Original Posted By:=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Aowner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
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Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
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Mark,There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento (Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com),one in Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on itsgear), and mine, near Auburn .Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome to takea drive up North and sit in mine.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTaildone, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down)
Mark,There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento (Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com),one in Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on itsgear), and mine, near Auburn .Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome to takea drive up North and sit in mine.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTaildone, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down)
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento(Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com), onein Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn .Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome totake a drive up North and sit in mine.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Mark,There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento(Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com), onein Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn .Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome totake a drive up North and sit in mine.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Probably should have posted this forum w/ same guy making turnbuckles. I believe he'll sell them, but not sure on the price. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/repli ... tmlLarRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:36:26 -0700Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Probably should have posted this forum w/ same guy making turnbuckles. I believe he'll sell them, but not sure on the price. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/repli ... tmlLarRead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... ______Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:36:26 -0700Subject: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento(Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com ), onein Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn.Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome totake a drive up North and sit in mine.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Mark,There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in Sacramento(Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com ), onein Santa Rosa (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn.Obviously, Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome totake a drive up North and sit in mine.Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Make a cockpit mockup from lumberyard stuff. You canmess with it to your hearts content very cheaply. It willtell you all you need to know. You may even have enoughscrap material already. ----- Original Message -----
Make a cockpit mockup from lumberyard stuff. You canmess with it to your hearts content very cheaply. It willtell you all you need to know. You may even have enoughscrap material already. ----- Original Message -----
Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: "Gary Boothe"
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?Mark,Although mine is far from completion, its a wide body Piet. That's right, I added some width to the fuse and now its 27 inches wide inside dimension.Thats not the hard part,adding width. The hard part comes when you go beyond the basic fuse and begin to construct the other shapes that make up the various radius components and what was a simple radius becomes a series of compound curves to create the instrument panel boards, seat backs and theever important turtle deck. One of the more challenging, non structuralcosmetic parts of my Piet.As I have heard it said, seen it written by the sage Michael Cuy, "its your airplane".Loosely and perhaps verbosely translated: the good news about the Piet is its plans build and subject to any and all reasonable and unreasonable modifications depending upon the builder. The bad new is you can modify it to your hearts content. You just have to be ready to pay the penalties of creativity and experimentation. There again; "Its your airplane", so enjoy the adventure. It took the words of another wise and not too old sage, my 24 year old college student son, to remind me that the process is more about the journey than the destination so enjoy it. You'll be a sawdust junkie in no time for which your spouse or significant other if not a supporter, will have little toleration and much disdain for your newly developed ambitions and a lovefor your newly developed wood working skills. Its all about compromises and trade offs, hmmm is that what powered flightis all about?John**************Discover the variety of Bisquick=AE mix. Get Recipes & Savings 0126575x1222831871x1201491818/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225813%3B37274670%3Be%3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.bisquick.bettycrocker.com%3FESRC%3D971)________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?Mark,Although mine is far from completion, its a wide body Piet. That's right, I added some width to the fuse and now its 27 inches wide inside dimension.Thats not the hard part,adding width. The hard part comes when