tennessee are you going? I'm from Jackson, TN (MKL)originally and flew my Pietenpol there from Oshkosh last summer, afterattending the real fly-in at Brodhead. I understand there is aPietenpol under construction in Lexington, east of Jackson.On the way home from Jackson to Raleigh, I landed at Pulaski, TN, and=== message truncated ==---------------------------------=== message truncated == ---------------------------------at 1/min.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: Rcaprd(at)aol.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadHello Group, My name is Shad Bell, Gary Bell's son, and just wondering if anyone would liketo meet up in Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois and fly in to brodhead as a group.Dad and I plan on leaving Delaware Ohio in the early morning on friday. Ourplanned route is more or less following route 30 accross In, IL and around thewest side of Rockford. Our first stop should be Van Wert in N/W Ohio then onwest. We just finnished our 40 hr test phase and so far no problems except theoil presure gauge leaking into the face of the instrument. Don't buy Farisbrand engine gauges both the oil temp and pressure gauges have been replaced.The oil temp did not even last untill the 1st flight, the pressure gauge startedleaking around 40 hrs. Any way hope to see you all at Brodhead. Shad Bell ---------------------------------See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadHello Group, My name is Shad Bell, Gary Bell's son, and just wondering if anyone would liketo meet up in Ohio, Indiana, or Illinois and fly in to brodhead as a group.Dad and I plan on leaving Delaware Ohio in the early morning on friday. Ourplanned route is more or less following route 30 accross In, IL and around thewest side of Rockford. Our first stop should be Van Wert in N/W Ohio then onwest. We just finnished our 40 hr test phase and so far no problems except theoil presure gauge leaking into the face of the instrument. Don't buy Farisbrand engine gauges both the oil temp and pressure gauges have been replaced.The oil temp did not even last untill the 1st flight, the pressure gauge startedleaking around 40 hrs. Any way hope to see you all at Brodhead. Shad Bell ---------------------------------See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: Michael D Cuy
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadWish I were there! I'd even be happy with being on my way if I werelate.Good luck and good flying to those headed to Brodhead. Have an extrapork chop for me.Oh, to land in the grass again.Steve e________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadWish I were there! I'd even be happy with being on my way if I werelate.Good luck and good flying to those headed to Brodhead. Have an extrapork chop for me.Oh, to land in the grass again.Steve e________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "tmbrant1(at)netzero.com"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadThere was definitely some rain on Friday and some late Saturday -- on the north side of Brodhead. We drove to Brodhead from La Crosse on Friday afternoon-- rained most of the trip, but stopped once we got to Brodhead and there was alot of flying going on. Saturday morning it was nice weather and lots of flying going on again....kept watching for Chuck G. to make a smoky arrival, butas he mentions, too much weather to the south. Yours truly was treated to a ride in Ken Perkins Piet! (Many thanks again, Ken and Richard!) What a thrill! And yes, big guys can get into the front pit and yes, she flew just great despite the front seat load! There's nothing likethe sound and smell of that little Model A crackling away up front! I'll try topost some pictures in the morning. Just to give you an idea how "jazzed" I was -- we headed out away from Brodhead for a few minutes. Saw a red-tailed hawk and made a turn with him...andthen we were flying along and I was so excited and taking pics like crazy and then I looked down and saw this little airfield and I thought to myself, "Geez!Look at that cool little airfield and all the planes and there's even more landing and taking off!" And then I caught myself, "Oh, yeah, that Brodhead wherewe just took off from!" Well, after landing I think I would have given Ken a million bucks right then and there for his little orange and cream gem! The pork chop dinner was great although we saw some flies (yes, the little six-legged insect kind) take off with a pork chop and head west! Another groupof flies had the apple sauce cup and still others had the dinner roll! No lie!They even flew in a stacked echelon formation! Ran into lots of rain just north of Janesville on the ride home -- was all tucked into bed by 10:30 Saturday night dreaming about Piets -- and I was up early this morning so I could work on my own Piet! I always head home Saturdaynight 'cause I'm so fired up I just have to get home so I can spend Sunday working on my own "kite" -- wish I didn't have to go to my real job tomorrow! Bought a complete set of control horns from Ken P. -- very nice! And they fit my elevators and rudder just perfectly! My wife went along with me this year -- first time to Brodhead for her and she said it was one of the top five vacations we've ever taken -- even if it wasfor only two days! She was very impressed by the activities and how friendly everyone is...well, that's what I've been telling her for the last two years.So, we'll be back again next year! More later! Best regards to all! Only 363 days 'til Brodhead '07!Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadThere was definitely some rain on Friday and some late Saturday -- on the north side of Brodhead. We drove to Brodhead from La Crosse on Friday afternoon-- rained most of the trip, but stopped once we got to Brodhead and there was alot of flying going on. Saturday morning it was nice weather and lots of flying going on again....kept watching for Chuck G. to make a smoky arrival, butas he mentions, too much weather to the south. Yours truly was treated to a ride in Ken Perkins Piet! (Many thanks again, Ken and Richard!) What a thrill! And yes, big guys can get into the front pit and yes, she flew just great despite the front seat load! There's nothing likethe sound and smell of that little Model A crackling away up front! I'll try topost some pictures in the morning. Just to give you an idea how "jazzed" I was -- we headed out away from Brodhead for a few minutes. Saw a red-tailed hawk and made a turn with him...andthen we were flying along and I was so excited and taking pics like crazy and then I looked down and saw this little airfield and I thought to myself, "Geez!Look at that cool little airfield and all the planes and there's even more landing and taking off!" And then I caught myself, "Oh, yeah, that Brodhead wherewe just took off from!" Well, after landing I think I would have given Ken a million bucks right then and there for his little orange and cream gem! The pork chop dinner was great although we saw some flies (yes, the little six-legged insect kind) take off with a pork chop and head west! Another groupof flies had the apple sauce cup and still others had the dinner roll! No lie!They even flew in a stacked echelon formation! Ran into lots of rain just north of Janesville on the ride home -- was all tucked into bed by 10:30 Saturday night dreaming about Piets -- and I was up early this morning so I could work on my own Piet! I always head home Saturdaynight 'cause I'm so fired up I just have to get home so I can spend Sunday working on my own "kite" -- wish I didn't have to go to my real job tomorrow! Bought a complete set of control horns from Ken P. -- very nice! And they fit my elevators and rudder just perfectly! My wife went along with me this year -- first time to Brodhead for her and she said it was one of the top five vacations we've ever taken -- even if it wasfor only two days! She was very impressed by the activities and how friendly everyone is...well, that's what I've been telling her for the last two years.So, we'll be back again next year! More later! Best regards to all! Only 363 days 'til Brodhead '07!Fred B. La Crosse, WI ________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Arden Adamson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadDoes Ken P. make the control horns and sell them? How much?Tom B.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadDoes Ken P. make the control horns and sell them? How much?Tom B.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Robert Gow"
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadI am recently back to the list after more than 10 years, so please forgive me if I ask dumb questions as a result of being out of the loop. Does Brodhead coincide with the first weekend of AirVenture? Next year will be my first opportunity to make it, so I would like to plan for it now. What is the story on camping of hotels? Dave: Thanks again for the spruce. It is truly beautiful stuff, and all the old news letters were almost worth the price alone. JM: I'm still interested in that A motor you have. Mike Cuy: Are you still around? What a great inspiration you have been, along with Grant Mac. Ron________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadI am recently back to the list after more than 10 years, so please forgive me if I ask dumb questions as a result of being out of the loop. Does Brodhead coincide with the first weekend of AirVenture? Next year will be my first opportunity to make it, so I would like to plan for it now. What is the story on camping of hotels? Dave: Thanks again for the spruce. It is truly beautiful stuff, and all the old news letters were almost worth the price alone. JM: I'm still interested in that A motor you have. Mike Cuy: Are you still around? What a great inspiration you have been, along with Grant Mac. Ron________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Oscar Zuniga"
I will definetly be there, although I may not be flying down this year. I hope to have my new Piet done by then and hopefully will trailer it down as test flights will just be begining. Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________
I will definetly be there, although I may not be flying down this year. I hope to have my new Piet done by then and hopefully will trailer it down as test flights will just be begining. Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________
Original Posted By: "Rick Holland"
Hey Guys...I just thought I would post the forum schedule for the Saturday of the Piet Fly-inat Brodhead.http://pietenpols.tripod.com/id1.htmlI'm sure most of you have already seen this, but I thought I'd let everyone know.We all owe Doc Mosher a big THANKS for puttung these forums together. Shouldbe a good one this year. Hopefully we can get a good turnout of enthusiasts,builders, old timers, new timers, and of course, Piets.I'm hoping to get there with mine on Thursday evening. Hopefully I'll be travelingwith Frank Pavliga and Sky Gypsy. For those of you who have loved his shipfor years this may be your last chance to see it in that configuration. It'sgetting a restoration soon and I have a feeling it won't look the same afterwards.
I'm sure it'll be beautiful though!Hope to see you in Brodhead!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:51:19 -0600
Hey Guys...I just thought I would post the forum schedule for the Saturday of the Piet Fly-inat Brodhead.http://pietenpols.tripod.com/id1.htmlI'm sure most of you have already seen this, but I thought I'd let everyone know.We all owe Doc Mosher a big THANKS for puttung these forums together. Shouldbe a good one this year. Hopefully we can get a good turnout of enthusiasts,builders, old timers, new timers, and of course, Piets.I'm hoping to get there with mine on Thursday evening. Hopefully I'll be travelingwith Frank Pavliga and Sky Gypsy. For those of you who have loved his shipfor years this may be your last chance to see it in that configuration. It'sgetting a restoration soon and I have a feeling it won't look the same afterwards.
