Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "K5YAC"
Hi Mr CHarlelMy experience with various carbs will give you an idea of what can be used andwhat not to use. I tried an SU, Type HD, HS, HIF with 1-1/2" in side with 1-3/8 out, If you wantthe exact No. I can get them , but the Ford ran perfect at all speeds sittingon the ground, but as I rotated off the runway the engine lost power. I havea shoe-box full of many fuel control / flow inserts. I tried all of them, to noavail, so I axed the SU.Since you have a fuel pump, as I have the Best carb I ended up with was a WeberModel 30 DIC progressive two barrel,down draft,Mounted over the manifold, thisproduced 65 HP in my Ford, and ran it a number of years.The Funk engine 63 HP with Ford B block uses a Zenith down draft and smooth curvedducts,mounted under the manifold, this is still being used on a Piet I builtin the late 80s.This is a very good combination.The Globe engine uses the Ford carb mounted backwards.Any up-draft used on lift-trucks ,also will work well.The Posa can be trouble if a shut-off is not used, started a fire with that one.I now use fuel injection with great performance 85 HP from a Ford.I have tried Turbo, very scary, I don't think the Ford will hold-up long with thatcombination.When one uses a fuel mixing device that restricts air, you will lose a lot of powerwhen you need it.If you still require A SU I will make you a good deal on my unwanted carb withmany extras plus a manual.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Hi Mr CHarlelMy experience with various carbs will give you an idea of what can be used andwhat not to use. I tried an SU, Type HD, HS, HIF with 1-1/2" in side with 1-3/8 out, If you wantthe exact No. I can get them , but the Ford ran perfect at all speeds sittingon the ground, but as I rotated off the runway the engine lost power. I havea shoe-box full of many fuel control / flow inserts. I tried all of them, to noavail, so I axed the SU.Since you have a fuel pump, as I have the Best carb I ended up with was a WeberModel 30 DIC progressive two barrel,down draft,Mounted over the manifold, thisproduced 65 HP in my Ford, and ran it a number of years.The Funk engine 63 HP with Ford B block uses a Zenith down draft and smooth curvedducts,mounted under the manifold, this is still being used on a Piet I builtin the late 80s.This is a very good combination.The Globe engine uses the Ford carb mounted backwards.Any up-draft used on lift-trucks ,also will work well.The Posa can be trouble if a shut-off is not used, started a fire with that one.I now use fuel injection with great performance 85 HP from a Ford.I have tried Turbo, very scary, I don't think the Ford will hold-up long with thatcombination.When one uses a fuel mixing device that restricts air, you will lose a lot of powerwhen you need it.If you still require A SU I will make you a good deal on my unwanted carb withmany extras plus a manual.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
I am 6'5" tall... so I too am awaiting responses to you questions. I've alreadystarted my build as I have been told that it can be custom fit to suit my stature.I hope that is the case. I'll be going to Brodhead in search of ideas,answers, suggestions. This stuff is such a challenge, but so far a lot of fun.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
I am 6'5" tall... so I too am awaiting responses to you questions. I've alreadystarted my build as I have been told that it can be custom fit to suit my stature.I hope that is the case. I'll be going to Brodhead in search of ideas,answers, suggestions. This stuff is such a challenge, but so far a lot of fun.--------MarkRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: Jeff Boatright
Mr. Emu,Rudder peddles can be mounted as far forward as you would like. removethe rudder bar,Jigsaw the top of the bulkhead slots to allow much room for your shins to clear,pad if required.A cut-out on the aft center section will allow head room and will not change theflying performance one bit.With long legs a side door isn't required.Vi Kaplar, Bernie's close friend, is 6' 3" and has been flying Piets for more yearsthan most have lived.You may need a higher wind screen, or no hair.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:15:59 -0400
Mr. Emu,Rudder peddles can be mounted as far forward as you would like. removethe rudder bar,Jigsaw the top of the bulkhead slots to allow much room for your shins to clear,pad if required.A cut-out on the aft center section will allow head room and will not change theflying performance one bit.With long legs a side door isn't required.Vi Kaplar, Bernie's close friend, is 6' 3" and has been flying Piets for more yearsthan most have lived.You may need a higher wind screen, or no hair.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:15:59 -0400
Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "Pieti Lowell"
I'm 6' 3" and don't really have trouble fitting, snug but OK The tip below about the bulkhead slots made higher would be a good sugestion. I'd advise building it to plans, and when you can get into the fuse on sawhorses, get in and see how much you have to modify.Sholdn't take long with a good old fashioned coping sawwalt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
I'm 6' 3" and don't really have trouble fitting, snug but OK The tip below about the bulkhead slots made higher would be a good sugestion. I'd advise building it to plans, and when you can get into the fuse on sawhorses, get in and see how much you have to modify.Sholdn't take long with a good old fashioned coping sawwalt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Okoume Plywood Gussets?