you go beyond the basic fuse and begin to construct the other shapes that make up the various radius components and what was a simple radius becomes a series of compound curves to create the instrument panel boards, seat backs and theever important turtle deck. One of the more challenging, non structuralcosmetic parts of my Piet.As I have heard it said, seen it written by the sage Michael Cuy, "its your airplane".Loosely and perhaps verbosely translated: the good news about the Piet is its plans build and subject to any and all reasonable and unreasonable modifications depending upon the builder. The bad new is you can modify it to your hearts content. You just have to be ready to pay the penalties of creativity and experimentation. There again; "Its your airplane", so enjoy the adventure. It took the words of another wise and not too old sage, my 24 year old college student son, to remind me that the process is more about the journey than the destination so enjoy it. You'll be a sawdust junkie in no time for which your spouse or significant other if not a supporter, will have little toleration and much disdain for your newly developed ambitions and a lovefor your newly developed wood working skills. Its all about compromises and trade offs, hmmm is that what powered flightis all about?John**************Discover the variety of Bisquick=AE mix. Get Recipes & Savings 0126575x1222831871x1201491818/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215225813%3B37274670%3Be%3Fhttp:%2F%2Frecipes.bisquick.bettycrocker.com%3FESRC%3D971)________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,This is where I am at, after just one year (and the tail was built first). Itravel 3-4 days a week, so only get to work on weekends, plus I havelandscaped the front yard and remodeled 2 rooms.point is: If you're anykind of Wood Butcher, your project will progress quickly. So far I haveabout 340 hours in mine. The wood is all Poplar, locally purchased, at afraction of the price of AC Spruce.Mine is not wider, but I did make it 1" deeper than the plans (I wanted tosit lower in the fuse). Many builders alter the cockpits to suit themselves,including adjusting the instrument panel forward, or building the seat backto recline more. I hope to see you, or hear of your progress. Don't forget to check out ChrisTracy's web sight, www.westcoastpiet.com . Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Mark,This is where I am at, after just one year (and the tail was built first). Itravel 3-4 days a week, so only get to work on weekends, plus I havelandscaped the front yard and remodeled 2 rooms.point is: If you're anykind of Wood Butcher, your project will progress quickly. So far I haveabout 340 hours in mine. The wood is all Poplar, locally purchased, at afraction of the price of AC Spruce.Mine is not wider, but I did make it 1" deeper than the plans (I wanted tosit lower in the fuse). Many builders alter the cockpits to suit themselves,including adjusting the instrument panel forward, or building the seat backto recline more. I hope to see you, or hear of your progress. Don't forget to check out ChrisTracy's web sight, www.westcoastpiet.com . Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Pietenpol-List: Re: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: "Ed G."
Mark,Please e-mail me (mike_cushway "at" trekbikes "dot" com. concerning the Jr Aceplans.--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
Mark,Please e-mail me (mike_cushway "at" trekbikes "dot" com. concerning the Jr Aceplans.--------PAPA MIKERead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.p ... __________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: gboothe5(at)comcast.net
Nice job Gary...Looks great..I like the turtle deck mods=2C they are very similar to mine. Ed Grentzer Fl.
Nice job Gary...Looks great..I like the turtle deck mods=2C they are very similar to mine. Ed Grentzer Fl.
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By:> Gary Boothe
Hey Mike! Did you enjoy the thunder and lightning show last night? We sat on the microsized front lawn an watched it until the rain started. Not used to thunderstorms here. Reminded me of North Carolina...I am often thru the Tulare area as I work with a medical company that works with the hospital there.I'm excited someone 'local' (ok, and hour and fifteen minutes away) is building one! I hope to get my plans soon and I'll be looking for wood. I am looking into other options than spruce, as I am not flush with money! Gary said something about poplar, and I know fir is an options as well.I look forward to chatting with you sometime by phone. Thanks for touching base!Mark Roberts559.917.5904On May 28, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Michael Groah wrote:> Hello Mark. This is Mike Groah and I'm building in Tulare as Gary > mentioned so I'm just down the street. You're more than welcome to > come see my project or contact me with any questions. I'll try my > best to show you what I've done and others on this list can fill in > the gaps or show you other ways to do it.> There is also another gentleman named Jorge who is building a piet > in Hanford (he follows this list as well) and there is a flying > piet (short fuse A65) that is based at the Woodlake airport. I can > put you in touch with them also if you so desire.>> Mike Groah> Tulare CA> dskogrover(at)yahoo.com> 559 684 8781>> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Gary Boothe wrote:>