I'm sure it'll be beautiful though!Hope to see you in Brodhead!Don EmchNX899DERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:51:19 -0600Re: Pietenpol-List: Hans' award-winning Piet
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hans' award-winning PietHans,Beautifully made airplane! How much higher than plans did you make your cabanes? Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hans' award-winning PietHans,Beautifully made airplane! How much higher than plans did you make your cabanes? Dan HelsperPoplar Grove, IL.************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: shad bell
Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
I am planning on arriving on Thur and leaving on Sun and then driving to OSH. No one has ever brought up group camping at OSH, any interest?Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
I am planning on arriving on Thur and leaving on Sun and then driving to OSH. No one has ever brought up group camping at OSH, any interest?Dick N.________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Dan Wilson, driving arrival Friday noon - Sun morning then on to Oshkosh.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Dan Wilson, driving arrival Friday noon - Sun morning then on to Oshkosh.Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com
Anyone from the New England need a rider to share fuel expenses to Brodheadand Osh, let me know. I have an old friend who has never been and wants to kick some tires, he is thinking about switching from driving race cars to flying.Please contact me for information.Thanks, Chrissi-CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Anyone from the New England need a rider to share fuel expenses to Brodheadand Osh, let me know. I have an old friend who has never been and wants to kick some tires, he is thinking about switching from driving race cars to flying.Please contact me for information.Thanks, Chrissi-CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com!=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "Gardiner Mason"
Pat,No, there isn't a specific website dedicated to the Piet gathering. Butthere are these two sites that should help:This is the local EAA chapter website:http://www.eaa431.org/And this is the Brodhead Pietenpol Association website:http://pietenpols.org/Aside from that, here's the basics. The very informal "gathering" takesplace at the Brodhead airport from Friday thru Sunday. Friday is usuallyactually a busy day, with arrivals by air and road. Saturday is the busiestday, with forums being held for about six hours of the day. Sunday isusually pretty low-key, with most attendees leaving by about noon (eitheroff to Oshkosh or back on the road back home). Camping is permitted at theairport (usually $10 for the weekend). There is one shower. Meals are servedat the airport (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Brodhead is a small town, withonly one hotel and a B&B (I think). Nearby Monroe has a few motels. But,since everything is right there at the airport (including all thePietenpols) why would you want to sleep in a real bed? Brodhead airporthouses a fantastic collection of rare and antique aircraft, and the ownersusually open their hangars and let the public wander around. It's quiteunique. The atmosphere for the gathering is friendly, relaxed and welcoming.You just gotta go!Bill C.-----Original Message-------> Is there a specific website with logistical details?Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Pat,No, there isn't a specific website dedicated to the Piet gathering. Butthere are these two sites that should help:This is the local EAA chapter website:http://www.eaa431.org/And this is the Brodhead Pietenpol Association website:http://pietenpols.org/Aside from that, here's the basics. The very informal "gathering" takesplace at the Brodhead airport from Friday thru Sunday. Friday is usuallyactually a busy day, with arrivals by air and road. Saturday is the busiestday, with forums being held for about six hours of the day. Sunday isusually pretty low-key, with most attendees leaving by about noon (eitheroff to Oshkosh or back on the road back home). Camping is permitted at theairport (usually $10 for the weekend). There is one shower. Meals are servedat the airport (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Brodhead is a small town, withonly one hotel and a B&B (I think). Nearby Monroe has a few motels. But,since everything is right there at the airport (including all thePietenpols) why would you want to sleep in a real bed? Brodhead airporthouses a fantastic collection of rare and antique aircraft, and the ownersusually open their hangars and let the public wander around. It's quiteunique. The atmosphere for the gathering is friendly, relaxed and welcoming.You just gotta go!Bill C.-----Original Message-------> Is there a specific website with logistical details?Pat________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com
Thanks Bill, that was the info I was after.I'm gonna try to make it for all day Saturday, driving in of course. :(Pat> > > Pat,> > No, there isn't a specific website dedicated to the Piet gathering. But> there are these two sites that should help:> > This is the local EAA chapter website:> http://www.eaa431.org/> > And this is the Brodhead Pietenpol Association website:> http://pietenpols.org/> > Aside from that, here's the basics. The very informal "gathering" takes> place at the Brodhead airport from Friday thru Sunday. Friday is usually> actually a busy day, with arrivals by air and road. Saturday is the> busiest> day, with forums being held for about six hours of the day. Sunday is> usually pretty low-key, with most attendees leaving by about noon (either> off to Oshkosh or back on the road back home). Camping is permitted at the> airport (usually $10 for the weekend). There is one shower. Meals are> served> at the airport (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Brodhead is a small town,> with> only one hotel and a B&B (I think). Nearby Monroe has a few motels. But,> since everything is right there at the airport (including all the> Pietenpols) why would you want to sleep in a real bed? Brodhead airport> houses a fantastic collection of rare and antique aircraft, and the owners> usually open their hangars and let the public wander around. It's quite> unique. The atmosphere for the gathering is friendly, relaxed and> welcoming.> You just gotta go!> > Bill C.________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks Bill, that was the info I was after.I'm gonna try to make it for all day Saturday, driving in of course. :(Pat> > > Pat,> > No, there isn't a specific website dedicated to the Piet gathering. But> there are these two sites that should help:> > This is the local EAA chapter website:> http://www.eaa431.org/> > And this is the Brodhead Pietenpol Association website:> http://pietenpols.org/> > Aside from that, here's the basics. The very informal "gathering" takes> place at the Brodhead airport from Friday thru Sunday. Friday is usually> actually a busy day, with arrivals by air and road. Saturday is the> busiest> day, with forums being held for about six hours of the day. Sunday is> usually pretty low-key, with most attendees leaving by about noon (either> off to Oshkosh or back on the road back home). Camping is permitted at the> airport (usually $10 for the weekend). There is one shower. Meals are> served> at the airport (breakfast, lunch and dinner). Brodhead is a small town,> with> only one hotel and a B&B (I think). Nearby Monroe has a few motels. But,> since everything is right there at the airport (including all the> Pietenpols) why would you want to sleep in a real bed? Brodhead airport> houses a fantastic collection of rare and antique aircraft, and the owners> usually open their hangars and let the public wander around. It's quite> unique. The atmosphere for the gathering is friendly, relaxed and> welcoming.