Original Posted By: "JohnC"
John,Just remember that Bernard Pietenpol used those round Quaker Oats boxes for the leading edge of his planes. I guess one box= one rib bay.And my Mentor tells me that the old Aeronca's (I think) used cardboard gussets on their ribs. And these were Certified Planeswalt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
John,Just remember that Bernard Pietenpol used those round Quaker Oats boxes for the leading edge of his planes. I guess one box= one rib bay.And my Mentor tells me that the old Aeronca's (I think) used cardboard gussets on their ribs. And these were Certified Planeswalt evansNX140DL----- Original Message -----
Re: Pietenpol-List: Okoume Plywood Gussets?
Original Posted By: Bill Church
RE: Pietenpol-List: Okoume Plywood Gussets?Just remember If people are wetting their leading edge ply,,,and using T-88. T-88 works just as well on wet wood. So you don't have to "wet and jig till dry"walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Okoume Plywood Gussets?Just remember If people are wetting their leading edge ply,,,and using T-88. T-88 works just as well on wet wood. So you don't have to "wet and jig till dry"walt evansNX140DL ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "old man emu"
Who has the more net worth is what the lawyers will know.I think it makes no difference who PIC is.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Who has the more net worth is what the lawyers will know.I think it makes no difference who PIC is.Pieti LowellRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ___Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "Patrick Panzera"
There are two braces which run from the floor centre to the fuselage sides. Thebulkhead in question is attached to these braces, making cutting bigger slotsfor the legs a bit difficult. What loads are those braces taking? Do they takeloads between the fuselage and rear wing attach?I figured that relocating the rudder bar would solve the leg length problem, butcan the rudder bar be made so that the pedals could be adjusted to suit peopleof various leg length?I'm afraid I can't get to Oshkosh this year, but there will be a good sized Australiancontingent attending. I'm making a list of questions for those guys toask Pietenpol owners at Oshkosh, so be prepared for a few "G'days" [Laughing]Old Man Emu--------I can't fly, but I'm telling you,I can run the pants off a kangarooRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
There are two braces which run from the floor centre to the fuselage sides. Thebulkhead in question is attached to these braces, making cutting bigger slotsfor the legs a bit difficult. What loads are those braces taking? Do they takeloads between the fuselage and rear wing attach?I figured that relocating the rudder bar would solve the leg length problem, butcan the rudder bar be made so that the pedals could be adjusted to suit peopleof various leg length?I'm afraid I can't get to Oshkosh this year, but there will be a good sized Australiancontingent attending. I'm making a list of questions for those guys toask Pietenpol owners at Oshkosh, so be prepared for a few "G'days" [Laughing]Old Man Emu--------I can't fly, but I'm telling you,I can run the pants off a kangarooRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "899PM"
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Original Posted By: gcardinal(at)comcast.net
cut 'em bigger....these holes pass size 13 sorrels with no problem.--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ______Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:54:53 +0000 (UTC)
cut 'em bigger....these holes pass size 13 sorrels with no problem.--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_ ... ______Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:54:53 +0000 (UTC)
> Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By:> rockriverrifle(at)hotmail.com
Nice work! From the scuff marks on the floorboards I'd say you've been making engine noises...LOL do not arcive> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Nice work! From the scuff marks on the floorboards I'd say you've been making engine noises...LOL do not arcive> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Pietenpol-List: Re: How does a six-footer get into a Pietenpol?
Original Posted By: "899PM"
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Original Posted By: "walt"
I got tired of the neighbors coming over and asking me to tone down the cursingwhile throttling up from the "PUCKET-A, PUCKET-A, PUCKET-A" at idle, so now Ijust go over and start the back-up generator before getting in. Much more realistic......thehourmeter on the genset says 30 hours.--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
I got tired of the neighbors coming over and asking me to tone down the cursingwhile throttling up from the "PUCKET-A, PUCKET-A, PUCKET-A" at idle, so now Ijust go over and start the back-up generator before getting in. Much more realistic......thehourmeter on the genset says 30 hours.--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________