Hey Mike! Did you enjoy the thunder and lightning show last night? We sat on the microsized front lawn an watched it until the rain started. Not used to thunderstorms here. Reminded me of North Carolina...I am often thru the Tulare area as I work with a medical company that works with the hospital there.I'm excited someone 'local' (ok, and hour and fifteen minutes away) is building one! I hope to get my plans soon and I'll be looking for wood. I am looking into other options than spruce, as I am not flush with money! Gary said something about poplar, and I know fir is an options as well.I look forward to chatting with you sometime by phone. Thanks for touching base!Mark Roberts559.917.5904On May 28, 2009, at 11:59 PM, Michael Groah wrote:> Hello Mark. This is Mike Groah and I'm building in Tulare as Gary > mentioned so I'm just down the street. You're more than welcome to > come see my project or contact me with any questions. I'll try my > best to show you what I've done and others on this list can fill in > the gaps or show you other ways to do it.> There is also another gentleman named Jorge who is building a piet > in Hanford (he follows this list as well) and there is a flying > piet (short fuse A65) that is based at the Woodlake airport. I can > put you in touch with them also if you so desire.>> Mike Groah> Tulare CA> dskogrover(at)yahoo.com> 559 684 8781>> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Gary Boothe wrote:>
> Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Jim
Pietenpol-List: Alternative Woods
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Mark,Since you are looking at alternatives, here is a page out of AC43.13 (goodto have on the shelf).Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
Mark,Since you are looking at alternatives, here is a page out of AC43.13 (goodto have on the shelf).Gary BootheCool, Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done, Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down.) _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Rick Holland
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Darrel Jones
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Seat back angle
Original Posted By: "Bill Church"
Bill,you need to consider your shoulder and head weight as I think that is a key factor as to how much the CG will move rearward. I'm 6'-1" 165# with not a lot of brains in my head or mass in my shoulders so moving the top of the seat back should not change my CG much. I sunk the rear seat down as far as I could and moved the top of it back 1-inch. I changed the diagonal brace to match the new angle. I also raised the turtledeck to the top of my shoulders for seatbelts. Seems comfortable enough for me. If I were to do it again I might make the fuselage slightly deeper so my body fits inside a little more.ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com----- Original Message -----
Bill,you need to consider your shoulder and head weight as I think that is a key factor as to how much the CG will move rearward. I'm 6'-1" 165# with not a lot of brains in my head or mass in my shoulders so moving the top of the seat back should not change my CG much. I sunk the rear seat down as far as I could and moved the top of it back 1-inch. I changed the diagonal brace to match the new angle. I also raised the turtledeck to the top of my shoulders for seatbelts. Seems comfortable enough for me. If I were to do it again I might make the fuselage slightly deeper so my body fits inside a little more.ChrisSacramento, CAWestCoastPiet.com----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
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RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any other airplanebecomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is an easy 45minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. I flew my Pietfrom Raleigh to Dulles International Airport near Washington last summer, atrip that would have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it tookover 4 hours of flying and two fuel stops. Think about that when you arethinking of cockpit comfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. Iremember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked "We've beenflying for over a minute and haven't reached the end of the runway yet". Itold her "It's a 6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Mine hasa slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leather upholstery overtemperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit in it for more thanabout 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuel on board), and I tryto limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and a half, primarilyfor comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice from North Carolina toBrodhead, and will do it again next month. It's not very comfortable, butthere is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any other airplanebecomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is an easy 45minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. I flew my Pietfrom Raleigh to Dulles International Airport near Washington last summer, atrip that would have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it tookover 4 hours of flying and two fuel stops. Think about that when you arethinking of cockpit comfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. Iremember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked "We've beenflying for over a minute and haven't reached the end of the runway yet". Itold her "It's a 6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Mine hasa slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leather upholstery overtemperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit in it for more thanabout 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuel on board), and I tryto limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and a half, primarilyfor comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice from North Carolina toBrodhead, and will do it again next month. It's not very