> You just gotta go!> > Bill C.________________________________________________________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadIts amusing to hear this from the other side of the coin; over on the Canard lists they are discussing how not to fall out of the sky when they get backed up behind the planes that have a VNE 20 kts above the canards minimum. We are really looking forward to our seventh Oshkosh & our first Brodhead.Regards, Chrissi & RandiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 7:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com writes:You=99ll love it, Shad. Nothing like trying to keep up with all the RV=99s and Lancairs on the approach from Ripon. Jack Phillips ____________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadIts amusing to hear this from the other side of the coin; over on the Canard lists they are discussing how not to fall out of the sky when they get backed up behind the planes that have a VNE 20 kts above the canards minimum. We are really looking forward to our seventh Oshkosh & our first Brodhead.Regards, Chrissi & RandiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 7:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com writes:You=99ll love it, Shad. Nothing like trying to keep up with all the RV=99s and Lancairs on the approach from Ripon. Jack Phillips ____________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: AMsafetyC(at)aol.com
We will be in the second wave from Georgia. 4 of the 6 Big Piet Builders ( Frank, Harold, Mike and myself) are flying up in 2 Cessna 172's. Coming up on Friday and departing Sunday. No Oshkosh this year, we are spending the week covering.Barry DavisPS: Jack, if we pass you, we'll wave)>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
We will be in the second wave from Georgia. 4 of the 6 Big Piet Builders ( Frank, Harold, Mike and myself) are flying up in 2 Cessna 172's. Coming up on Friday and departing Sunday. No Oshkosh this year, we are spending the week covering.Barry DavisPS: Jack, if we pass you, we'll wave)>>> ________________________________________________________________________________
Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "Barry Davis"
Steve Chase~~Coming in Thurs with my 20 yr old son, via American Airlines, thenover to Osh on Sun. Also camping out. Look forward to seeing everyone there!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Steve Chase~~Coming in Thurs with my 20 yr old son, via American Airlines, thenover to Osh on Sun. Also camping out. Look forward to seeing everyone there!Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gardiner Mason" How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gardiner Mason" How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
First a Parrot, now a Canard. Isn't that some kind of duck?John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 9, 2008, at 12:07 PM, CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com wrote:> Its amusing to hear this from the other side of the coin; over on > the Canard lists they are discussing how not to fall out of the sky > when they get backed up behind the planes that have a VNE 20 kts > above the canards minimum.> We are really looking forward to our seventh Oshkosh & our first > Brodhead.> Regards, Chrissi & Randi>> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware> www.CozyGirrrl.com> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details> ==============================> If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires> we fill out a form you will not hear from us.> Please do not make your spam problem ours.>> In a message dated 7/9/2008 7:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com > writes:> You=92ll love it, Shad. Nothing like trying to keep up with all the > RV=92s and Lancairs on the approach from Ripon.>>> Jack Phillips>>
First a Parrot, now a Canard. Isn't that some kind of duck?John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 9, 2008, at 12:07 PM, CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com wrote:> Its amusing to hear this from the other side of the coin; over on > the Canard lists they are discussing how not to fall out of the sky > when they get backed up behind the planes that have a VNE 20 kts > above the canards minimum.> We are really looking forward to our seventh Oshkosh & our first > Brodhead.> Regards, Chrissi & Randi>> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware> www.CozyGirrrl.com> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details> ==============================> If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires> we fill out a form you will not hear from us.> Please do not make your spam problem ours.>> In a message dated 7/9/2008 7:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com > writes:> You=92ll love it, Shad. Nothing like trying to keep up with all the > RV=92s and Lancairs on the approach from Ripon.>>> Jack Phillips>>
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallYou know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gardiner Mason" How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallYou know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net writes:--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Gardiner Mason" How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By:> "dwilson"
All of life's questions can be answered through TGWP."It's nice to have met you....Mr. Brown."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 9, 2008, at 12:45 PM, CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com wrote:> You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and > perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper,> ...we don't need no stinking movies>> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware> www.CozyGirrrl.com> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details> ==============================> If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires> we fill out a form you will not hear from us.> Please do not make your spam problem ours.>> In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com> writes:> " that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs > behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene > ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. > blind them.......>> What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?>> Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and > Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night > then Beloit Friday night Saturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of > Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.>> Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to > Beloit.>> In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net> writes:> >>> How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at> Brodhead. Gardiner> ----- Original Message -----