comfortable, butthere is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any otherairplane becomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is aneasy 45 minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. Iflew my Piet from Raleigh to Dulles International Airport nearWashington last summer, a trip that would have been an hour and 20minutes in the RV-4, and it took over 4 hours of flying and two fuelstops. Think about that when you are thinking of cockpit comfort.There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. I remember the first time Itook my wife up in it, she remarked "We've been flying for over a minuteand haven't reached the end of the runway yet". I told her "It's a6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Minehas a slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leatherupholstery over temperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit init for more than about 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuelon board), and I try to limit cross country legs to no more than an hourand a half, primarily for comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice fromNorth Carolina to Brodhead, and will do it again next month. It's notvery comfortable, but there is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC________________________________
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any otherairplane becomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is aneasy 45 minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. Iflew my Piet from Raleigh to Dulles International Airport nearWashington last summer, a trip that would have been an hour and 20minutes in the RV-4, and it took over 4 hours of flying and two fuelstops. Think about that when you are thinking of cockpit comfort.There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. I remember the first time Itook my wife up in it, she remarked "We've been flying for over a minuteand haven't reached the end of the runway yet". I told her "It's a6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Minehas a slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leatherupholstery over temperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit init for more than about 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuelon board), and I try to limit cross country legs to no more than an hourand a half, primarily for comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice fromNorth Carolina to Brodhead, and will do it again next month. It's notvery comfortable, but there is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any other airplanebecomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is an easy 45minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. I flew my Pietfrom Raleigh to Dulles International Airport near Washington last summer, atrip that would have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it tookover 4 hours of flying and two fuel stops. Think about that when you arethinking of cockpit comfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. Iremember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked "We've beenflying for over a minute and haven't reached the end of the runway yet". Itold her "It's a 6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Mine hasa slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leather upholstery overtemperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit in it for more thanabout 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuel on board), and I tryto limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and a half, primarilyfor comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice from North Carolina toBrodhead, and will do it again next month. It's not very comfortable, butthere is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any other airplanebecomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is an easy 45minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. I flew my Pietfrom Raleigh to Dulles International Airport near Washington last summer, atrip that would have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it tookover 4 hours of flying and two fuel stops. Think about that when you arethinking of cockpit comfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. Iremember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked "We've beenflying for over a minute and haven't reached the end of the runway yet". Itold her "It's a 6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Mine hasa slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leather upholstery overtemperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit in it for more thanabout 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuel on board), and I tryto limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and a half, primarilyfor comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice from North Carolina toBrodhead, and will do it again next month. It's not very comfortable, butthere is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: John Fay
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Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: First trip to 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________________________________________________________________________________Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:19:27 -0500Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: "Dave Abramson"
Thanks for the advice! What you suggested makes very good sence to me. At 6'4", ANY additional room is equivalent to more comfort. And moving the firewall forward sounds like a great idea. Any additional info on storage for small amounts I luggage would be great.I don't plan to do much long range flying, as quick weekend hops to romantic getaways is my ultimate goal, but I have long wondered about room for a small bundle of clothes and some toiletries. My wife will be most likely to want to go somewhere if she can pack more than a toothbrush, so any info in that from anyone would be really interesting to me. I have actually written a script and a show sequence for a travel show I hope to produce on weekend geyways with a light sport plane. "Weekend Wings" would spotlight little romantic getaway locations just an hour to an hour and a half away from major markets. My first episode is written (Columbia California, a trip back in time to a Gold Rush era town just as it was in the 1850's) and waiting for production capital which has all but dried up. Another scripted show is the production of "Get your wings" which centers around the selection and building of your own LSA.... Himmmm, any guesses as to which one? I just have to work the logistics on what to actually shoot during the build... So much time is head scratching and thinking, and then the cutting begins...I like the fact that a basic design can be customized so much, but I am also aware that the closer you can build to the original plans, the less chance you have as a newbie to screw something up.Thanks again for the thoughts! I am indeed hungry for ideas...Mark Roberts559.917.5904On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:19 AM, John Fay wrote:> If you want to widen the fuselage, one option, almost never > mentioned, is just to maintain the full fuselage width until you > reach the back of the pilot's seat. On the original plans, the > fuselage begins to narrow about where your knees are, so at your > shoulders it is about two inches narrower already (22 inches outside > width, and down to only 20 inches inside the longerons). When I > first started to build, I asked Vi Kaplar about this, and he said it > should be fine. I have built a mock-up, and the pilot's cockpit > seems plenty roomy to me. I am only 5' 10", but I did weigh 250 > lbs., but now down to 220. We have also moved the top of the > pilot's seat back, to improve the angle and make it more > comfortable. I got the angles from my most comfortable car (my '86 > Pontiac Parisienne).>> We are building to the long fuselage plans. But since the engine > needs to go forward to keep the correct W & B, what we have done is > move the firewall forward 4 inches.> This gives much more legroom in the front cockpit, and more room for > the luggage compartment we are building above the passenger's legs.> We will have the fuel in the wing.>> John Fay> in Peoria>>________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks for the advice! What you suggested makes very good sence to me. At 6'4", ANY additional room is equivalent to more comfort. And moving the firewall forward sounds like a great idea. Any additional info on storage for small amounts I luggage would be great.I don't plan to do much long range flying, as quick weekend hops to romantic getaways is my ultimate goal, but I have long wondered about room for a small bundle of clothes and some toiletries. My wife will be most likely to want to go somewhere if she can pack more than a toothbrush, so any info in that from anyone would be really interesting to me. I have actually written a script and a show sequence for a travel show I hope to produce on weekend geyways with a light sport plane. "Weekend Wings" would spotlight little romantic getaway locations just an hour to an hour and a half away from major markets. My first episode is written (Columbia California, a trip back in time to a Gold Rush era town just as it was in the 1850's) and waiting for production capital which has all but dried up. Another scripted show is the production of "Get your wings" which centers around the selection and building of your own LSA.... Himmmm, any guesses as to which one? I just have to work the logistics on what to actually shoot during the build... So much time is head scratching and thinking, and then the cutting begins...I like the fact that a basic design can be customized so much, but I am also aware that the closer you can build to the original plans, the less chance you have as a newbie to screw something up.Thanks again for the thoughts! I am indeed hungry for ideas...Mark Roberts559.917.5904On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:19 AM, John Fay wrote:> If you want to widen the fuselage, one option, almost never > mentioned, is just to maintain the full fuselage width until you > reach the back of the pilot's seat. On the original plans, the > fuselage begins to narrow about where your knees are, so at your > shoulders it is about two inches narrower already (22 inches outside > width, and down to only 20 inches inside the longerons). When I > first started to build, I asked Vi Kaplar about this, and he said it > should be fine. I have built a mock-up, and the pilot's cockpit > seems plenty roomy to me. I am only 5' 10", but I did weigh 250 > lbs., but now down to 220. We have also moved the top of the > pilot's seat back, to improve the angle and make it more > comfortable. I got the angles from my most comfortable car (my '86 > Pontiac Parisienne).>> We are building to the long fuselage plans. But since the engine > needs to go forward to keep the correct W & B, what we have done is > move the firewall forward 4 inches.> This gives much more legroom in the front cockpit, and more room for > the luggage compartment we are building above the passenger's legs.> We will have the fuel in the wing.>> John Fay> in Peoria>>________________________________________________________________________________