All of life's questions can be answered through TGWP."It's nice to have met you....Mr. Brown."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn Jul 9, 2008, at 12:45 PM, CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com wrote:> You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and > perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper,> ...we don't need no stinking movies>> CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware> www.CozyGirrrl.com> Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo> Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details> ==============================> If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires> we fill out a form you will not hear from us.> Please do not make your spam problem ours.>> In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com> writes:> " that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs > behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene > ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. > blind them.......>> What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?>> Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and > Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night > then Beloit Friday night Saturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of > Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.>> Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to > Beloit.>> In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net> writes:> >>> How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at> Brodhead. Gardiner> ----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallHello Good People,I just had a thought, not a great one, but a thought nonetheless! As I said earlier, we are planning dinner in Rockford and I got reservations for Fridayevening 7/25 in the absolute best restaurant in Rockford Ill table for 4 at the moment. I am planning on just my buddy and I so far but would certainly welcome the company of others that may be interested in a killer kick ass dinner in the best restaurant in Rockford. Naturally anyone interested in joining us for dinner are certainly welcome however they will have to arrange for transportation to Rockford and will haveto pay for their own meal and adult beverages. Knowing how you guys think I thought I should clarify that piece of information. Anyone interested should contact me off line for detailsJohnIn a message dated 7/9/2008 1:52:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com writes:You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net writes:How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallHello Good People,I just had a thought, not a great one, but a thought nonetheless! As I said earlier, we are planning dinner in Rockford and I got reservations for Fridayevening 7/25 in the absolute best restaurant in Rockford Ill table for 4 at the moment. I am planning on just my buddy and I so far but would certainly welcome the company of others that may be interested in a killer kick ass dinner in the best restaurant in Rockford. Naturally anyone interested in joining us for dinner are certainly welcome however they will have to arrange for transportation to Rockford and will haveto pay for their own meal and adult beverages. Knowing how you guys think I thought I should clarify that piece of information. Anyone interested should contact me off line for detailsJohnIn a message dated 7/9/2008 1:52:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com writes:You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, AMsafetyC(at)aol.com writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, airlion(at)bellsouth.net writes:How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Callyou can knock off the Brow stuff, I'm Waldo Pepper.... you are Waldo Pepper? You were with Ezra Styles in Munzie?In a message dated 7/9/2008 2:09:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com writes:All of life's questions can be answered through TGWP. "It's nice to have met you....Mr. Brown."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: _jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com_ (mailto:jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com) On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:45 PM, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote:You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _AMsafetyC(at)aol.com_ (mailto:AMsafetyC(at)aol.com) writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _airlion(at)bellsouth.net_ (mailto:airlion(at)bellsouth.net) writes:How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Callyou can knock off the Brow stuff, I'm Waldo Pepper.... you are Waldo Pepper? You were with Ezra Styles in Munzie?In a message dated 7/9/2008 2:09:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com writes:All of life's questions can be answered through TGWP. "It's nice to have met you....Mr. Brown."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: _jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com_ (mailto:jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com) On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:45 PM, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote:You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _AMsafetyC(at)aol.com_ (mailto:AMsafetyC(at)aol.com) writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _airlion(at)bellsouth.net_ (mailto:airlion(at)bellsouth.net) writes:How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "dwilson"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallMaybe one day we shall get the chance to fly togetherIn a message dated 7/9/2008 2:09:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com writes:All of life's questions can be answered through TGWP. "It's nice to have met you....Mr. Brown."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: _jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com_ (mailto:jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com) On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:45 PM, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote:You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _AMsafetyC(at)aol.com_ (mailto:AMsafetyC(at)aol.com) writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _airlion(at)bellsouth.net_ (mailto:airlion(at)bellsouth.net) writes:How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallMaybe one day we shall get the chance to fly togetherIn a message dated 7/9/2008 2:09:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com writes:All of life's questions can be answered through TGWP. "It's nice to have met you....Mr. Brown."John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: _jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com_ (mailto:jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com) On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:45 PM, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote:You know it sounds like you guys could just get up on stage and perform all the lines from The Great Waldo Pepper, ...we don't need no stinking moviesCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:39:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, _AMsafetyC(at)aol.com_ (mailto:AMsafetyC(at)aol.com) writes:" that was a mistake. What was ? taking his gun off. Why? Arabs behind those rocks..... ( cut to Arabs sneaking up,fight scene ensues).... "you know what I would do? throw sand in their eyes.. blind them.......What's The Great Waldo Pepper movie about?Okay I think I got my stuff nailed down.. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday Cincinnati in to Milwaukee to Rockford till Friday night then Beloit Friday nightSaturday Brodhead and Sunday fly out of Milwaukee back to Harrisburg Pa.Friday night catch up with buddy, Dinner in Rockford then on to Beloit. In a message dated 7/9/2008 9:13:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _airlion(at)bellsouth.net_ (mailto:airlion(at)bellsouth.net) writes:How about the idea of showing The Great Waldo Pepper Saturday nite at Brodhead. Gardiner----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