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Hey MARK!I am building at Santa Maria Airport.... Have the Fuse on the gear. Taildone.I am 6'2 so I moved the panel a bit forward, and took out the front seatcompletely! Moved the rudder bar forward, and the rest will be storage upthere.I did not like my face so close to the panel.......Cheers,Dave -----Original Message-----
Hey MARK!I am building at Santa Maria Airport.... Have the Fuse on the gear. Taildone.I am 6'2 so I moved the panel a bit forward, and took out the front seatcompletely! Moved the rudder bar forward, and the rest will be storage upthere.I did not like my face so close to the panel.......Cheers,Dave -----Original Message-----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any other airplanebecomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is an easy 45minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. I flew my Pietfrom Raleigh to Dulles International Airport near Washington last summer, atrip that would have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it tookover 4 hours of flying and two fuel stops. Think about that when you arethinking of cockpit comfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. Iremember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked "We've beenflying for over a minute and haven't reached the end of the runway yet". Itold her "It's a 6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Mine hasa slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leather upholstery overtemperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit in it for more thanabout 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuel on board), and I tryto limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and a half, primarilyfor comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice from North Carolina toBrodhead, and will do it again next month. It's not very comfortable, butthere is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Just remember that what would be a "quick weekend hop" in any other airplanebecomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip that is an easy 45minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a Pietenpol. I flew my Pietfrom Raleigh to Dulles International Airport near Washington last summer, atrip that would have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it tookover 4 hours of flying and two fuel stops. Think about that when you arethinking of cockpit comfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. Iremember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked "We've beenflying for over a minute and haven't reached the end of the runway yet". Itold her "It's a 6,000 foot runway and we're doing 50 mph. Do the math."My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. Mine hasa slightly wider fuselage (1" wider than plans) and leather upholstery overtemperfoam padded seats. I still can't stand to sit in it for more thanabout 2 hours at a time (I've got nearly 4 hours fuel on board), and I tryto limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and a half, primarilyfor comfort's sake. I have flown mine twice from North Carolina toBrodhead, and will do it again next month. It's not very comfortable, butthere is nothing that is more fun.Jack PhillipsNX899JPRaleigh, NC _____
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I can see your point. I remember the statement "the mind can only absorb what the seat can endure...". Same with flying....I went to high school at Apex High right outside of Cary. Small world. I was in the Civil Air Patrol in Raleigh, and my mom still lives in Fayetteville. May have to visit sometime and see your plane :-)MarkMark Roberts559.917.5904On Jun 2, 2009, at 10:25 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> Just remember that what would be a =9Cquick weekend hop=9D in any > other airplane becomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip t > hat is an easy 45 minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a > Pietenpol. I flew my Piet from Raleigh to Dulles International Airp > ort near Washington last summer, a trip that would have been an hour > and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it took over 4 hours of flying and > two fuel stops. Think about that when you are thinking of cockpit c > omfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. I remember the fi > rst time I took my wife up in it, she remarked =9CWe=99ve been flying > for over a minute and haven=99t reached the end of the runway > yet=9D. I told her =9CIt=99s a 6,000 foot runway and we=99re doing > 50 mph. Do the math.=9D>>> My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. > Mine has a slightly wider fuselage (1=9D wider than plans) and leather > upholstery over temperfoam padded seats. I still can=99t stand to si > t in it for more than about 2 hours at a time (I=99ve got nearly 4 hou > rs fuel on board), and I try to limit cross country legs to no more > than an hour and a half, primarily for comfort=99s sake. I have flown > mine twice from North Carolina to Brodhead, and will do it again ne > xt month. It=99s not very comfortable, but there is nothing that is m > ore fun.>>> Jack Phillips>> NX899JP>> Raleigh, NC>>