RE: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallThat's easy, there are no worst parts in that movie just varying degrees of great! Okay I really hated to see Ezra get whacked, but it beats the hell outof burningThey're smoking, Waldo they're smoking, don't let me burnJohnIn a message dated 7/9/2008 2:38:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rgow(at)avionicsdesign.ca writes:So what is the absolute worst part of the movie. (Hint - it's a flying scene and it comes in the first part of the film)Bobdo not archive-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallThat's easy, there are no worst parts in that movie just varying degrees of great! Okay I really hated to see Ezra get whacked, but it beats the hell outof burningThey're smoking, Waldo they're smoking, don't let me burnJohnIn a message dated 7/9/2008 2:38:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rgow(at)avionicsdesign.ca writes:So what is the absolute worst part of the movie. (Hint - it's a flying scene and it comes in the first part of the film)Bobdo not archive-----Original Message-----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadLets just say the Wright Brothers planes were canards too =)...ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:47:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com writes:First a Parrot, now a Canard. Isn't that some kind of duck? John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: _jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com_ (mailto:jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com) On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:07 PM, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote:Its amusing to hear this from the other side of the coin; over on the Canard lists they are discussing how not to fall out of the sky when they get backed up behind the planes that have a VNE 20 kts above the canards minimum. We are really looking forward to our seventh Oshkosh & our first Brodhead.Regards, Chrissi & RandiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 7:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, _Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com_ (mailto:Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com) writes:You=99ll love it, Shad. Nothing like trying to keep up with all the RV=99s and Lancairs on the approach from Ripon. Jack Phillips ____________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BrodheadLets just say the Wright Brothers planes were canards too =)...ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 12:47:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com writes:First a Parrot, now a Canard. Isn't that some kind of duck? John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: _jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com_ (mailto:jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.com) On Jul 9, 2008, at 12:07 PM, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote:Its amusing to hear this from the other side of the coin; over on the Canard lists they are discussing how not to fall out of the sky when they get backed up behind the planes that have a VNE 20 kts above the canards minimum. We are really looking forward to our seventh Oshkosh & our first Brodhead.Regards, Chrissi & RandiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details=====If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 7:49:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, _Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com_ (mailto:Jack.Phillips(at)cardinalhealth.com) writes:You=99ll love it, Shad. Nothing like trying to keep up with all the RV=99s and Lancairs on the approach from Ripon. Jack Phillips ____________________________________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Glenn Thomas"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: chris cummins
RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: "Phillips, Jack"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallGlenn, he drove an exhibition wheelstander.. a 41 willies firetruck =), he holds the Guinness World record for the longest wheelstand in a 4 wheel vehicle..few feet short of a mile.Here is a run he did in Mexico_http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Firetruck-Wheelstanderin_58309.htm_ (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Fire ... _58309.htm) I think he needs a new hobby =)Regards, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 10:20:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, glennthomas(at)flyingwood.com writes:Drove out the last 2 years from CT. (It's kind of a hike, ..about 18/19 hours worth) Flying commercial this year. Might try it again next year though.Is he possibly a Lime Rock Vintage car guy??? I've been able to make it to the Vintage weekends there a few times. The vintage car group has a lot in common with the vintage plane group. As far as Brodhead roll-call goes, I will be arriving on Thursday.On 7/9/08, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote: Anyone from the New England need a rider to share fuel expenses to Brodhead and Osh, let me know. I have an old friend who has never been and wants to kick some tires, he is thinking about switching from driving race cars to flying.Please contact me for information.Thanks, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================____________________________________ Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - _Check out TourTracker.com_ (http://www.tourtracker.com/?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) !-- Glenn ThomasStorrs, CT_http://www.flyingwood.com_ (http://www.flyingwood.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallDate: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:22:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallGlenn, he drove an exhibition wheelstander.. a 41 willies firetruck =), he holds the Guinness World record for the longest wheelstand in a 4 wheel vehicle..few feet short of a mile.Here is a run he did in Mexico_http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Firetruck-Wheelstanderin_58309.htm_ (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Fire ... _58309.htm) I think he needs a new hobby =)Regards, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardwarewww.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================If you have a "Spam Blocker" that requires we fill out a form you will not hear from us.Please do not make your spam problem ours. In a message dated 7/9/2008 10:20:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, glennthomas(at)flyingwood.com writes:Drove out the last 2 years from CT. (It's kind of a hike, ..about 18/19 hours worth) Flying commercial this year. Might try it again next year though.Is he possibly a Lime Rock Vintage car guy??? I've been able to make it to the Vintage weekends there a few times. The vintage car group has a lot in common with the vintage plane group. As far as Brodhead roll-call goes, I will be arriving on Thursday.On 7/9/08, _CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com_ (mailto:CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com) wrote: Anyone from the New England need a rider to share fuel expenses to Brodhead and Osh, let me know. I have an old friend who has never been and wants to kick some tires, he is thinking about switching from driving race cars to flying.Please contact me for information.Thanks, ChrissiCG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware_www.CozyGirrrl.com_ (http://www.cozygirrrl.com/) Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turboPlans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details==============================____________________________________ Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - _Check out TourTracker.com_ (http://www.tourtracker.com/?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) !-- Glenn ThomasStorrs, CT_http://www.flyingwood.com_ (http://www.flyingwood.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)________________________________________________________________________________Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll CallDate: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:22:55 -0400
> RE: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By:> "Phillips, Jack"
_____________________________________> > > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
_____________________________________> > > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Annual Informal Brodhead Roll Call
Original Posted By: skellytown flyer
Hello good peopleWow, what a great fly in lots of Piets, lots of rides and lots of friends new andold.After the war it was like this all the time I guess people are just getting usedto Airplanes Thanks to all that organized and worked to make it what it wasThanks for the rides Dan. Dennis asked me a bunch of questions about flying oncewe got back to the Hotel. Great meeting Santiago he's building a really nice pietJohn------Original Message------
Hello good peopleWow, what a great fly in lots of Piets, lots of rides and lots of friends new andold.After the war it was like this all the time I guess people are just getting usedto Airplanes Thanks to all that organized and worked to make it what it wasThanks for the rides Dan. Dennis asked me a bunch of questions about flying oncewe got back to the Hotel. Great meeting Santiago he's building a really nice pietJohn------Original Message------
Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
#yiv1305058386 #yiv917531085 .hmmessage P {PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;}#yiv1305058386 #yiv917531085 {FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;}Any thoughts on the best (as in cheapest) place to purchase turnbuckles these days?- Aircraft Spruce is around $28/unit as is Wicks.Tom B." target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... s.comblank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contributionhr ... c=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead
#yiv1305058386 #yiv917531085 .hmmessage P {PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TOP:0px;}#yiv1305058386 #yiv917531085 {FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;}Any thoughts on the best (as in cheapest) place to purchase turnbuckles these days?- Aircraft Spruce is around $28/unit as is Wicks.Tom B." target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet ... s.comblank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contributionhr ... c=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Richard Schreiber"
My family and I have decided to make a family trip to Brodhead this summer. Ithas been recommended by many that I attend, and I can see how the exposure wouldbe an enormous help to my project, not to mention what is sure to be somegood ol camaraderie. It is on the calendar and I've already requested the timeoff. That being said, can someone help us to plan accordingly? I mean, we are prettygood planners, but we just don't know what to expect. We are planning to driveup and tent camp and we plan to bring most of our normal camping gear, toinclude food and the necessary equipment to prepare it, but we are unsure of otheraccommodations, such as water, electricity, showers, restrooms, etc. Weare normally pretty flexible, but would prefer to pack/plan accordingly. I've tried doing a search for "Brodhead", "Fly-In" and other key words... as youcan imagine, I received tons of posts that may or may not have been relatedto the actual event. I've also looked at the Chapter 431 and BPA sites, but I'vebeen unable to gain much in the way of details... perhaps I overlooked theinformation. Any suggestions for us newbies?--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
My family and I have decided to make a family trip to Brodhead this summer. Ithas been recommended by many that I attend, and I can see how the exposure wouldbe an enormous help to my project, not to mention what is sure to be somegood ol camaraderie. It is on the calendar and I've already requested the timeoff. That being said, can someone help us to plan accordingly? I mean, we are prettygood planners, but we just don't know what to expect. We are planning to driveup and tent camp and we plan to bring most of our normal camping gear, toinclude food and the necessary equipment to prepare it, but we are unsure of otheraccommodations, such as water, electricity, showers, restrooms, etc. Weare normally pretty flexible, but would prefer to pack/plan accordingly. I've tried doing a search for "Brodhead", "Fly-In" and other key words... as youcan imagine, I received tons of posts that may or may not have been relatedto the actual event. I've also looked at the Chapter 431 and BPA sites, but I'vebeen unable to gain much in the way of details... perhaps I overlooked theinformation. Any suggestions for us newbies?--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By:> K5YAC
Mark:Food at Brodhead is catered if you want it. I usually flyin with a tent,sleeping bag, clothes and a camera. There are restaurants in Brodhead ifyou don't want to eat on the field. There is usually so much going on atthe field, I hate to leave, unless I am goinh to dinner with friends.Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
Mark:Food at Brodhead is catered if you want it. I usually flyin with a tent,sleeping bag, clothes and a camera. There are restaurants in Brodhead ifyou don't want to eat on the field. There is usually so much going on atthe field, I hate to leave, unless I am goinh to dinner with friends.Rick Schreiber> [Original Message]
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
MarkThere is camping right next to the activity area in the grass parking area. There are showers with sometimes hot water and sometimes a line to get in. There is a breakfast on Sat and dinners on Fri and Sat night. Brodhead is a small town, but has a few good restaurants and a grocery store. There s a McDonalds and Subway in walking distance. There is also a hardware store in town.You can bring a BBQ There is fresh water on site and both portapottys and indoor. There is no electricity in the camping area but there is a pavilion with picnic tables.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
MarkThere is camping right next to the activity area in the grass parking area. There are showers with sometimes hot water and sometimes a line to get in. There is a breakfast on Sat and dinners on Fri and Sat night. Brodhead is a small town, but has a few good restaurants and a grocery store. There s a McDonalds and Subway in walking distance. There is also a hardware store in town.You can bring a BBQ There is fresh water on site and both portapottys and indoor. There is no electricity in the camping area but there is a pavilion with picnic tables.Dick N.----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: amsafetyc(at)aol.com
Thanks fellas, that tells me enough to know that the necessities are covered. We'll stay tuned to the boards to learn more.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Thanks fellas, that tells me enough to know that the necessities are covered. We'll stay tuned to the boards to learn more.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: Dick N.