I can see your point. I remember the statement "the mind can only absorb what the seat can endure...". Same with flying....I went to high school at Apex High right outside of Cary. Small world. I was in the Civil Air Patrol in Raleigh, and my mom still lives in Fayetteville. May have to visit sometime and see your plane :-)MarkMark Roberts559.917.5904On Jun 2, 2009, at 10:25 AM, "Jack Phillips" wrote:> Just remember that what would be a =9Cquick weekend hop=9D in any > other airplane becomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol. A trip t > hat is an easy 45 minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a > Pietenpol. I flew my Piet from Raleigh to Dulles International Airp > ort near Washington last summer, a trip that would have been an hour > and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it took over 4 hours of flying and > two fuel stops. Think about that when you are thinking of cockpit c > omfort. There are no short trips on a Pietenpol. I remember the fi > rst time I took my wife up in it, she remarked =9CWe=99ve been flying > for over a minute and haven=99t reached the end of the runway > yet=9D. I told her =9CIt=99s a 6,000 foot runway and we=99re doing > 50 mph. Do the math.=9D>>> My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within reason. > Mine has a slightly wider fuselage (1=9D wider than plans) and leather > upholstery over temperfoam padded seats. I still can=99t stand to si > t in it for more than about 2 hours at a time (I=99ve got nearly 4 hou > rs fuel on board), and I try to limit cross country legs to no more > than an hour and a half, primarily for comfort=99s sake. I have flown > mine twice from North Carolina to Brodhead, and will do it again ne > xt month. It=99s not very comfortable, but there is nothing that is m > ore fun.>>> Jack Phillips>> NX899JP>> Raleigh, NC>>
> Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Michael Groah
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Well, that might be difficult - the Pietenpol is now in my hangar at SmithMountain Lake, Virginia (W91). I still keep my RV-4 at Cox Field, in Apex.Jack PhillipsNX899JP _____
Well, that might be difficult - the Pietenpol is now in my hangar at SmithMountain Lake, Virginia (W91). I still keep my RV-4 at Cox Field, in Apex.Jack PhillipsNX899JP _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
I can try. Nearly every time I try to post a picture, it never shows up.The cushions are 1" firm Temperfoam under 1" of medium Temperfoam, coveredwith leather. I bought an entire cowhide from Dan Brown of B&B AircraftSupply at Oshkosh several years ago for $100 - it was enough to do bothseats and both cockpit coamings. _____
I can try. Nearly every time I try to post a picture, it never shows up.The cushions are 1" firm Temperfoam under 1" of medium Temperfoam, coveredwith leather. I bought an entire cowhide from Dan Brown of B&B AircraftSupply at Oshkosh several years ago for $100 - it was enough to do bothseats and both cockpit coamings. _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
Jack,Could you enlighten us on the gadgets and knob on the left side of yourseat? Thanks.BrianSLC, UT
Jack,Could you enlighten us on the gadgets and knob on the left side of yourseat? Thanks.BrianSLC, UT
Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
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RE: Pietenpol-List: 80th Anniversary Fly-in
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Re: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: Jack Phillips
For my leather, I bought a large full length womans leather coat from Good Will for $3.00. There was enough there for all my needs.Worked for me.Gene ----- Original Message -----
For my leather, I bought a large full length womans leather coat from Good Will for $3.00. There was enough there for all my needs.Worked for me.Gene ----- Original Message -----
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
The one on the seat is the lever to operate the trim mechanism. The twoports on the lower part of the seat back are for the headset jacks, and theswitches near the top of the seatback are the remote switches for the ELT.Jack PhillipsNX899JP _____
The one on the seat is the lever to operate the trim mechanism. The twoports on the lower part of the seat back are for the headset jacks, and theswitches near the top of the seatback are the remote switches for the ELT.Jack PhillipsNX899JP _____
RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By: owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
Mark=2CThis is where I am at=2C after just one year (and the tail was built first). I travel 3-4 days a week=2C so only get to work on weekends=2C plus I have landscaped the front yard and remodeled 2 rooms=85point is: If you=92re any kind of Wood Butcher=2C your project will progress quickly. So far I have about 340 hours in mine. The wood is all Poplar=2C locally purchased=2C at a fraction of the price of AC Spruce.Mine is not wider=2C but I did make it 1=94 deeper than the plans (I wanted to sit lower in the fuse). Many builders alter the cockpits to suit themselves=2C including adjusting the instrument panel forward=2C or building the seat back to recline more. I hope to see you=2C or hear of your progress. Don=92t forget to check out Chris Tracy=92s web sight=2C www.westcoastpiet.com. Gary BootheCool=2C Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done=2C Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down=85)
Mark=2CThis is where I am at=2C after just one year (and the tail was built first). I travel 3-4 days a week=2C so only get to work on weekends=2C plus I have landscaped the front yard and remodeled 2 rooms=85point is: If you=92re any kind of Wood Butcher=2C your project will progress quickly. So far I have about 340 hours in mine. The wood is all Poplar=2C locally purchased=2C at a fraction of the price of AC Spruce.Mine is not wider=2C but I did make it 1=94 deeper than the plans (I wanted to sit lower in the fuse). Many builders alter the cockpits to suit themselves=2C including adjusting the instrument panel forward=2C or building the seat back to recline more. I hope to see you=2C or hear of your progress. Don=92t forget to check out Chris Tracy=92s web sight=2C www.westcoastpiet.com. Gary BootheCool=2C Ca.PietenpolWW Corvair ConversionTail done=2C Fuselage on gear(13 ribs down=85)
> RE: Pietenpol-List: Anyone building near Fresno/Clovis CA?