Having been twice now the first time I had no idea of what to expect, and againthe following year I knew what to expect it was a mix of many things I loved,people I met and there were many things missing. It was Perfect and I can't wait to see you all and do it all over again in just3 months. It just keeps getting better each time I go! Last year I brought a buddy non pilotbut great wood worker and Piet project contributor. Back in December I reinvited him, it didn't take long for him to decide. We'll see ya'll in July!John------Original Message------
Having been twice now the first time I had no idea of what to expect, and againthe following year I knew what to expect it was a mix of many things I loved,people I met and there were many things missing. It was Perfect and I can't wait to see you all and do it all over again in just3 months. It just keeps getting better each time I go! Last year I brought a buddy non pilotbut great wood worker and Piet project contributor. Back in December I reinvited him, it didn't take long for him to decide. We'll see ya'll in July!John------Original Message------
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: jorge lizarraga
Original Posted By: "Clif Dawson"
Just received my first issue of BPA News today... reading it cover to cover providedseveral more answers. Looking forward to July already.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Just received my first issue of BPA News today... reading it cover to cover providedseveral more answers. Looking forward to July already.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: From the Newswire at work this morning-Sorta OT
Original Posted By: "Tim Verthein"
I just opened my latest Sport Aviation. In it is an articleabout a diy starter for C-65's and 85's. It uses a Dewaltcordless drill and apparently works quite well.Something to think about with all these horror stories.Also around here you have to have a second personlined up ahead of time to prop for you at flyins as theywon't let you do it on your lonesome.ClifI was always taught to respect my elders,But it keeps getting harder to find one.----- Original Message -----
I just opened my latest Sport Aviation. In it is an articleabout a diy starter for C-65's and 85's. It uses a Dewaltcordless drill and apparently works quite well.Something to think about with all these horror stories.Also around here you have to have a second personlined up ahead of time to prop for you at flyins as theywon't let you do it on your lonesome.ClifI was always taught to respect my elders,But it keeps getting harder to find one.----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "Will42"
Great pics. Thanks for sharing. As a veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division, I especially likes the reenactmentphotos.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Great pics. Thanks for sharing. As a veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division, I especially likes the reenactmentphotos.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: John Hofmann
Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent camping facilitiesfor drive ins? Thanks.........Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent camping facilitiesfor drive ins? Thanks.........Read this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: "walt"
Here is a map, sort of. Due west of Janesville, WI.John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn May 28, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Will42 wrote:>> Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent > camping facilities for drive ins? Thanks.........>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Here is a map, sort of. Due west of Janesville, WI.John HofmannVice-President, Information TechnologyThe Rees Group, Inc.2810 Crossroads Drive, Ste 3800Madison, WI 53718Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150Fax: 608.443.2474Email: jhofmann(at)reesgroupinc.comOn May 28, 2009, at 3:49 PM, Will42 wrote:>> Maybe a dumb question but, exactly where is Brodhead? Are there tent > camping facilities for drive ins? Thanks.........>>> Read this topic online here:>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Brodhead is just north of the Illinois state line, south of Madison. Tentcamping is allowed and there are limited shower facilities (usually cold).They charge you $10 to camp there. There is a pork chop dinner on Saturdaynight - buy the tickets early or they will run out. It's the best two orthree days of the entire year.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----
Brodhead is just north of the Illinois state line, south of Madison. Tentcamping is allowed and there are limited shower facilities (usually cold).They charge you $10 to camp there. There is a pork chop dinner on Saturdaynight - buy the tickets early or they will run out. It's the best two orthree days of the entire year.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC-----Original Message-----