Original Posted By:> owner-pietenpol-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> Mark,>>> There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in > Sacramento (Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com), one in Santa Rosa > (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn . Obviously, > Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome to take > a drive up North and sit in mine.>>> Gary Boothe> Cool, Ca.> Pietenpol> WW Corvair Conversion> Tail done, Fuselage on gear> (13 ribs down)
>> Mark,>>> There is one in Tulare (Mike Groah, almost on its gear), one in > Sacramento (Chris Tracy, www.westcoastpiet.com), one in Santa Rosa > (Jim Boyer, almost on its gear), and mine, near Auburn . Obviously, > Mike is closest and monitors this list, but you are welcome to take > a drive up North and sit in mine.>>> Gary Boothe> Cool, Ca.> Pietenpol> WW Corvair Conversion> Tail done, Fuselage on gear> (13 ribs down)
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t what would be a =9Cquick weekend hop=9D in any=0A other airplane becomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol.=C2- A trip that=0A is an easy 45 minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a=0A Pietenpol.=C2- I flew my Piet from Raleigh =0A to Dulles International =0A Airport near=0A Washington last summer, a trip that would=0A have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it took over 4 hours of=0A flying and two fuel stops.=C2- Think about that when you are thinking of=0A cockpit comfort.=C2- There are no short trips on a Pietenpol.=C2- I=0A remember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked =9CWe=99ve been=0A flying for over a minute and haven=99t reached the end of the runway=0A yet=9D.=C2- I told her =C2-=9CIt=99s a 6,000 foot runway and we=99re doing 50=0A mph. Do the math.=9D =0A =C2- =0A My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within=0A reason.=C2- Mine has a slightly wider fuselage (1=9D wider than plans) and=0A leather upholstery over temperfoam padded seats.=C2- I still can=99t stand to=0A sit in it for more than about 2 hours at a time (I=99ve got nearly 4 hours fuel=0A on board), and I try to limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and=0A a half, primarily for comfort=99s sake.=C2- I have flown mine twice from=0A North Carolina to=0A Brodhead, and will do it again next month.=C2- It=99s not very comfortable,=0A but there is nothing that is more fun. =0A =C2- =0A =0AJack Phillips =0A NX899JP =0A =0ARaleigh, NC =0A =C2- =0A =0A
t what would be a =9Cquick weekend hop=9D in any=0A other airplane becomes a test of endurance in a Pietenpol.=C2- A trip that=0A is an easy 45 minute hop in my RV-4 takes close to 2 hours in a=0A Pietenpol.=C2- I flew my Piet from Raleigh =0A to Dulles International =0A Airport near=0A Washington last summer, a trip that would=0A have been an hour and 20 minutes in the RV-4, and it took over 4 hours of=0A flying and two fuel stops.=C2- Think about that when you are thinking of=0A cockpit comfort.=C2- There are no short trips on a Pietenpol.=C2- I=0A remember the first time I took my wife up in it, she remarked =9CWe=99ve been=0A flying for over a minute and haven=99t reached the end of the runway=0A yet=9D.=C2- I told her =C2-=9CIt=99s a 6,000 foot runway and we=99re doing 50=0A mph. Do the math.=9D =0A =C2- =0A My advice is to make it as comfortable as you can, within=0A reason.=C2- Mine has a slightly wider fuselage (1=9D wider than plans) and=0A leather upholstery over temperfoam padded seats.=C2- I still can=99t stand to=0A sit in it for more than about 2 hours at a time (I=99ve got nearly 4 hours fuel=0A on board), and I try to limit cross country legs to no more than an hour and=0A a half, primarily for comfort=99s sake.=C2- I have flown mine twice from=0A North Carolina to=0A Brodhead, and will do it again next month.=C2- It=99s not very comfortable,=0A but there is nothing that is more fun. =0A =C2- =0A =0AJack Phillips =0A NX899JP =0A =0ARaleigh, NC =0A =C2- =0A =0A